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 Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ?
#15808946 - 02/14/12 03:25 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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I would like to know if theres anyone here doing it that way?
I only use them in this way, and for learning right now
Would like to hear from you and of your experiences with healing and the shrooms. 
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 Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: rikuni]
#15809029 - 02/14/12 03:38 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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I use them to escape the hell that is normal reality
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: EvolveShrooms]
#15809213 - 02/14/12 04:12 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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no, thats not what i meant
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: rikuni]
#15809303 - 02/14/12 04:26 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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'shamanic way' isn't some kinky way of taking them, is it??? :-)
I have used them for emotional healing and spiritual exploration...
Many people do, even if they don't know it when they start... Those who have taken high doses
Not sure exactly the question though?
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: HarryL]
#15809323 - 02/14/12 04:30 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Can't it be both? I can truly say that the personal benefits from psychedelics have been profound, and at the same time, its a hella fun time too
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: HarryL]
#15809357 - 02/14/12 04:36 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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'shamanic way' isn't some kinky way of taking them, is it??? :-)
I have used them for emotional healing and spiritual exploration...
Many people do, even if they don't know it when they start... Those who have taken high doses
Not sure exactly the question though?
He's referring to people using them specifically for shamanism purposes. The shamanism movement seems to be growing, and I checked it out a little bit, but I'm not sure I identify with it. I have certainly incorporated some of the ideas from the workshops I attended into my mental-health regimant, I suppose, but I wouldn't say I explore "shamanistically" (if that is a word).
Yes though, I would say that is one aspect of my psychedelic use...sort of. It's just sort of one aspect of my life in general, so I guess that is reflected in my use of psychedelics as well.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: EvolveShrooms]
#15809365 - 02/14/12 04:38 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Nothing says the road to paradise can't be traveled as a joy ride
I am with you... Many of my more deeply moving experience were also fun and exciting
Have I been healed... Yes and changed
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: EvolveShrooms]
#15809376 - 02/14/12 04:39 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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I've definitely used them as a tool for healing and self exploration. A lot of my trips were solely for this purpose, but a lot of my other trips were just to have a good time.
Some of my best trips were the ones of self exploration and have given me so much inspiration in return that I used in my personal life. It is because of using mushrooms in a shamanic manor that I have run the NYC Marathon and I also climbed Mt Kilimanjaro last year. These were both mind enhancing experiences themselves, but mushrooms helped me to realise my potential, and they also made me realise what I want to get from life..
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: HarryL]
#15809416 - 02/14/12 04:49 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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I think balancing the fun and spiritualistic sides is the ideal approach. The insight will come, there's no hiding from it. If you're not having fun along the way then you're missing something.
I'm not exactly sure in what way you're using the word 'shamanic' here (could you elaborate?), but there's no need to be a spiritual hard ass about it. I just solo tripped for the first time and that was an extremely introspective experience, but I had a fucking blast.
If by 'shamanic way' you mean using them as a tool to understand ones self and the world, then I'm sure most of the people on this board would be with you on that one. Although I don't see much use a ritualistic or ceremonial approach (traditional, tribal, etc.) if that's what you're referring to. But I would like to hear more about it.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: shelkov181]
#15809438 - 02/14/12 04:52 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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define 'shamanic'.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: Leenguy]
#15809467 - 02/14/12 04:56 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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I'm not sure if you would consider this an entirely shamanic way, but I have been taking them for meditation, light Kundalini Yoga, and I have played guitar for ten years and with my recent experiences I have been able to approach it in an entirely new way and I am very excited. But yes, more for knowledge than recreation.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: Pentley]
#15809501 - 02/14/12 05:01 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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But yes, more for placebo than knowledge.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: Leenguy]
#15809517 - 02/14/12 05:04 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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When I say I used them in a sharmanic manor, I dont mean in a traditional tribal way with rituals, I just mean I approached them with respect and used them to lose myself on solo trips in ideal settings, that was key to me!
One of my best trips was a solo acid trip climbing a snowy mountain in winter with no one around for miles, I can imagine other perfect settings might be an isolated beach near the sea or in the desert, somewhere awe inspiring. Even just your bedroom with a high dose and no stimuli like music or tv to get in the way.
But definitely enjoy yourself with mushrooms, do both. A good trip with friends can be a lot of fun and a good bonding experience.
Edited by MindFood (02/14/12 05:05 PM)
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: MindFood]
#15809704 - 02/14/12 05:31 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Quote:
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I just mean I approached them with respect and used them to lose myself on solo trips in ideal settings, that was key to me!
Same for me. Tripping with friends is fun, but I think I'll be balancing it with high dose solo journeys. No matter how close I am with my tripping buddies, I like being able go in without distraction. Granted, I've only taken 1 solo trip to 6 with company. But shit was it epic.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: shelkov181]
#15809748 - 02/14/12 05:39 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Quote:
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I just mean I approached them with respect and used them to lose myself on solo trips in ideal settings, that was key to me!
Same for me. Tripping with friends is fun, but I think I'll be balancing it with high dose solo journeys. No matter how close I am with my tripping buddies, I like being able go in without distraction. Granted, I've only taken 1 solo trip to 6 with company. But shit was it epic.
Yeah, it's a different ballgame for sure. I've tripped with sober/drunk people quite a few times, another tripper once, and other than that it's been all solo.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: Leenguy]
#15809945 - 02/14/12 06:09 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Don't you need to live in a village 10,000 years ago first to be able to use them this way?
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: Eschalt]
#15810015 - 02/14/12 06:21 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Don't you need to live in a village 10,000 years ago first to be able to use them this way?
No...
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: tokinman21]
#15810080 - 02/14/12 06:33 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Oh, ok.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: rikuni]
#15810503 - 02/14/12 07:58 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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I have studied with "the little ones who spring forth" on El Diete. Why do you ask?
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: Cactilove]
#15810512 - 02/14/12 07:59 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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I would never claim myself a shaman or anything of the sorts though.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: Cactilove]
#15810722 - 02/14/12 08:35 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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I would never claim myself a shaman or anything of the sorts though.
Shamanism is just a branch of spiritual practices. 
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: tokinman21]
#15810804 - 02/14/12 08:48 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Yes anyone can practice shamanism I agree, but in many of the south American shamanistic beliefs one who claims shaman is most likely not because this statement suggests one has not learned humility. People will call them what they will. The wounded healer knows the plants are doing the healing therefore will not take any credit himself. He or she has ultimate respect for the plant teachers and ultimate gratitude. To claim shaman is disrespectful to el plantas.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: Cactilove]
#15811993 - 02/15/12 02:16 AM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Im using them to communicate with spirits and do use them in a ritual way only. I need to learn more of course, the possibilitys are just 
What kind of dieta do you use for the shrooms?
Im heading for the amazon soon to do some serious work again, and would like to diet the shrooms there so that I get to know them better
thanks
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: rikuni]
#15813033 - 02/15/12 10:09 AM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Go on the regular diete but incorporate a very small non psychoactive amount of the chosen teacher plant into your daily diet. This will help you get to know the spirit. In my opinion the most effective diete is 1 month long. If you decide to go longer than know it will tax your body, mind, and spirit heavily. The longest diete I have done was 3 months. It was the hardest one I have ever done. I was taught the lessons, but it was hard for me to integrate so I may have to try it again.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: rikuni]
#15813154 - 02/15/12 10:31 AM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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I started out that way for me really nust use for spirtual healing. I think of it as like a great tool for insight meditation and understanding of oneself and universal exploratiom...
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: Cactilove]
#15813273 - 02/15/12 11:04 AM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Go on the regular diete but incorporate a very small non psychoactive amount of the chosen teacher plant into your daily diet. This will help you get to know the spirit. In my opinion the most effective diete is 1 month long. If you decide to go longer than know it will tax your body, mind, and spirit heavily. The longest diete I have done was 3 months. It was the hardest one I have ever done. I was taught the lessons, but it was hard for me to integrate so I may have to try it again.
yes thats my plan too. Well Ive got time but I want to diet a few other plants too, it should be possible to do a month with shrooms Are they available there anyways ?
I did 2 months once and yes its a hard challenge but also very rewarding if you make it. I try to do at least 3 months with different plants but lets see
It was only here that I discovered that these shrooms can connect one very good too if used properly of course
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: rikuni]
#15813564 - 02/15/12 12:18 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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I had this trip on which I sort of "asked the trip" to give me a fellow tripper's bad trip since I thought I'd be able to handle it better (i.e. not being so verbal of it as to ruin everyone else's trip). I'm surprised to say it worked instantly.
My friend was laying on the bed at that time, trying as hard as he could to cope with the bad feelings, evil visions, nausea and so on. A third friend was laying on the couch. When I went to the room and "asked the trip" in my head to give me my friend's bad trip, the air in the room changed (the couch-friend immediately noticed it and notified everyone). The other friend got up from the bed with a huge smile on his face, saying "the trip came back, but it's really good now!". I started having nausea, and soon evil visions (demons etc) surfaced. I spent the rest of the trip in the bathroom fighting the urge to puke - until;
At some point I noticed I could put music on from my phone. I put on Shulman's Retroscape, and got a smile on my face that didn't leave for the rest of the trip. Eventually the visions started to subside and I heard an auditive hallucination saying "take care of yourself". After that the trip was good, but already coming down.
Before this (i.e. coming up) I had the best of trips, felt like a buddha, just laughing at everything and all in all very clear-headed and amused. It changed almost immediately after I did the "asking".
Shamanic or placebo (or both), wouldn't know. Seemed pretty convincing at that time. Prolly wouldn't do it again though, it was pretty horrible.
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Oh yeah, the friend that was having the bad trip ended up having a really good time. It was almost like he was on ecstasy. Hugging everyone and smiling non-stop.
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Edited by Qualophile (02/15/12 12:20 PM)
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: Qualophile]
#15813641 - 02/15/12 12:44 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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nice experience
But sounds like the space wasnt protected and noone was holding the space. What you did is possible and good but one should not allow these other spirits to come in the first place
It is not a simple task to do this for many hours.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: rikuni]
#15815159 - 02/15/12 06:00 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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As far as mushrooms being available there. I'm sure they are, but probably illegal and probably just as hard to find as going to another unknown area and trying to find mushrooms. In other words It will be a challenging but possible. Now what exactly is holding the space? Is it when one requests the help of spirits to keep the area clean and pure of malignant spirits? I'm not sure I have never heard of this terminology.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: Cactilove]
#15817133 - 02/16/12 02:25 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Now what exactly is holding the space? Is it when one requests the help of spirits to keep the area clean and pure of malignant spirits? I'm not sure I have never heard of this terminology.
its a ritual and sacred space and that is of course clean of these other spirits. It means also to be aware and centered all the time.
Of course theres also the connection to the spirit world established in this space.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: rikuni]
#15817773 - 02/16/12 08:12 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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hope you find what your looking for in the Amazon , i think at some point in life we all wonder what the fuck is the point of this world , why are we here and how did we get here ?
where are we going and how long will it take to get there if we dont have a clue where there is to start with . i dont care about the answers to any of these questions anymore but i will take shrooms and smoke a bit weed along the way to make things more interesting .
live for today as yesterdays gone and tomorrows just a day away.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: mandrax360]
#15818088 - 02/16/12 09:37 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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There is no such thing as spirits... Shamanism is the most primitive of religions. Trips led to gods, and the loss of the source of the gods themselves led to the traditional religions. When I take a psychedelic I am communing with parts of my brain that aren't normally active, leading to the illusion of a greater picture that I am a part of, nothing more. The use of psychedelics for shamanic purposes is thus nothing more than a self delusion.
I am a psychonaut and nothing more. However that does not mean that psychedelics cannot improve a persons life.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: BobFromReboot]
#15818123 - 02/16/12 09:45 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Well that's just like, your opinion man.  I have seen spirits not tripping. Besides who is to say they are not real even if they do come from your mind. Remember your projecting this illusion. Reality is not something out there it's inside you. Haha no such things as spirit.
We get one of these naysayers in every thread like this.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: Cactilove]
#15818135 - 02/16/12 09:49 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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You just admit that they are all in your head. Maybe if everybody saw the same spirits as each other you would have a case. Alas they do not. Do a little bit of research on the mind. Sure it creates reality. It creates the reality of a Christian, just the same way that it creates the reality of a schizophrenic person, and an atheist. Does that mean they are all right? Of course not, because subjective reality is not the same things as consensus reality.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: BobFromReboot]
#15818145 - 02/16/12 09:51 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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By the way I think you misunderstand what most psychs do. Psilocin actually deactivated parts of your brain. The parts responsible for filtering. It doesn't put your brain on overdrive. It's allows you to see what the world really is as it is.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: Cactilove]
#15818151 - 02/16/12 09:52 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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No it doesn't. If that we're true everybody would see the same thing on drugs.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: BobFromReboot]
#15818168 - 02/16/12 09:57 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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I'm telling you it doesn't matter if it is in your head, it doesnt make it less real is what I'm telling you. Oh and many people do see the same spirits and spirits worlds. My buddies and I have been attacked by these things. They exist man. No way of convincing me otherwise. I have enough proof for myself.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: BobFromReboot]
#15818177 - 02/16/12 09:58 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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People see the same things on drugs all the time. Yes psilocybin according to a recent study shuts down filter points. Do some research before you tell me I'm wrong.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: BobFromReboot]
#15818197 - 02/16/12 10:03 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Any way I don't see much point in going back and forth. Obviously your set in your beliefs and I'm set in mine it's our right to do so. We both used psychedelic but with diferent motives therefore our opinions differ greatly. Always appreciate the thought though.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: Cactilove]
#15818205 - 02/16/12 10:04 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Anecdotal evidence of a drug trip is not proof for anything buddy. Big deal if it shuts off filter points. All it means is your brain is functioning differently, leading to extreme suggestibility, feelings of meaning. Do you truly think that our brain just magically sees spirits then evolved to shut them out? Why can't instruments of science detect these spirits? If our brain takes effort NOT to see them, why the fuck would it be so hard for an instrument designed for just that exist?
You are basing your argument on ONE study to validate your delusions.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: BobFromReboot]
#15818279 - 02/16/12 10:27 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Nah man I think everyone sees spirits they just don't notice them. As I said I and others have seen spirits stone cold sober at the same time. What is it that lead you to believe we are just hollow sacks of flesh and blood? Where is your Logic behind they don't exist? I have seen them so that is enough proof for me that they do exist.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: Cactilove]
#15818281 - 02/16/12 10:28 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Oohh enjoying this though. Love picking each others brain.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: Cactilove]
#15818302 - 02/16/12 10:35 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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A gas leak could easily explain your experience.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: BobFromReboot]
#15818319 - 02/16/12 10:40 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Shah hah this is true! Except for seeing the same spirit. How about visiting the same realm phenomena. For instance many people go a dark carnival after smoking salvia. Does salvia really activate the part of your brain that thinks about dark carnivals? There are many other similarities and even the seeing of the same entities in these realms. If you look through enough trip reports you start seeing all of this "seeing the same shit" phenomena.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: Cactilove]
#15818344 - 02/16/12 10:46 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Most likely because most people are subjected to the same images in day to day life. Memes are powerful things.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: BobFromReboot]
#15819077 - 02/16/12 01:28 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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BobFromReboot said:
Do you truly think that our brain just magically sees spirits then evolved to shut them out? Why can't instruments of science detect these spirits? If our brain takes effort NOT to see them, why the fuck would it be so hard for an instrument designed for just that exist?
You are basing your argument on ONE study to validate your delusions.
Why hasn't there been instruments of science that can detect the quality of an object? We all know what quality is. Obviously a newer car has more quality than an older car. But then you have vintage cars which have more of a consensus quality than both the new and old cars. But there is no instrument to output "10.1 Quality".
Yet we KNOW that quality exists. If it didn't, then everything would be of the same quality and nothing would be 'special, meaningful'.
Don't count on science to explain all phenomena, even ones that are universal such as our notions of quality. Therefore, the universality of extra-dimensional beings (spirits) may not be measurable by conventional science.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: MindFood]
#15819385 - 02/16/12 02:40 PM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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MindFood said:
I've definitely used them as a tool for healing and self exploration. A lot of my trips were solely for this purpose, but a lot of my other trips were just to have a good time.
Some of my best trips were the ones of self exploration and have given me so much inspiration in return that I used in my personal life. It is because of using mushrooms in a shamanic manor that I have run the NYC Marathon and I also climbed Mt Kilimanjaro last year. These were both mind enhancing experiences themselves, but mushrooms helped me to realise my potential, and they also made me realise what I want to get from life..
Thats awesome man!!!!
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: EvolveShrooms]
#15819493 - 02/16/12 03:09 PM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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yes i do grt learning exp. also with yur girl yur more open 2 discussion
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: BobFromReboot]
#15819543 - 02/16/12 03:27 PM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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BobFromReboot said:
You just admit that they are all in your head. Maybe if everybody saw the same spirits as each other you would have a case. Alas they do not. Do a little bit of research on the mind. Sure it creates reality. It creates the reality of a Christian, just the same way that it creates the reality of a schizophrenic person, and an atheist. Does that mean they are all right? Of course not, because subjective reality is not the same things as consensus reality.
how come that I can connect to certain spirits and then they appear in the visions of other people in the room? All in my head
Also shrooms do not overdrive your brain they do exactly the opposite. Read the new science reports. But believe what you want. I prefere to know
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: rikuni]
#15819899 - 02/16/12 04:57 PM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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Look! We've got a few people in one thread that have independently discovered the spirit realm! Why not capitalize on this discovery, if its true then soon we will be able to email our dead relatives.
This is all backed up by the precise science of one study that shows that your brain is in fact less active on psychedelics. Which somehow makes all of my arguments worthless.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: Qualophile]
#15819971 - 02/16/12 05:15 PM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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that was a very courageous and noble thing to do.
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Qualophile said:
I had this trip on which I sort of "asked the trip" to give me a fellow tripper's bad trip since I thought I'd be able to handle it better (i.e. not being so verbal of it as to ruin everyone else's trip). I'm surprised to say it worked instantly.
My friend was laying on the bed at that time, trying as hard as he could to cope with the bad feelings, evil visions, nausea and so on. A third friend was laying on the couch. When I went to the room and "asked the trip" in my head to give me my friend's bad trip, the air in the room changed (the couch-friend immediately noticed it and notified everyone). The other friend got up from the bed with a huge smile on his face, saying "the trip came back, but it's really good now!". I started having nausea, and soon evil visions (demons etc) surfaced. I spent the rest of the trip in the bathroom fighting the urge to puke - until;
At some point I noticed I could put music on from my phone. I put on Shulman's Retroscape, and got a smile on my face that didn't leave for the rest of the trip. Eventually the visions started to subside and I heard an auditive hallucination saying "take care of yourself". After that the trip was good, but already coming down.
Before this (i.e. coming up) I had the best of trips, felt like a buddha, just laughing at everything and all in all very clear-headed and amused. It changed almost immediately after I did the "asking".
Shamanic or placebo (or both), wouldn't know. Seemed pretty convincing at that time. Prolly wouldn't do it again though, it was pretty horrible.
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Oh yeah, the friend that was having the bad trip ended up having a really good time. It was almost like he was on ecstasy. Hugging everyone and smiling non-stop.
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: BobFromReboot]
#15820138 - 02/16/12 05:48 PM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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Ahahha ha. Well, Bob you have made some good points, but I believe I did as well. Now the question is....
How do we decide who really is the delusional one?
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: rikuni]
#15821007 - 02/16/12 08:42 PM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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I enjoy a good meditation during my mushrooms experience, it lets me get the most out of my mushrooms. Also doing it this way helps you learn how to deal with the intense body load. The only problem i have seen with this is that on my last shroom trip i took like, a quarter maybe even more because i had an ounce and i was to high to even meditate. I kinda feel that you must meditate before the trip because if not you wont be focused enough haha. and btw i am new here nice to finally be apart of the board 
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: Cactilove]
#15821150 - 02/16/12 09:08 PM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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Cactilove said:
Ahahha ha. Well, Bob you have made some good points, but I believe I did as well. Now the question is....
How do we decide who really is the delusional one?
Not you!
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Re: Anyone here using mushrooms in shamanic way ? [Re: Leenguy]
#15821233 - 02/16/12 09:19 PM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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Leenguy said:
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Pentley said:
But yes, more for placebo than knowledge.
If this were a thread about cannabis, I would award you with the merit you warrant.
I think you misunderstood my statement, so let me try to clarify. I don't believe that any substance can make a man create masterpieces. For myself, I was able to break away from the E7s and the Am-flat-5s and see these notes more as lines on a notepad rather than tones on a cleft. This doesn't come about from a sugar pill or the way the mind manifests that pill.
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