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 tokinman21
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 Time Dilation in a Sober Mindstate
#15808426 - 02/14/12 01:23 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Now, clearly one's perception of time is constantly shifting and there is no "true" speed at which one experiences life. Something happened recently that sparked some thought that makes me really wonder just how MUCH your perception of time is shifting at any given point in time.
I was waiting for a text, and my phone has a little green light in the top/right that flashes when there is an unread message. The light flashes at a constant speed. I looked to see if I had a text and waited for long enough that it should have flashed at least 2-3 times before concluding that I had no messages...then, just as I was looking away, it flashed. The first flash was also held quite a bit longer than it should have been, and then all of a sudden everything snapped together and it was flashing at its normal speed. I had received the text several minutes before that, which meant that my phone had been constantly flashing the entire time. I felt completely normal, I didn't feel like anything funny was going on, yet the first pause and first flash I witnessed felt SIGNIFICANTLY longer than the rest. What that means, is that my brain significantly dilated my perception of time, and it did it so seemlessly I didn't even notice.
What does that say about what we consider to be our "normal" level of processing? How sure can we truly be of anything we witness, when our minds have the ability to change the way we experience things in such a fluid manner?
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Re: Time Dilation in a Sober Mindstate [Re: tokinman21]
#15808477 - 02/14/12 01:37 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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I believe i read that it takes our mind .8 seconds to process everything. So were behind a little.
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Re: Time Dilation in a Sober Mindstate [Re: King Klick]
#15808529 - 02/14/12 01:49 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Maybe your phone was experiencing time dilation... Jk time goes slow when you have a text.
Edit: Wow, I hate iPhone auto correct. It wrote home instead of phone, I fixed it.
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Edited by Phenom (02/14/12 02:25 PM)
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 drr
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Re: Time Dilation in a Sober Mindstate [Re: Phenom]
#15808642 - 02/14/12 02:15 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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I've had similar experiences, like looking at a timer or clock that is showing the second, and it seems to hang on one second forever. I think it many cases it could really be an error on the part of the device that catches our attention. Like your cell phone...they are glitchy sometimes, I will receive a text message that says I should have received it a half hour ago, sometimes. Or a clock, especially an analog one with a second hand that moves once per second, I think could be imperfect, and I've just happened to glance over right when it's hanging on a second too long.
I'd probably just assume it is the phone that is weird, not me.
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Re: Time Dilation in a Sober Mindstate [Re: drr]
#15808993 - 02/14/12 03:31 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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drr said:
I've had similar experiences, like looking at a timer or clock that is showing the second, and it seems to hang on one second forever. I think it many cases it could really be an error on the part of the device that catches our attention. Like your cell phone...they are glitchy sometimes, I will receive a text message that says I should have received it a half hour ago, sometimes. Or a clock, especially an analog one with a second hand that moves once per second, I think could be imperfect, and I've just happened to glance over right when it's hanging on a second too long.
I'd probably just assume it is the phone that is weird, not me.
Well sure, I'd say that's probably our natural inclination, but when you think about it that's only because we have always assumed that's the case. We have no reason to believe that our brains don't slow time down a little bit sometimes. If it can do it on a trip, or in an extremely dangerous life or death situation, why couldn't it be doing it when you're sober and in suspense for something? In all honesty, what is more likely...that my brain dilated time, or that a highly consistent light flashing on my phone faltered at the exact moment I looked at it? Unless you're going with a spiritual explanation for that, but that's a whole different conversation. 
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Re: Time Dilation in a Sober Mindstate [Re: tokinman21]
#15811895 - 02/15/12 01:32 AM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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sure the phone can go glitchy, and may fail to indicate an event for a while during which time it is updating other internal routines.
I imagine that you did time dilate, phlange out or wow, which makes me wonder if you truly did not also have some other cute things happening to you (like tracers or trails).
concentration can certainly change your state of mind, in a similar way that emotion and psychedlelics can and that is primarily a time effect.
the time effect is precisely making moments fade out more and more slowly, so that they tend to overlap.
when moments do overlap, it seems like time dilates, and not only does color get richer, but if you move your vision a bit you get doubled and shpongled vision.
And, you can trip out sideways into some particular buffered moment or aspect (creating a branch of layered moments) -
you may emerge later to find yourself deeper in the main stack (time standing still) or popping the stack (deja vu).
You can be sober quickly if a layered state of mind is triggered by concentration or emotion, and the layers can return quickly to normal (back to more quickly fading moments 1/15th of a second) without any after effects except astonishment.
this is unlikely to occur during driving because there are so many things you have to be aware of, but it is very likely to occur if you are watching a candle or a tiny light on a phone.
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Re: Time Dilation in a Sober Mindstate [Re: drr]
#15812038 - 02/15/12 02:40 AM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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drr said:
I think it many cases it could really be an error on the part of the device that catches our attention.
Be more interesting if something thrown or dropped slowed down in the air or something like that.
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Re: Time Dilation in a Sober Mindstate [Re: OnePerEyeM8]
#15812866 - 02/15/12 09:23 AM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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OnePerEyeM8 said:
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drr said:
I think it many cases it could really be an error on the part of the device that catches our attention.
Be more interesting if something thrown or dropped slowed down in the air or something like that.
It seems less likely then though, because you're trying to track such a quick movement. It probably takes a lot more concentration. But the odds of that particular part of my phone malfunctioning at the exact moment I look at it are probably rather low.
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Re: Time Dilation in a Sober Mindstate [Re: tokinman21]
#15812912 - 02/15/12 09:37 AM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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In fight or flight situations the experience of time slows while your thoughts quicken, anxiety and excitement are also triggers, and many successful people know how to use their anxiety in such ways as to harness this boost. You can do lots of shit with meditation, a focus on the moment could probably help to harness it.
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Re: Time Dilation in a Sober Mindstate [Re: sk8ordude]
#15812972 - 02/15/12 09:51 AM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Yea.. what is time? Ok.. check this out.. One day, I took some shrooms with a friend of mine and my other friend's were drinking and smoking weed. The stuff was wearing off so we decided to walk to a seven eleven. We walked for about a quarter mile just talking and having a good time you know.. Then we had to make a left towards seven eleven. We saw that it looked far and we were like "oh man, that shit's far, should we turn back?" Well we did turn back. The thing with this was that when we weren't able to see the seven eleven store when we were talking, time didn't matter. We were just having a good time and time "seem" to go fast but when we made a left and saw that seven eleven "looked" far but in reality was another quarter mile away, we gave up because our mind saw the distance and our minds predisposed to the idea that it was too far and not worth it. So I think that if our mind measures the distance with our vision, we get bored and the journey can seem to last a long time when we're not having fun. When we can't see the destination, there is not expectation of what it feels like to walk a quarter mile; therefore, time seems to go relatively faster when knowing the distance. I'm not sure if this helps, but there seems to be something with being bored and having fun when time seems to sped up or slow down. Ogh and this has nothing to do with shrooms. I just noticed it more clearly while I was on it.
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