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 FellowGrower
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 Re: Getting into Debt; with NO INTENTION of paying it back... bad idea?  [Re: cateyes]
#15787536 - 02/10/12 06:53 AM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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Yeah, Not reading someones response is pretty lame; I don't care how long it is... it reminds me of like arguing with a 3 year old... and they say..."You're boobie  head!" and then you try to say something back and they cover their ears and yell bla bla bla! its like; he's obviously too immature (or in denial) to discuss things rationally...
so? ...like I said... you can lead a horse to water... its up to him (and anyone else with hope) to actually WATCH the videos and analyze the data, and put 2 and 2 together...
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cateyes
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 Re: Getting into Debt; with NO INTENTION of paying it back... bad idea? [Re: FellowGrower]
#15787707 - 02/10/12 07:57 AM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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did you read my posts regarding HVAC/R school? and the possibility of qualifying for grants? just a fucking idea bro just in case they figure out some way to prop up the economy for the next ten years or so because it's been one scheme after the next for the past almost two decades. solid training in HVAC/R could allow you to travel to anywhere in the English speaking world and land a great job... trust me on this one man... i know and completely understand this field intimately enough to know if you know your shit you are basically guaranteed a great life without the need for a college degree. i know dudes with high school educations and serious trade school and work experience who are ass kissing respected by the best trained engineers... wouldn't it be cool to make 60-80K or more!!! per year, outstanding benefits and high tech ongoing training? there is no better field to consider especially if you make all the right career moves and hook up with a major manufacturer. i work for Trane which was purchased by ingersol rand... we are fucking bullet proof and located in every country on earth... we are the best!!! fuck carrier and york and mcquay and anyone else!
DO THIS!!!! this type of job, if you manage your career properly will beat the living piss out of any college degree... just saying and tossing an idea out there...
Kensho   <----- brother from another planet...
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Re: Getting into Debt; with NO INTENTION of paying it back... bad idea? [Re: FellowGrower]
#15787738 - 02/10/12 08:03 AM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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A lot of people like bambi live in a fantasy world, and just come up with ideas that suit their needs. I know people like this, they do no study, and yet they think they know something or everything.
I have been a student and investor of the financial markets for near 20 years, my father for over 50 years. Without the commitment to economic study, there is no way one can understand what takes place in the world.
This country is in big trouble in many ways, many on this board will put out economic stats from the government and say everything is just fine, guess what, the stats they put out are "lies", and are worthless.
I can tell you that smart investors of large sums of money do not waste any time reading headline stats released by the government, they spend their weekends doing their own study, reading the best of the best and coming to their own conclusions.
Doing economic study has nothing do to with being a optimistic, it's called being open minded to what the facts and markets are telling us, and I think we found out that many on these boards are not open minded.
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Re: Getting into Debt; with NO INTENTION of paying it back... bad idea? [Re: qman]
#15787819 - 02/10/12 08:30 AM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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i couldn't agree with you more qman... the inflation Data is laughable... i subscribe to the economist electronically along with others and my dad to many others including stratfor and the economic statistics coming out of our government for the past 40 years were corrupt! people who challenge me with their economic bullshit on this server are pathetic string alongs... i don't mean to be mean when i say these things but when someone tells me to read a book on economics and get back to them i laugh my ass off... we, meaning my family, made all of the right moves back in 2006 3 months before the sub prime issue reared its head... the entire sub prime thingies was a well known wall street joke, an accident just waiting to happen. i personally feel it was done purposely... where's my tin hat?  ahhh... that's better! 
in any event, i for one am not going to drop this issue as long as i'm a member of this board... i have a duty to warn others here because i genuinely care for this community... if bambi chooses to ignore me, well then so be it... ignore my well known tendency to "rant" as he said i do... place me on ignore, do it bambi!
on a lighter note to FellowGrower... guess who loves Trane dude? i forgot to mention that the Chinese buy our shit by the boat loads! our interfaces come preloaded with every developed language imbedded in the internal software... a machine in China or Germany is exactly the same as the one's found here in the states... i can change the recognized language used in less then 30 seconds and the machine will be speaking Chinese with me... do this dude... the one thing you'll have to do though is cut back on your weed smoking, at least until you get in the door. this is true with any major manufacturer. and be prepared for a drug test should you fuck up big time, which is rare but just about every one of our clients requires an immediate drug test if an accident occurs including the company you work for insurance purposes... so you'll have to use in moderation at the very least, but it is a very small price to pay for an outstanding career... just saying...
again, cool post qman...
K~~~
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FellowGrower
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Re: Getting into Debt; with NO INTENTION of paying it back... bad idea? [Re: qman]
#15788392 - 02/10/12 12:34 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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A lot of people like bambi live in a fantasy world,
 whats wrong with that? This is a site; Theres ALOT of us that live in fantasy worlds.  
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just come up with ideas that suit their needs. I know people like this, they do no study, and yet they think they know something or everything.
would of been better to use a semicolon;  but whatever
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I have been a student and investor of the financial markets for near 20 years, my father for over 50 years.
so this somehow makes YOU one of those people who think they know something or everything? Quote:
Without the commitment to economic study, there is no way one can understand what takes place in the world.
... we can look at history dipshit (I just thru the dipshit in for effect)(no offence) :tounge: Quote:
Doing economic study has nothing do to with being a optimistic, it's called being open minded to what the facts and markets are telling us,
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and I think we found out that many on these boards are not open minded.
 Fuck what the "Markets" are telling us, look at what YouTube is telling us!  or what redtube is showing us! (free) (DO NOT CLICK THAT ITS PORN NSFW!  
We all know the only reason I made this post is b/c 
So?! you know? I guess its good  about anything
Edited by FellowGrower (02/10/12 12:36 PM)
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Re: Getting into Debt; with NO INTENTION of paying it back... bad idea? [Re: FellowGrower] 1
#15791515 - 02/11/12 05:30 AM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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if you're going to troll, at least make it funny.
you're just making an ass of yourself at this point.
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FellowGrower
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Re: Getting into Debt; with NO INTENTION of paying it back... bad idea? [Re: Wut a Twist]
#15791638 - 02/11/12 06:39 AM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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FellowGrower
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Re: Getting into Debt; with NO INTENTION of paying it back... bad idea? [Re: FellowGrower]
#15791648 - 02/11/12 06:44 AM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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...hey, if you don't have anything NICE to say 
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Re: Getting into Debt; with NO INTENTION of paying it back... bad idea? [Re: FellowGrower]
#15792182 - 02/11/12 10:08 AM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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Yeah, just earned your way on my ignore list.
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Re: Getting into Debt; with NO INTENTION of paying it back... bad idea? [Re: FellowGrower] 1
#15792468 - 02/11/12 11:28 AM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
Can I borrow some money from you? How much you got? I'll take anything.
Well?
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FellowGrower
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Re: Getting into Debt; with NO INTENTION of paying it back... bad idea? [Re: c1dh3d]
#15798879 - 02/12/12 04:07 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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Yeah, just earned your way on my ignore list.
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Re: Getting into Debt; with NO INTENTION of paying it back... bad idea? [Re: FellowGrower]
#15801866 - 02/13/12 06:04 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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I've done this and I don't regret it at all(I wish I would have used the money more wisely though lol). 
It's no thing to me because I can just put stuff in my dad or brothers name if I need credit. I don't work(and don't plan on it) and have a shack I live in for free that I will have for the rest of my life so I really have no need for credit.
If you have no one else to rely on it might not be the best idea but if you have family members that are cool its not that bad of an idea imo. If your all on your own its probably not the best idea to ruin your credit as it will make it pretty hard to get places to live and such in the future.
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Re: Getting into Debt; with NO INTENTION of paying it back... bad idea? [Re: Cmac]
#15807281 - 02/14/12 07:15 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Thanks Cmac, finally someone that will level with me!
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FellowGrower
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Re: Getting into Debt; with NO INTENTION of paying it back... bad idea? [Re: Cmac]
#15807407 - 02/14/12 08:09 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Cmac said:
I've done this and I don't regret it at all(I wish I would have used the money more wisely though lol).
what'd you buy?
All I REALLY want is an awesome 
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Re: Getting into Debt; with NO INTENTION of paying it back... bad idea? [Re: FellowGrower]
#15808919 - 02/14/12 03:23 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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actually the web based radio station in my signature has a number of guest economists on who discuss this strategy all of the time. i personally have no need to wreck my credit i have zero debt, i own everything that is mine but there are many people out there who have driven up their debt on important on sale shit and make payments... if you own no assets that could be garnished and a credit card company was stupid enough to grant you a line of credit worthy of wrecking your credit over then by all means prepare for the coming collapse because i give it a year past inauguration before things are completely obvious to even the staunchest of optimists... how much money are you planning om defaulting on? what kind of line of credit do you have?
and Cman... weren't you the ray peat dude? do you think ray peat is going to default on his credit? i have a completely different perspective of you now... i mean here's a guy telling me all about the thyroid and MY MD is an asshole and here you are a discussing how to purposely default on your credit line... i'm not criticizing i'm just trying to understand the psychology here... what a fucking joke you've turned out to be... borrowing on your dad and brothers line of credit? shit if you were my brother i wouldn't lend you a fucking nickel.. you don't ever plan on working? what the fuck do you do? just hang out in your shack? what a fucking dreg...
FellowGrower if you plan on really doing this how much money are we talking? i thought i was pretty clear in my posts that i had some understanding of the strategy here, but are we talking 10's of thousands of dollars in credit card debt or a stinking $1500.00 dollar credit line? i have to imagine filing bankruptcy has to cost at least 2-3 grand to stop the phone calls and future payroll garnishments that do happen man. what if for some reason the collapse doesn't happen too quickly and they prop it up in other painful ways? you'll be stuck with phone calls because creditors do have rights that can drag you into court and if you chose to not show up, guess
what? now there is a contempt of court charge against you and a warrant is put out for your arrest. and when you're caught and placed in jail because a bondsman will never front you, you stay in jail until the creditors have their day in court with you... i mean the possibilities are endless because the economists who discuss this strategy advise setting aside all of the money you'll need to file bankruptcy... yes FellowGrower, this is an integral part of the default strategy discussed openly on web based radio...
finally you have someone to support you!!! how much money are we talking about here? and be careful how you answer because by doing so you'll have expressed intent to commit a crime not that the bankers aren't fucking crooks themselves... you'll just become a different flavor...
K~~~
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Re: Getting into Debt; with NO INTENTION of paying it back... bad idea? [Re: FellowGrower]
#15809118 - 02/14/12 03:56 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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FellowGrower said:
All I REALLY want is an awesome
So? what are we talking? like $450.00 max?!
So
...my thinking is that it will be a good investment and save money on my weed bill every month b/c more will go farther (in a vape) right?
...so maybe it'll pay for itself eventually?
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Re: Getting into Debt; with NO INTENTION of paying it back... bad idea? [Re: FellowGrower]
#15809298 - 02/14/12 04:25 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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I got a used digi volcano you can buy off me. $670 new. I'll let it go for $425
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Re: Getting into Debt; with NO INTENTION of paying it back... bad idea? [Re: FellowGrower]
#15809318 - 02/14/12 04:30 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Don't even waste your time talking to these dead beats, they have it all figured out. They will find out how fun it is when they want to rent a apartment, buy a home, get a car, or anything needed to survive.
They think just about today, the don't think about their future, they might think differently in 5-10 years, but guess what, their credit will still say the same thing, "Dead beats".
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Re: Getting into Debt; with NO INTENTION of paying it back... bad idea? [Re: cateyes]
#15809331 - 02/14/12 04:31 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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cateyes said:
if you own no assets that could be garnished and a credit card company was stupid enough to grant you a line of credit worthy of wrecking your credit over then by all means prepare for the coming collapse because i give it a year past inauguration before things are completely obvious to even the staunchest of optimists...
K~~~
How bout you be a little more specific, so I can bump this thread in a couple of years and we can see just how right you are?
The video said movie ticket prices would be $112 in 5-10yrs, and that video was made 3yrs ago. I remember paying then, right about what I pay now to see a movie.. Some of the food prices they referenced have gone DOWN in price!! Why did the video use food, a commodity whose price is heavily influenced by weather, seasons, immigration, gas prices ect... to illustrate HUGE inflation rate? Why not something more stable and concrete, I mean, the price food practically varies day to day like gas...
So what's your guess? How is this collapse going to make itself apparent to even me; the most optimistic of people?
http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/current-inflation-rates/
Why did they make the video in 2009, and not 2007 when inflation was noticeably higher? And why is it that inflation is only 3/10ths higher now than it was when they made this video that was full of exponential inflation graphs and what-have-you suggesting inflation would in reality be, much higher right now?
I'm not being a smart ass, you obviously have a pretty good idea of why you believe what you do.. So im truly curious about how all of these things are perceived by you.
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Re: Getting into Debt; with NO INTENTION of paying it back... bad idea? [Re: Anonymous #1]
#15809906 - 02/14/12 06:01 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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cateyes said:
if you own no assets that could be garnished and a credit card company was stupid enough to grant you a line of credit worthy of wrecking your credit over then by all means prepare for the coming collapse because i give it a year past inauguration before things are completely obvious to even the staunchest of optimists...
K~~~
How bout you be a little more specific, so I can bump this thread in a couple of years and we can see just how right you are?
The video said movie ticket prices would be $112 in 5-10yrs, and that video was made 3yrs ago. I remember paying then, right about what I pay now to see a movie.. Some of the food prices they referenced have gone DOWN in price!! Why did the video use food, a commodity whose price is heavily influenced by weather, seasons, immigration, gas prices ect... to illustrate HUGE inflation rate? Why not something more stable and concrete, I mean, the price food practically varies day to day like gas...
So what's your guess? How is this collapse going to make itself apparent to even me; the most optimistic of people?
http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/current-inflation-rates/
Why did they make the video in 2009, and not 2007 when inflation was noticeably higher? And why is it that inflation is only 3/10ths higher now than it was when they made this video that was full of exponential inflation graphs and what-have-you suggesting inflation would in reality be, much higher right now?
I'm not being a smart ass, you obviously have a pretty good idea of why you believe what you do.. So im truly curious about how all of these things are perceived by you.
this here poster is beyond the pale hilarious!!!! they believe in their position so strongly they posted anonymously!!!! don't use a stupid analogy of movie tickets to ease your weary mind bro and try to discredit my argument... 3 weeks ago my wife and i took a receipt from 2 1/2 years ago for a shopping trip to PathMark, which is one of the larger mass food stores in my area and we only purchased the foods that weren't on sale then and weren't on sale that Saturday and were left dozens of products and paid an additional 67% today from less the 3 years ago!!! i promised a great economist here that i would work out inflation figures, well this is part of what i've been able to come up with since things have been so busy for me i haven't even had the time to look up BIDU for geokills as a short target... but i did discover that uranium has gone up over 24% since Obama took office and gasoline has certainly gone up although i haven't calculated all of these numbers exactly because of a lack of time... so why don't you do me a favor as i work on these numbers Mr i believe in my bullshit so much i post anonymously!!! you actually buy that the inflation figures we read are real? do even eat? do you fill your car? why did Greenspan remove food and energy from the inflation equation? they include it when they calculate inflation in China!!! if they can use the cost of food and energy to calculate inflation in China why isn't it part of the inflation equation here? i think inflation is being pegged at 8% or so in China at the moment... real inflation figures... i'm not even going to expand on it any further with you merely because you had no faith in your own argument... you had to post anonymously out of fear how ridiculous you seem... be optimistic! i'm optimistic enough because every single thing i own is paid for. i own 2 homes, one in new jersey and one in washington state... 40+ acres in Arizona, i'm sitting on 1100 pounds of silver since 2006... stock in HOG and JNJ since 1993... my shit is golden! i have other shit too, including guns!!! and i have an awesome job i can take anywhere in the world because my company is located everywhere in the world...
so why don't you continue trying to rationalize why everything not included in the inflation index has risen dramatically and in two years from now you can resurrect this post and we'll talk about how great things are at that point, OK sport!?! OK Mr hide behind anonymity to to the degree they're trying to discredit me!!! Mr optimistic!!!  i think cotton is up over 150% right now... it may be more, it may be less as i really didn't crunch those numbers yet.. but ohh wait just one minute!!!! the weather wasn't cooperating!!!!
the dollar is rapidly becoming a piece of toilet paper... no one wants to trade on the dollar... shit!!! every wealthy US citizens have the wealth invested in other currencies the vast majority of time now... nobody wants the dollar and eventually oil will no longer be traded on the dollar... why is oil so expensive at a time of overall economic slow down?
i can't hear you!!! it's very WEIRD that in your own example you used the cost of energy as a reason why food prices go up... in that single sentence you admit that food has gone up and that it was because energy has gone up!!!! i'm sorry man but i've given you way too much attention as it is as you have so little faith in your own argument that you post anon... i mean really dude... what is wrong with this picture? i'll do my best to try and post my inflation figures... i've already posted real unemployment figures in someone else's thread and everyone ignored my post... even the magazine the economist has unemployment at 15-16% but even they fail to include an important group who have fallen off of the radar completely... but you being an optimist, you buy into the drop that has been occurring as if it were actually real!!! what are these numbers? these employment numbers?
what are you coin collector? i hope you didn't buy the monopoly golden collectors edition too!!! that shit sold for like $600.00 and sells for less the $150.00 dollars on eBay today... so much for collectible value going up... i mention this because you provided me the cpi-u bullshit illusion from a coin website as if i'm supposed to believe it! that index is perverse to say the least whether posted on a coin website or an actual government website... enough of this bullshit as i need to take the dogs for a walk and need a break from your brilliance... i'm blinded now...
K~~~
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