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 deCypher
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 Re: My first "Mystical" experience [Re: Galidor4]
#15788567 - 02/10/12 01:19 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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"All is One" doesn't necessarily mean that the many are identical, though.
Well, I didn't say that, I said we are all Us, there for we are the same, but being identical and being the same are- in terms of synonyms for similar- very different.
Aren't identical and being the same synonyms? How are you differentiating between the two? 
Identical infers being completely the same, inside and out, it's a very specific word. It's really all about the specificity of the word. They may mean generally the same thing but if they completely, inside and out, meant the same thing, why would we have separate words.
So... first you're saying that being identical and being the same are "very different"; now you're saying that they generally mean the same thing. Which is it? Oh, and we have plenty of words in the English language that mean the same thing... that's the joy of synonyms. 
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Re: My first "Mystical" experience [Re: deCypher]
#15792729 - 02/11/12 12:29 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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Definition of Identical: similar or alike in every way
Definition of Same: being one or identical though having different names, aspects
If all synonymous words meant exactly the same thing through and through, there wouldn't be synonyms. However, that is not the case, we have words with similar meanings that are directed towards some kind of specific aspect.
This is stuff I learned in like what? 5th grade? Remember learning the difference between there, their and they're, same word, different meanings.
And since they are not IDENTICAL they are different, they're close to IDENTICAL but they are not.
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Re: My first "Mystical" experience [Re: Galidor4]
#15793628 - 02/11/12 04:00 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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Ummm...
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Definition of Identical: similar or alike in every way
Definition of Same: being one or identical though having different names, aspects
Sure looks like these words can be used interchangeably to me. Example: Josh looks identical to Sam. Josh looks the same as Sam. No change of meaning was produced by substituting one synonym for the other.
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Re: My first "Mystical" experience [Re: deCypher]
#15796126 - 02/12/12 02:14 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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Well I'm sorry your education in vocabulary is lacking.
Have you ever tried a psychoactive before? It opens your mind up to new ways of thinking, you should try it sometime.
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Re: My first "Mystical" experience [Re: Galidor4] 1
#15796133 - 02/12/12 02:17 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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Re: My first "Mystical" experience [Re: deCypher]
#15805540 - 02/13/12 08:05 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Ummm...
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Definition of Identical: similar or alike in every way
Definition of Same: being one or identical though having different names, aspects
Sure looks like these words can be used interchangeably to me. Example: Josh looks identical to Sam. Josh looks the same as Sam. No change of meaning was produced by substituting one synonym for the other.
Josh looks identical to Sam. Josh looks the same as Sam.
Josh looks the same as Sam is very different from Josh looks identical to Sam, the latter infers that they may be wearing the same clothes or have the same hair, hell they could be identical twins (in the sense of the same egg) but they only look alike, they are not completely identical because of the fact that they have differing aspects to them- their personalities, the way the perceive and interpret the world around them. People can't be as identical as say a pair of oranges can be, we were made too complex. The former, infers no differing aspects.
That was the context in which I was inferring.
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