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pirate099
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when to give up?
#15803412 - 02/13/12 01:49 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

Been waiting 9 days for pinning to occur and still nothing. At what point should i just give up? yes they're fully colonized and the conditions are right.

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Re: when to give up? [Re: pirate099]
#15803432 - 02/13/12 01:54 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

when it dries like a brick , mold grows or it smells of mildew .... thats when.

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Re: when to give up? [Re: skuzzy1232]
#15803440 - 02/13/12 01:55 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

Wait AT LEAST 2 full weeks before even thinking about getting rid of them, and even then, wait a third week.

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Re: when to give up? [Re: Bawks]
#15803447 - 02/13/12 01:56 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

never give up! lol

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Re: when to give up? [Re: skuzzy1232]
#15803452 - 02/13/12 01:57 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

My thoughts exactly.

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Re: when to give up? [Re: skuzzy1232]
#15803459 - 02/13/12 01:58 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

well i don't want to wait until they mold or something due to the fact that i have heard of using the colonized cakes in juice. if they won't pin i'd at least like to be able to try this out

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Re: when to give up? [Re: pirate099]
#15803470 - 02/13/12 02:02 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

12/12 light, FAE, and humidity should do it

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Re: when to give up? [Re: OrangeSunshine]
#15803487 - 02/13/12 02:06 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

yes yes, the redundancy on this site is baffling. theory and practice are two different things. i'm more or less looking for someone who has ran into this problem before.

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Re: when to give up? [Re: pirate099]
#15803532 - 02/13/12 02:17 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

Anyone who has run into this problem before was told the same exact things as you have been told in this thread. We can't grow them for you so we can only suggest what you should be doing. Which is a 12/12 light cycle, fanning as often as you can, making sure your mycelium doesn't dry out, maintaining proper humidity, and patience.

9 days? Shit I waited 23 days once before I saw a pin. You can't make them grow, but you can assist them. They work on their own time.

Are we talking cakes here?

MS or iso?

SGFC have 1/4" holes 2" apart on all six sides with 4" or so of perlite.

Do you have bricks or something under your SGFC to raise it up and allow airflow?

Did you let you cakes sit and consolidate for at least a week after 100% colonization?

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Re: when to give up? [Re: pirate099]
#15803543 - 02/13/12 02:19 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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pirate099 said:
yes yes, the redundancy on this site is baffling. theory and practice are two different things. i'm more or less looking for someone who has ran into this problem before.

your kidding right ,, every grower worth there salt who have grown has had a delayed pinning , of course its all comes down to opinion weather its delayed or not .... two weeks is considered all right ,

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Re: when to give up? [Re: skuzzy1232]
#15803549 - 02/13/12 02:20 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

so i would say everyone who has grown is qualified to give you a response

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Re: when to give up? [Re: skuzzy1232]
#15803561 - 02/13/12 02:23 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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skuzzy1232 said:
never give up! lol

Never surrender!!

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Re: when to give up? [Re: skuzzy1232]
#15803566 - 02/13/12 02:24 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

You only need one thread for this man.

Since you mentioned it in this thread - don't juice your cakes. Give them ample opportunity to fruit. They will, and the active alkaloid content of the cake won't be considerable until after the mycelium has fruited anyway.

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Re: when to give up? [Re: Wing]
#15803572 - 02/13/12 02:25 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

23 days? ok cool, timelines are my interest right now. my conditions are perfect in the chamber.

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Re: when to give up? [Re: VC_Skittles]
#15803582 - 02/13/12 02:27 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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VC_Skittles said:
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skuzzy1232 said:
never give up! lol

Never surrender!!

thank you lol i thought no one would ! damn lol

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Re: when to give up? [Re: pirate099]
#15803587 - 02/13/12 02:29 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

Just stick with it dude. Mist very lightly and then fan the shit out of them. You're bound to get some pinnage soon.

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Re: when to give up? [Re: skuzzy1232]
#15803592 - 02/13/12 02:30 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

ok well that's more along the lines of what i'm looking for. there's a million and a half threads on conditions and how to grow. so it does get rather annoying hearing the same thing a million times instead of getting a straight answer.

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Re: when to give up? [Re: pirate099]
#15803615 - 02/13/12 02:35 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

Edit: Got a better look at the small pictures in your other thread. Ignore this post, tho it's still relevant to people with this issue and question.

You get so irked at the answer...

... But are you so sure you didn't need it??
From looking at your other thread on this, I can't say you don't.

Your pictures show a poor and incomplete fruiting chamber.
I'm quite sure they're not getting the air they need.
They may very well "think" they're still invitro.

Sure, they may pin and fruit anyway, but continually improve and fine-tune your conditions, and watch their performance and speed shoot through the roof of your expectations.

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Re: when to give up? [Re: pirate099]
#15803623 - 02/13/12 02:37 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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pirate099 said:
ok well that's more along the lines of what i'm looking for. there's a million and a half threads on conditions and how to grow. so it does get rather annoying hearing the same thing a million times instead of getting a straight answer.

You only asked "At what point should I just give up?"
You didn't ask for suggestions, tips, ANYTHING. You included that "the conditions are right." There's nothing else to tell you other than to keep waiting. After ~4 weeks you'll probably want to throw them out.

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Re: when to give up? [Re: Bawks]
#15803648 - 02/13/12 02:42 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

"At what point should i give up" is a question capable of a definite answer. it's not rhetorical. the question is for a time i.e. 2-4weeks after birthing.

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Re: when to give up? [Re: pirate099]
#15803654 - 02/13/12 02:43 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

your a new person on here PM,,ask me for spores you live in cali then i tell you i cant risk it because of my large grows but give you necessary info on how to acquire said spores and you turn around and say , good luck im sure your grow will bring you alot of feds.
beg somewhere else NARC!

YOU REALLY GONNA GET PISSED CAUSE I CANT GIVE YOU FREE SHIT ,,, YOU WILL NOT LAST HERE.

Edited by skuzzy1232 (02/13/12 02:45 PM)

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Re: when to give up? [Re: pirate099]
#15803663 - 02/13/12 02:45 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

Unfortunately, it is indeed NOT a question capable of a definite answer. You may want one, but you're the only person who's in the right circumstance to tell...

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Re: when to give up? [Re: skuzzy1232]
#15803677 - 02/13/12 02:48 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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skuzzy1232 said:
your a new person on here PM,,ask me for spores you live in cali then i tell you i cant risk it because of my large grows but give you necessary info on how to acquire said spores and you turn around and say , good luck im sure your grow will bring you alot of feds.
beg somewhere else NARC!

YOU REALLY GONNA GET PISSED CAUSE I CANT GIVE YOU FREE SHIT ,,, YOU WILL NOT LAST HERE.

what the hell are you talking about?

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Re: when to give up? [Re: pirate099]
#15803683 - 02/13/12 02:50 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

9 days is not long at all. I've waited 3 weeks before. You'll be fine.

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Re: when to give up? [Re: Violet]
#15803688 - 02/13/12 02:51 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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Violet said:
Unfortunately, it is indeed NOT a question capable of a definite answer. You may want one, but you're the only person who's in the right circumstance to tell...

well for it to be incapable definite answer, i seemed to have collected several definite answers. 4+ weeks is pretty definite

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Re: when to give up? [Re: pirate099]
#15803696 - 02/13/12 02:53 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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pirate099 said:
"At what point should i give up" is a question capable of a definite answer. it's not rhetorical. the question is for a time i.e. 2-4weeks after birthing.

Well, I gave you two answers. I said to wait at least 2 full weeks before getting worried and throw them out after 4 weeks. If you've met all these conditions there isn't much else you can do. :shrug:

If the conditions are right then I'm assuming you:
- let the mycelium consolidate for 1 full week before birthing
- submerged the cakes in water for a full 24 hours
- then rolled them in dry verm
- are misting and fanning the cakes properly
- Using a shotgun fc
- Giving the cakes light for 12 hours each day
- Rinsed and strained the perlite that you are using in your fc
- Using 3-5 inches of perlite
- and the temperature is in the mid 70s (fahrenheit)

Edited by Bawks (02/13/12 02:55 PM)

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Re: when to give up? [Re: J-baller]
#15803699 - 02/13/12 02:53 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

oh fuck mistake dont judge lol retracted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

for everyones info it was pip8pop who pmd me too many windows were open sorry

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Re: when to give up? [Re: Bawks]
#15803712 - 02/13/12 02:55 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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Bawks said:
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pirate099 said:
"At what point should i give up" is a question capable of a definite answer. it's not rhetorical. the question is for a time i.e. 2-4weeks after birthing.

Well, I gave you two answers. I said to wait at least 2 full weeks before getting worried and throw them out after 4 weeks. If you've met all these conditions there isn't much else you can do.

If the conditions are right then I'm assuming you:
- You let the mycelium consolidate for 1 full week before birthing
- submerged the cakes in water for a full 24 hours
- then rolled them in dry verm
- are misting and fanning the cakes properly
- Using a shotgun fc
- Giving the cakes light for 12 hours each day
- Rinsed and strained the perlite that you are using in your fc
- Using 3-5 inches of perlite
- and the temperature is in the mid 70s (fahrenheit)

correct all conditions are met, thank you

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Re: when to give up? [Re: skuzzy1232]
#15803717 - 02/13/12 02:56 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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skuzzy1232 said:
oh fuck mistake dont judge lol retracted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

for everyones info it was pip8pop who pmd me too many windows were open sorry

lol it's cool

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Re: when to give up? [Re: pirate099]
#15803726 - 02/13/12 02:57 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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pirate099 said:
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Violet said:
Unfortunately, it is indeed NOT a question capable of a definite answer. You may want one, but you're the only person who's in the right circumstance to tell...

well for it to be incapable definite answer, i seemed to have collected several definite answers. 4+ weeks is pretty definite

Lol @ that.

If you got several differing answers, it's not definite... But whatever. Enjoy being so easily annoyed by the Internet.

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Re: when to give up? [Re: Bawks]
#15804441 - 02/13/12 05:10 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

we were fanning too much- overly concerned about FAE- and killing our humidity. after we stopped opening the FC so many times a day, we started having success after 3 days.

its takes time but once it works it's worth all the work!

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