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 US tribe sues beer makers for $500m over alcohol abuse 
#15807892 - 02/14/12 10:46 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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US tribe sues beer makers for $500m over alcohol abuse
The community of the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation has battled alcohol issues for years
An American-Indian tribe in South Dakota has sued some of the world's biggest beer firms over severe alcohol-related issues in the community.
The Oglala Sioux Tribe are asking for $500m (£316m) for healthcare, social services and child rehabilitation.
Tribal elders say the lawsuit is a last resort after efforts to curb abuse through protests and policy failed.
On the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation one in four children suffers foetal disorders caused by alcohol abuse.
The lawsuit, filed in the district court of Nebraska, targets Anheuser-Busch InBev Worldwide, SAB Miller, Molson Coors Brewing Company, MillerCoors LLC, and Pabst Brewing Company.
There was no immediate response from those firms.
'Notorious sales'
The lawsuit also names the nearby town of Whiteclay, Nebraska, which has four beer shops that sold nearly five million beer cans in 2010 despite having only about a dozen residents.
Alcohol is outlawed on the reservation and the nearest town which allows alcohol is 20 miles (32km) away, Mark Vasina, president of Nebraskans for Peace, told the Associated Press news agency.
The lawsuit alleges that beer makers and the shop owners knew the alcohol would be smuggled into the reservation for consumption or resale.
The legal documents allege: "The illegal sale and trade in alcohol in Whiteclay is open, notorious and well documented by news reports, legislative hearings, movies, public protests and law enforcement activities."
Meanwhile, Tom White, the lawyer representing the tribe, told the Associated Press news agency: "You cannot sell 4.9 million 12oz [356ml] cans of beer and wash your hands like Pontius Pilate, and say we've got nothing to do with it being smuggled."
The reservation has grappled with alcohol problems and poverty for generations, and the tribal council has said it hopes the case will help protect the community's youth.
"Like American parents everywhere, we will do everything lawful we can to protect the health, welfare and future of our children," Tribal President John Yellow Bird Steele told the Associated Press news agency.
The reservation, which is about the size of the state of Connecticut, includes Shannon County, the third poorest county in the US.
The median income in the area is $27,300 and almost half of the population is considered to be living below federal poverty standards.
The life expectancy in the community is between 45 and 52 years - the lowest in North America except Haiti - and far below the national average of 77.5 years.
Nebraska State Senator LeRoy Louden has said that after struggling with the problem for years, the state has introduced legislation that would impose restrictions - on the types of alcohol that can be sold and business hours.
The town of Whiteclay, Nebraska, has four beer shops
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16976700
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Re: US tribe sues beer makers for $500m over alcohol abuse [Re: aj123] 3
#15807903 - 02/14/12 10:50 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Well, hell. Blaming others for our shortcomings is the American way.
America! Fuck Yeah!
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Re: US tribe sues beer makers for $500m over alcohol abuse [Re: aj123]
#15807907 - 02/14/12 10:51 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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isnt weed legal for them, why dont them fools just smoke weed?
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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: US tribe sues beer makers for $500m over alcohol abuse [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#15807949 - 02/14/12 11:03 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said:
Well, hell. Blaming others for our shortcomings is the American way.
America! Fuck Yeah!
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Re: US tribe sues beer makers for $500m over alcohol abuse [Re: Psychoslut]
#15807975 - 02/14/12 11:12 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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weeds legal for american indians? news to me.
I know the religious use of peyote by members of the native american church is legal though 
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Re: US tribe sues beer makers for $500m over alcohol abuse [Re: aj123]
#15807988 - 02/14/12 11:15 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Don't forget the dmt exception for the santo daime church.
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Re: US tribe sues beer makers for $500m over alcohol abuse [Re: love2shpongleIRL] 6
#15808032 - 02/14/12 11:27 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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If drug dealers/manufactures are responsible for the users in the community, why shouldn't alcohol dealers/manufactures be in the same boat?
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Re: US tribe sues beer makers for $500m over alcohol abuse [Re: sk8ordude]
#15808056 - 02/14/12 11:36 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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sk8ordude said:
If drug dealers/manufactures are responsible for the users in the community, why shouldn't alcohol dealers/manufactures be in the same boat?
Thats a good point, fuck alcohol anyways.
If i woke up tomorrow and alcohol and tobacco was illegal, and weed was legal, i wouldnt shed a tear.
I was raised by an alcoholic prick and lost two close family members to lung cancer. Weed has never caused any problem.
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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: US tribe sues beer makers for $500m over alcohol abuse [Re: Psychoslut]
#15808162 - 02/14/12 12:18 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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The median income in the area is $27,300 and almost half of the population is considered to be living below federal poverty standards.
Here lies the problem. It has been shown many times that poverty and bad living conditions in general lead to increased drug abuse problems.
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Nebraska State Senator LeRoy Louden has said that after struggling with the problem for years, the state has introduced legislation that would impose restrictions - on the types of alcohol that can be sold and business hours.
Yeah, great. Prohibition has never fixed a drug problem, so stop pretending that it will in the future.
They should rather try to raise the standards of living - but of course, that's not as simple as being "tough on crime". 
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Re: US tribe sues beer makers for $500m over alcohol abuse [Re: Lord_McLovin]
#15808202 - 02/14/12 12:34 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Indians dont know how to make there own booze.
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Good now thats clear.WHO FUCKING CARES. If I am fat u all keep pointing it out like its suppose to be a secret.LIke u really have nothing better to do then make fat jokes. If o know its like I do I know yall can come up with NEW AND BETTER SHIT . This shit is old and boring . I left in the first place cause this shit got boring not because of the fat jokes . Fat jokes dont bother me but seriously its old[/quote]
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Re: US tribe sues beer makers for $500m over alcohol abuse [Re: aj123]
#15808420 - 02/14/12 01:22 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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I wonder what they would use the 500m for...
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Re: US tribe sues beer makers for $500m over alcohol abuse [Re: Zardos] 2
#15808465 - 02/14/12 01:34 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Zardos said:
I wonder what they would use the 500m for.
Buying whiskey.
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Re: US tribe sues beer makers for $500m over alcohol abuse [Re: Zardos]
#15808471 - 02/14/12 01:36 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Casinos. Or tomahawks.
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Re: US tribe sues beer makers for $500m over alcohol abuse [Re: Zardos]
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Casinos no doubt.
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Re: US tribe sues beer makers for $500m over alcohol abuse [Re: aj123]
#15808676 - 02/14/12 02:27 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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What is it with native people. Here we have Australian Aborigines and they love grog they all drink like there is no tomorrow. They have to have dry communities where alcohol is illegal, prices are Great if you smuggle it in lol. Some are known to drink methylated spirits. I think American-Indians have the best traditions, great people and ceremonies And I think that they should revert back to more traditional ways. But I don't have to deal with them lol. It is terrible that they have such extensive cultural backgrounds and they waste it. I'm jealous my cultural background is Easter (easter eggs), Birthdays, Christmas (presents), Australia Day and so on but im not sure if that's cultural or just that the marketing people on TV told me so.
Living in areas with high populations of Aboriginals is a horrible experience, they are drunks, abusive, stink, uneducated impolite begging horrible people. BUT they are also the kindest people and the complete opposite to what I just said the alcohol makes them ... different, maybe it's got to do with evolution (in the brain using this drug) or maybe alcohol is not a drug of their cultural background and doesn't agree with them. Or maybe they have lost their ways gotten depressed because of the crap the British caused (haha blame that blame the British lets take over their shitty little country lol) and started drinking and became alcoholics and it all spirals downhill from there.
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Re: US tribe sues beer makers for $500m over alcohol abuse [Re: closet hippie]
#15808847 - 02/14/12 03:11 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Quote:
closet hippie said:
What is it with native people. Here we have Australian Aborigines and they love grog they all drink like there is no tomorrow. They have to have dry communities where alcohol is illegal, prices are Great if you smuggle it in lol. Some are known to drink methylated spirits. I think American-Indians have the best traditions, great people and ceremonies And I think that they should revert back to more traditional ways. But I don't have to deal with them lol. It is terrible that they have such extensive cultural backgrounds and they waste it. I'm jealous my cultural background is Easter (easter eggs), Birthdays, Christmas (presents), Australia Day and so on but im not sure if that's cultural or just that the marketing people on TV told me so.
Living in areas with high populations of Aboriginals is a horrible experience, they are drunks, abusive, stink, uneducated impolite begging horrible people. BUT they are also the kindest people and the complete opposite to what I just said the alcohol makes them ... different, maybe it's got to do with evolution (in the brain using this drug) or maybe alcohol is not a drug of their cultural background and doesn't agree with them. Or maybe they have lost their ways gotten depressed because of the crap the British caused (haha blame that blame the British lets take over their shitty little country lol) and started drinking and became alcoholics and it all spirals downhill from there.
It's because Native Americans didn't drink until settlers from Europe showed up. We europeans have bodies that have adapted over the course of many many generations to alcohol consumption; most of us have a composition of enzymes that makes drinking somewhat less psychoactive. Native Americans have a composition of enzymes suited to the kind of diet that native americans had up until the last few centuries. When they drink, they literally get a better high than we do. Same probably goes for Australian aboriginals, I doubt they drank alcohol until white folks showed up. The other issue is that many native americans have no jobs and live in shitty conditions, so drinking is a natural crutch.
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Re: US tribe sues beer makers for $500m over alcohol abuse [Re: morrowasted] 1
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closet hippie said:
What is it with native people. Here we have Australian Aborigines and they love grog they all drink like there is no tomorrow. They have to have dry communities where alcohol is illegal, prices are Great if you smuggle it in lol. Some are known to drink methylated spirits. I think American-Indians have the best traditions, great people and ceremonies And I think that they should revert back to more traditional ways. But I don't have to deal with them lol. It is terrible that they have such extensive cultural backgrounds and they waste it. I'm jealous my cultural background is Easter (easter eggs), Birthdays, Christmas (presents), Australia Day and so on but im not sure if that's cultural or just that the marketing people on TV told me so.
Living in areas with high populations of Aboriginals is a horrible experience, they are drunks, abusive, stink, uneducated impolite begging horrible people. BUT they are also the kindest people and the complete opposite to what I just said the alcohol makes them ... different, maybe it's got to do with evolution (in the brain using this drug) or maybe alcohol is not a drug of their cultural background and doesn't agree with them. Or maybe they have lost their ways gotten depressed because of the crap the British caused (haha blame that blame the British lets take over their shitty little country lol) and started drinking and became alcoholics and it all spirals downhill from there.
It's because Native Americans didn't drink until settlers from Europe showed up. We europeans have bodies that have adapted over the course of many many generations to alcohol consumption; most of us have a composition of enzymes that makes drinking somewhat less psychoactive. Native Americans have a composition of enzymes suited to the kind of diet that native americans had up until the last few centuries. When they drink, they literally get a better high than we do. Same probably goes for Australian aboriginals, I doubt they drank alcohol until white folks showed up. The other issue is that many native americans have no jobs and live in shitty conditions, so drinking is a natural crutch.
I bet it cost millions to come up with this conclusion. But further studies are needed, LOL as always. I think it's really about wiping out traditional cultures and races because they don't make MONEY MONEY MONEY.
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Re: US tribe sues beer makers for $500m over alcohol abuse [Re: closet hippie] 1
#15808987 - 02/14/12 03:30 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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What is it with native people.
500 years of oppression; in a sentence.
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Re: US tribe sues beer makers for $500m over alcohol abuse [Re: shivas.wisdom]
#15809465 - 02/14/12 04:56 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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That is what happens with reparations. As long as you give someone free food, housing, etc. you cannot expect them to ever act like adults or take any responsibility for their actions. While they are asking the government to take their rights away, why not just ask to be enslaved? Oh yeah because they already get free food and housing without having to do any work.
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Re: US tribe sues beer makers for $500m over alcohol abuse [Re: Leon Ferrum]
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This picture came to my mind when I read this thread, I couldn't help but laugh
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