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The Lord is my Shepherd; I shall not want.
He maketh me to lie down in green pastures:
He leadeth me beside the still waters.
He restoreth my soul:
He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for His name' sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil: For thou art with me;
Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.
Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies;
Thou annointest my head with oil; My cup runneth over.

Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the House of the Lord forever.

-Psalm 23

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The Chronic said:
You can do NOTHING to make it stop, surrender biatch

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Part of the reason I don't venture into the 'Psychedelic Experience' forum is because much of the discussion seems to be around gamesmanship - this is especially true of the newer members.

On higher (aka, sufficient) doses, there is no imprinting the experience with a cute little mental preparation or analysis. McKenna was fond of saying, 'you don't take the mushrooms, they take you.' People who go in with expectations usually get smacked in the face (a television in an adjacent room just had a character say, "did you just spank me!?" as I typed this). Similarly, as you said in terms of control, trying to wrestle and push the event in one way or another is just going to spiral into a loop of fear and anxiety. 

It's old hat, that goofy question of "what should I do?"

It's the death trap of pickup lines for men and women, the death of spirituality, the death of job interviews, the death of even trying to fall asleep. You don't try to fall asleep. You fucking give in to it. I know I'm preaching to the choir, it's just irksome at times.

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venetianblinds said:
one time i asked for salvia to be good to me, and "she" was

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Jessica Swift said:
It's old hat, that goofy question of "what should I do?"

It's the death trap of pickup lines for men and women, the death of spirituality, the death of job interviews, the death of even trying to fall asleep. You don't try to fall asleep. You fucking give in to it. I know I'm preaching to the choir, it's just irksome at times.

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I like this alot, its applying the 'spiritual' truth of non-doing to daily life situations, showing how we can rob ourselves of our own intuitive spontaneity through worrying about 'what am i gonna do?' in any given situation

Just like that caterpillar we trip ourselves up

How great it is to not worry about what you are going to do, to not worry about anything at all
Not worrying about 'what to do' gives the mind no foothold in the future, so it remains simply present
What a burden to unload

“Seeking but not finding the house builder I travelled through life after life.
How painful is repeated birth!
House-builders, you have now been seen.
You will not build the house again”

Just felt like posting that

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Wiccan_Seeker said:
Is there? What are your bad trips about and what do you use?

My bad trips usually revolve around acute death anxiety, being afraid to die at that moment and time.

Last year, during a roll on 6-APB I accepted Jesus Christ in my heart when I was overcome with bliss. Mere hours later I needed him badly as I took what I assumed was NDAI but in reality was 300mg MDPV, a walloping life threatening overdose, was treated to a wailing ambulance ride to the ER where I quite literally fought for my life with every fiber of my body, so overcome that I voluntarily let my pee run free on the ER stretcher because I needed all my willpower to fight death, and couldnt spare a bit of energy for proper urination.

It was profoundly shitty and a turning point in my life.

Ever since I've been letting some Christian mythos into my life.

When I now face annihilation peril, I recite Psalm 23:

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The Lord is my Shepherd; I shall not want.
He maketh me to lie down in green pastures:
He leadeth me beside the still waters.
He restoreth my soul:
He leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for His name' sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
I will fear no evil: For thou art with me;
Thy rod and thy staff, they comfort me.
Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies;
Thou annointest my head with oil; My cup runneth over.

Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life,
and I will dwell in the House of the Lord forever.

-Psalm 23

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The last line is the kicker for me, and the greatest comfort: "and I will dwell in the House of the Lord forever." which to me means that whether I live or die, I always will be infinitely connected with this Universe and that though my body may be erased, the Laws of the Universe that gave rise to my soul remain eternal, because since this universe contains all time within it, it truly is Eternal.

I believe that since I view this cosmos as Eternal, so will my soul be, and like all things, it shall be given life forever and ever in every possible way.

Picture a lone proton drifting through space asking itself "Am I alone in the universe?" But no! the incarnations of the Proton are many and a staggereing number of them coexist at any given time. Some are destroyed, some newly formed, an eternal (re)cycle. I believe that this is how it is with you and me too, our soul will forever end up in every possible body in every possible life, as the Lottery of the Universe will forever draw numbers. When your number comes up, you are given life or its taken from you.

Thats what "and I will dwell in the House of the Lord forever." means to me, and what makes Psalm 23 so relevant for me, it invites to put faith in the process of the Cosmos.

Not exactly as the bible intends it of cours, but far more soothing for my modern rational mind than eternal reward or damnation.

You! What prayer, mantra or phrase do you use when the going gets rough in a trip, and what for?

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phrenology101 said:
i was listening to a terence mckenna lecture once and he said something about singing out loud turn a bad trip around. i've never done this, so i don't know if it works. i have had lots of what some would call "bad trips", but just because something isn't fun doesn't mean it's bad. "bad trips" teach us important lessons.

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phrenology101 said:
i was listening to a terence mckenna lecture once and he said something about singing out loud turn a bad trip around. i've never done this, so i don't know if it works. i have had lots of what some would call "bad trips", but just because something isn't fun doesn't mean it's bad. "bad trips" teach us important lessons.

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