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 Not Quite Social
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 The Arsenal of Freedom
#15802353 - 02/13/12 09:38 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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RE: The FAA Reauthorization Act
Who likes this? Do conservatives like this legislation? Do liberals like this? How is this legislation understandable? Maybe congress is just trying to be more informed, more representative of the people by knowing exactly what's going on in everyone's backyard, and through everyone's walls (http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/18/mit-researchers-devise-see-through-wall-technology/)?
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Congress has just passed a bill, the FAA Reauthorization Act, mandating that the Federal Aviation Administration create a comprehensive program for the integration of drone technology into the national air space by 2015. The FAA predicts that there will be 30,000 drones crisscrossing the skies of America by 2020, all part of an industry that could be worth hundreds of millions of dollars per year. This mandate is yet another example of the political power of the military-industrial complex, Congress’ disdain for the privacy of American citizens, and the rampant growth of government. With this single piece of legislation, Congress is opening the floodgates to an entirely new era of surveillance, one in which no person is safe from the prying eyes of the government. This may prove to be the final nail in the Fourth Amendment’s coffin.
http://njtoday.net/2012/02/13/dawn-of-the-drones-the-realization-of-the-total-surveillance-state/#ixzz1mHZEcB9U
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Not Quite Social said:
RE: The FAA Reauthorization Act
Who likes this? Do conservatives like this legislation? Do liberals like this? How is this legislation understandable? Maybe congress is just trying to be more informed, more representative of the people by knowing exactly what's going on in everyone's backyard, and through everyone's walls (http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/18/mit-researchers-devise-see-through-wall-technology/)?
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Congress has just passed a bill, the FAA Reauthorization Act, mandating that the Federal Aviation Administration create a comprehensive program for the integration of drone technology into the national air space by 2015. The FAA predicts that there will be 30,000 drones crisscrossing the skies of America by 2020, all part of an industry that could be worth hundreds of millions of dollars per year. This mandate is yet another example of the political power of the military-industrial complex, Congress’ disdain for the privacy of American citizens, and the rampant growth of government. With this single piece of legislation, Congress is opening the floodgates to an entirely new era of surveillance, one in which no person is safe from the prying eyes of the government. This may prove to be the final nail in the Fourth Amendment’s coffin.
http://njtoday.net/2012/02/13/dawn-of-the-drones-the-realization-of-the-total-surveillance-state/#ixzz1mHZEcB9U
Why not?
We should be able to fly pilotless aircraft, and when there are a shit-ton of them, they might benefit somehow from some protocols or standards somehow... It should be beneficial at least to the same degree that similar regulations covering piloted aircraft are beneficial....
What's the big deal. Do you think we shouldn't be able to fly pilotless aircraft?
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Re: The Arsenal of Freedom [Re: ChuangTzu]
#15805371 - 02/13/12 07:38 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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What harmless reason would anyone have for remotely piloting an unmanned aircraft over my home and neighborhood? We have manned helicopters for the occassional missing kid and lost Oregon mushroom hunter. I don't want to see an FAA licensed Budweiser advertisement circling over my backyard. What are they good for? So far, drones have been equipped & used primarily for surveillance and murder.
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Among the first use of rockets was bombing London.
Now we use them for exclusively peaceful purposes.
Among the first use of computers was artillery direction.
Now we use them for everything.
Who knows what they'll use UAVs for in the future.
Maybe it'll be the new pizza delivery.
Or cell-phone-signal orbiters.
Or traffic information.
Or anything.
Jesus, who the fuck knows.
Every new technology isn't some doom-and-gloom attempt to steal your liberty.
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> Every new technology isn't some doom-and-gloom attempt to steal your liberty.
Thank you. I was waiting for somebody else say it for me.
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Re: The Arsenal of Freedom [Re: Seuss]
#15807521 - 02/14/12 08:55 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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First thing you and I have an agreed on in years.
I feel like I should go wash myself off or something.
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After one comes, through contact with it's administrators, no longer to cherish greatly the law as a remedy in abuses, then the bottle becomes a sovereign means of direct action. If you cannot throw it at least you can always drink out of it. - Ernest Hemingway
If it is life that you feel you are missing I can tell you where to find it. In the law courts, in business, in government. There is nothing occurring in the streets. Nothing but a dumbshow composed of the helpless and the impotent. -Cormac MacCarthy
He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God. - Aeschylus
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Maybe it'll be the new pizza delivery.
Sweet!
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Here's a list of the pizza companies pushing the legislation:
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The Association for Unmanned Vehicle Systems International�(AUVSI)�represents dozens of influential companies.
They include Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon, Bell Hellicopter Textron, Sikorsky Aircraft, Goodrich, General Dynamics, Honeywell, Booz Allen Hamilton, Hill & Knowlton, and many more promoting unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) drone technology.
Source: http://truthaholics.wordpress.com/2012/02/14/dronin-on-eye-in-the-sky-spying-on-americans/
Obviously it's not the technology that's problematic--RC has been around for decades. It's this new emphasis & implementation. The ACLU is trying to influence the process to prevent the easy abuses of privacy and civil liberties posed by the legislation--see here, http://www.aclu.org/technology-and-liberty/report-protecting-privacy-aerial-surveillance-recommendations-government-use
There are serious agencies pushing the legislation and serious agencies opposing it.
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Pizza delivery ...
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/check-out-texas’-new-grenade-launcher-equipped-police-drone-in-action/
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DieCommie
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I read about this the other day. I started stoned rambling to my wife about how we may see pilotless cargo flights making continental journeys in our lifetime. Awesome!
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Re: The Arsenal of Freedom [Re: DieCommie]
#15810414 - 02/14/12 07:43 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Oh ... Okay, I see now ... the proles could care less. My mistake. Carry on.
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DieCommie
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I do care, I think its great. Its about time the FAA modernize and open the airspace to unmanned vehicles.
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Re: The Arsenal of Freedom [Re: DieCommie]
#15810743 - 02/14/12 08:39 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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I appreciate your sincere enthusiasm for futuristic unmanned cargo flights. 
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DieCommie
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Among other things.
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Re: The Arsenal of Freedom [Re: DieCommie]
#15812219 - 02/15/12 05:25 AM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Of course.
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