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 Re: Gasoline is going through the roof [Re: Prisoner#1]
#15809817 - 02/14/12 05:46 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
which vehicles on the roads run on solid fuels?
There you go, no trees burned.
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Re: Gasoline is going through the roof [Re: psi]
#15809819 - 02/14/12 05:47 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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There you go, no trees burned.
Just chopped down to grow feed and build roads!
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Re: Gasoline is going through the roof [Re: blujay]
#15809833 - 02/14/12 05:49 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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blujay said:
I was under the impression crystalline entrapment approaches to storing hydrogen suffered from not being dense enough, not being safe enough, and the same rare-earth mineral barrier for stuff like silicon. I'll have to read more about those methods, that's very interesting.
I would also argue that the "successful" species in the universe probably didn't waste almost all their rare earth minerals on iPods and fancy vibrators. Though, at this point I find it an interesting philosophical game: is there "successful" higher-sentient life in the universe, operating in a long-term fully sustainable low-impact manner? A race so organized they're busy building generation/seed/colony ships in anticipation of their solar star's death? Or does the learning curve beget that you end up destroying everything just before you can appreciate the gravity of waste your species is causing?
I believe the answer to your question lies in the level of impact that science plays on other possible lifeforms that may exist in the universe. I would argue that our biggest problem is resistance to scientific knowledge for various reasons (policy, personal beliefs, ease, etc.)...
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Re: Gasoline is going through the roof [Re: 420Experience]
#15809849 - 02/14/12 05:52 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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The biggest problem is the size of the population. Very few people can understand the need to change technologies. Personally I feel the weather is different and the air is hard to breathe.
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Re: Gasoline is going through the roof [Re: blujay]
#15809863 - 02/14/12 05:53 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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We are destroying everything? Let's see scientific data? Or are you just parrotting letists green bullshit?
Van Jones, former administrator in the Obama administration:
(He is a self proclaimed communist)
"The color of communism is no longer red. It is green."
Is the point of the green movement really to save the earth? Or give a boost to a socialistic agenda?
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420Experience
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Re: Gasoline is going through the roof [Re: starfire_xes]
#15809877 - 02/14/12 05:55 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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starfire_xes said:
We are destroying everything? Let's see scientific data? Or are you just parrotting letists green bullshit?
Van Jones, former administrator in the Obama administration:
(He is a self proclaimed communist)
"The color of communism is no longer red. It is green."
Is the point of the green movement really to save the earth? Or give a boost to a socialistic agenda?
I hope that question is a joke... Do you understand the actual concept of socialism/communism? Cause, as used by FOX News, they are almost never used as per their actual definitions...
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blujay
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Re: Gasoline is going through the roof [Re: starfire_xes]
#15809888 - 02/14/12 05:57 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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starfire_xes said:
We are destroying everything? Let's see scientific data? Or are you just parrotting letists green bullshit?
Van Jones, former administrator in the Obama administration:
(He is a self proclaimed communist)
"The color of communism is no longer red. It is green."
Is the point of the green movement really to save the earth? Or give a boost to a socialistic agenda?
Yes I'll just explain something with two dozen complex facets in a forum post and I'm totally qualified to appropriately represent that.
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Re: Gasoline is going through the roof [Re: 420Experience]
#15809894 - 02/14/12 05:58 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Im just telling you what a self proclaimed communist said....
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Re: Gasoline is going through the roof [Re: psi] 1
#15809896 - 02/14/12 05:59 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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psi said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
which vehicles on the roads run on solid fuels?
There you go, no trees burned.
coal required for shaping horse shoes
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420Experience
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Re: Gasoline is going through the roof [Re: starfire_xes] 1
#15809903 - 02/14/12 06:00 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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starfire_xes said:
Im just telling you what a self proclaimed communist said....
Gotta love all those self-proclaimed communists. The majority of those that I have met haven't even ever read communist philosophy 
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Re: Gasoline is going through the roof [Re: starfire_xes]
#15809905 - 02/14/12 06:01 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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starfire_xes said:
"The color of communism is no longer red. It is green."
Is the point of the green movement really to save the earth? Or give a boost to a socialistic agenda?
the point is money, money is green and there's fuckloads of green to be made in green
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Re: Gasoline is going through the roof [Re: DieCommie]
#15809910 - 02/14/12 06:01 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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DieCommie said:
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There you go, no trees burned.
Just chopped down to grow feed and build roads!
Not to mention the wood used to make the cart. Que sera sera.
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starfire_xes
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Re: Gasoline is going through the roof [Re: 420Experience]
#15809922 - 02/14/12 06:06 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Well, Van Jones is a member of the US communist party....Obama's former 'Green' czar. And ill agree Obama is not a communist. He fits this definition:
"a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition"
Fits Obama Well, do you know what it is called? Bush was one too.
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Re: Gasoline is going through the roof [Re: starfire_xes]
#15809980 - 02/14/12 06:16 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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right because sustainable living methods more immediately profitable than big oil right
right nobody is lobbying for oil
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starfire_xes
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Re: Gasoline is going through the roof [Re: blujay]
#15810102 - 02/14/12 06:37 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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right to your opinion bro. Myself, I choose freewill.
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Re: Gasoline is going through the roof [Re: blujay]
#15810214 - 02/14/12 07:03 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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blujay said:
right because sustainable living methods more immediately profitable than big oil right
right nobody is lobbying for oil
this.
i'm sorry that some of us desire a more sustainable society. progress isn't all bad, guys.
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Re: Gasoline is going through the roof [Re: starfire_xes]
#15810226 - 02/14/12 07:04 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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starfire_xes said:
right to your opinion bro. Myself, I choose freewill.
please.
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Re: Gasoline is going through the roof [Re: wildchild68]
#15810253 - 02/14/12 07:10 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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-look at how many people support oil and how many support limiting it. I think you will find a minority (~30%) By the way, how dirty is the air today, compared to 1970. What's the reason?
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Prisoner#1
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Re: Gasoline is going through the roof [Re: wildchild68]
#15810587 - 02/14/12 08:12 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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wildchild68 said:
Quote:
blujay said:
right because sustainable living methods more immediately profitable than big oil right
right nobody is lobbying for oil
this.
i'm sorry that some of us desire a more sustainable society. progress isn't all bad, guys.
'sustainability'' will not be accomplished in our lifetimes and certainly cant be accomplished through legislation
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420Experience
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Re: Gasoline is going through the roof [Re: Prisoner#1]
#15812553 - 02/15/12 07:46 AM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:
wildchild68 said:
Quote:
blujay said:
right because sustainable living methods more immediately profitable than big oil right
right nobody is lobbying for oil
this.
i'm sorry that some of us desire a more sustainable society. progress isn't all bad, guys.
'sustainability'' will not be accomplished in our lifetimes and certainly cant be accomplished through legislation
^^ This.
Congress is bought and sold, not a constituency support as their designed to be. Further, like medical marijuana, states and the federal government bicker to no end about what the regulations should be...
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