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 ChuckBerry
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 First grow progressing very slowly; even after a month the jars are less than half colonized (Pics). 
#15803194 - 02/13/12 01:05 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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I used B+ spores with the PF tek. I inoculated 3 jars somewhere near a month ago and noticed the progress was moving very slowly. I have my jars in a compartment behind a drawer for stealth reasons, so no light gets to them (is that a problem?). They are kept at correct temperatures. I had left the tinfoil on the lids until i found out that could prohibit proper gas exchange, so I took it off 3 days ago. Whether or not that was the only problem I don't know yet. My question is am i doing anything else wrong?
This jar is the most developed but the others are similar.
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 Re: First grow progressing very slowly; even after a month the jars are less than half colonized (Pics). [Re: ChuckBerry]
#15803209 - 02/13/12 01:08 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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What size jars are you using? From the pics, the jars look to be bigger than a 1/2 pint. 1 month is approximate full colonization of a 1/2 pint jar. If you are using a jar bigger then that, then it will take longer. And i think it may have been a bad idea to uncover them....I think they should be concealed (air tight) until the cakes are ready to enter the terrarium.
Edited by pjg1174 (02/13/12 01:12 PM)
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Re: First grow progressing very slowly; even after a month the jars are less than half colonized (Pics). [Re: pjg1174]
#15803216 - 02/13/12 01:10 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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No it's 1/2 pint just the tall kind not the wide.
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Re: First grow progressing very slowly; even after a month the jars are less than half colonized (Pics). [Re: pjg1174]
#15803221 - 02/13/12 01:10 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Packing it (the substrate) tight can also slow down growth. I hear it took 2 weeks to see the beginning of growth once because the jars were initially packed.
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Re: First grow progressing very slowly; even after a month the jars are less than half colonized (Pics). [Re: pjg1174]
#15803229 - 02/13/12 01:12 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Those are some giant inoculation holes. Your jars may have stalled.
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Re: First grow progressing very slowly; even after a month the jars are less than half colonized (Pics). [Re: HighTek]
#15803261 - 02/13/12 01:17 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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@HighTek
I don't think thats the problem because i was very careful not to pack it down.
Should i loosen my lid or even take it off to help with gas exchange and moisture content. I forgot to mention that i didn't put the tinfoil lids on my jars before sterilizing them so i was worried about my moisture content. Just by looking at it i thought everything was okay because water wasn't pooling on the bottom but maybe i was wrong.
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Re: First grow progressing very slowly; even after a month the jars are less than half colonized (Pics). [Re: Evil Toadstool]
#15803273 - 02/13/12 01:19 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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@Evil Toadstool
There is tape on the other side of the holes with a smaller hole in it. Growth hasn't stopped completely just moving very slowly.
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Re: First grow progressing very slowly; even after a month the jars are less than half colonized (Pics). [Re: pjg1174]
#15803290 - 02/13/12 01:23 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Quote:
pjg1174 said:
I think they should be concealed (air tight) until the cakes are ready to enter the terrarium.
Negative, don't suffocate your cakes. You want some GE.
And chuck, your holes are -more- than adequate for GE.
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Edited by SleepAid (02/13/12 01:25 PM)
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Re: First grow progressing very slowly; even after a month the jars are less than half colonized (Pics). [Re: SleepAid]
#15803314 - 02/13/12 01:28 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Quote:
SleepAid said:
Quote:
pjg1174 said:
I think they should be concealed (air tight) until the cakes are ready to enter the terrarium.
Negative, don't suffocate your cakes. You want some GE.
And chuck, your holes are -more- than adequate for GE.
But the holes are not as big as the appear. I really only have a hole as big as the needle i used to inoculate. The holes have tape under them with the smaller holes on the tape. Is there still enough gas exchange?
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Re: First grow progressing very slowly; even after a month the jars are less than half colonized (Pics). [Re: ChuckBerry]
#15803349 - 02/13/12 01:35 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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You don't need the tape there after you've PC'd your jars. The dry verm layer you should have put on top of your substrate will act as a wall against contams, if thats what you're worrying about.
wait, did you say you have tape on the inside of your lid? Why on earth did you put it on the inside?
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Edited by SleepAid (02/13/12 01:39 PM)
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Re: First grow progressing very slowly; even after a month the jars are less than half colonized (Pics). [Re: SleepAid]
#15803374 - 02/13/12 01:40 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Quote:
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You don't need the tape there after you've PC'd your jars. The dry verm layer you should have put on top of your substrate will act as a wall against contams.
wait, did you say you have tape on the inside of your lid? Why on earth did you put it on the inside?
Lol not quite sure, just a stupid first timer mistake. So since the tape is on the bottom should i unscrew the lid and take it off?
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Re: First grow progressing very slowly; even after a month the jars are less than half colonized (Pics). [Re: ChuckBerry]
#15806164 - 02/13/12 10:04 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Sorry I got called into work for something... I mean, I would strongly recommend not opening your jars until they're fully colonized and you're taking your cakes out to put in your fc, but hold up.
GE might not be your problem here man, I was rereading your original post- how long did you leave that tinfoil on for dude? Leaving that on after you PC your jars (or your inside tape dealio) can trap in moisture and keep that dry vermiculite layer I was talking about earlier damp, which makes it pretty much useless as a filter and leaves your substrate susceptible to bacteria.
So, You could try getting something sterile to poke a bigger hole in the tape so you don't have to take the lid off and just leave it the fuck alone for a while if you want, just keep in mind that GE might not be the problem. Do you notice any smells coming from your jars?
I'm no guru about this shit by any means, but this is what i noticed.
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Edited by SleepAid (02/13/12 10:14 PM)
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Re: First grow progressing very slowly; even after a month the jars are less than half colonized (Pics). [Re: SleepAid]
#15809159 - 02/14/12 04:04 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Quote:
SleepAid said:
Sorry I got called into work for something... I mean, I would strongly recommend not opening your jars until they're fully colonized and you're taking your cakes out to put in your fc, but hold up.
GE might not be your problem here man, I was rereading your original post- how long did you leave that tinfoil on for dude? Leaving that on after you PC your jars (or your inside tape dealio) can trap in moisture and keep that dry vermiculite layer I was talking about earlier damp, which makes it pretty much useless as a filter and leaves your substrate susceptible to bacteria.
So, You could try getting something sterile to poke a bigger hole in the tape so you don't have to take the lid off and just leave it the fuck alone for a while if you want, just keep in mind that GE might not be the problem. Do you notice any smells coming from your jars?
I'm no guru about this shit by any means, but this is what i noticed.
I did this yesterday, guess it was a good thing I didn't take the lids off. I don't notice any smells but thanks for your help.
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Re: First grow progressing very slowly; even after a month the jars are less than half colonized (Pics). [Re: ChuckBerry]
#15809384 - 02/14/12 04:42 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Did you get the spores from a trusted source?
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- PF Tek with non-sponsor multispore to shotgun box
- contaminated PK cake chopped up with non-sterile knife then thrown under a damp piece of cardboard in a box outside for a few days (super fast, strong myc growth on the cardboard)
 Gutters:
- non-sponsor multispore to sponsor grain bag (nuthin', absolutely nuthin')
- non-sponsor multispore to sponsor in vitro grow bag (1 bag yellow contam, 5 bags nuthin', bank account stalled)
- non-sponsor multispore to baby bottle LC (nuthin')
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Re: First grow progressing very slowly; even after a month the jars are less than half colonized (Pics). [Re: MettaNaut]
#15809564 - 02/14/12 05:10 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Some of my jars just finished colonizing from a month and a half ago cause I had mine in a drawer with foil on a soon as I took the foil off and out of the drawer ( I don't know if out of the drawer makes a difference I did cause it made me feel beter for fae) but it finished in a week and a half
I think yours will finish up within the next two weeks
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and druggied down
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