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 Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD  [Re: Sporulator]
#15796120 - 02/12/12 02:08 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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Yes they are pre soaked pet bedding beech chips. I have got a few other tubs with mixed chips in. This tub is actually the crazy myc tub if any of you remember it
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: m-d-m-a]
#15796153 - 02/12/12 02:34 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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m-d-m-a said:
This tub is actually the crazy myc tub if any of you remember it
I do... great thread! 
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15101869#15101869
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: Sporulator]
#15798455 - 02/12/12 02:54 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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I use that same brand and very successful with myc always extremely white and healthy with zero contams.
The stuff just looks superlative creeping out through it... The harder hardwoods are meant to be better for long-term nutrients but most species seem to riproar through it amassing in an extremely virile white block of spawn.
I use 2pts size Small to one pt XL to help keeps gaps between chips minimal and aid the young myc to quick colinisation (Small is more like a grainy hardwood sawdust and 'XL' is still vastly smaller than the average woodchip you would get elsewhere).
Looks you've opted for the XL there mdma am I right?
And what is your soak tek? My 'bring to the boil then off and steep for an hour' tek didn't go down too well last time with the lingering alien smell emitted around the place...  
Pondering a 12-24 hour cold soak with a dash of bleach (though certain these chips clean as whistle -they even say so "for your pets health")
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: UK Explorer]
#15801139 - 02/12/12 11:23 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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They are the chipsii xxl ukexplorer. I have got some aspen shavings that are used for snakesmwhich seems to be doing well. Im gonna mix up some beech chips and aspen shavings on my next tub and see how it goes. I just bring them to the boil for about half hour then run under the cold tap in a colinder then let sit for an hour or over night is better then mix up with the substrate/stembutt whichever. I am pretty sure these chips are sterile like you say as it says they are kiln dried so would imagine removing all the mlisture would remove any germs/bugs
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 Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: UK Explorer]
#15802436 - 02/13/12 10:08 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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I've had some issues with expanding Ps. Cy. on card (egg box) onto Chipsi chips (50:50 small/large), even though I PC'd my chips for about 30 mins, within 3 days I had small white threads on top of most of my chips, looked a bit like the beginning of cobweb. This was incubating at room temp.
I have since moved the chips to the loft, and the fluff has gone away. However on one or two of the chips there is a tiny blob or two of something green, and I chuck those individual chips out when I see them. At least now the myc appears to be muching into the chips near the cardboard and is finally taking off.
Now, given what has been said about the cleanliness of these chips, I am thinking it is more likely these possible contams came from the small uncolonised bits of card. I was not happy with the growth rate on the card, and in one case the myc appeared to have died (it had turned yellow/orange and smelt funny, I cut all that away and chucked it). It took about 1 month for even half of the egg box "wells" to get colonised, much slower than I've seen on this forum.
As a backup I've ordered a couple of syringes and plan to innoc to WBS, get that fully colonised and then decide where to go from there, either transfer to chips or expand more on card and then to chips. Just hope it's not too late in the year now to start from spores!
PS I had one eggbox well that was slower than the all the rest, so I practically gave up on it. On this one, I shoved in a load of boiled (not PC'd) of the "small" chips. To my surprise today there is now myc coming through the top - in about 10 days it's made its way though about an inch of these. I therefore think I'll be adding a higher ratio of small chips for initial expansion in the future!
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: ACorvus]
#15804971 - 02/13/12 06:31 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Small chips rock for the initial takeoff! 
Sorry to hear about your troubles and woes ACorvus, I had many teething problems my first time, just a case of trial and error until find what seems to work for you and then expanding from there.
Sounds like an outside contam to your chips indeed, but I wouldn't worry too much about the light cobweb appearance stuff -seems to happen a lot and myc carries on unabated. There has even been debate whether this could be an initial scouting network for the mycelium instead of a mould!
Everything put in my loft has always severley contaminated... but house is an old one.
I too had real slow progress with cardboard but the myc went into mass expansion mode as soon as chips were added on top -did this before cardboard fully colinised after reading of the likes of wiscokid's 'straight to chip' ideals and it was the best move I ever made. There was no way I would have built enough myc for first season fruits if had waited out the cardboard.
As for the planned 'from spore' projects, you could just hit the timeframe -the key is to keep additional substrate low when putting out. Instead of the up to 1:20 spawn to substrate ratio the guides ellude to go as low 1:2 and you may get lucky first time around.
If not, it will still be there waiting for the season after.... 
Nice work by the way MD, interesting about the aspen as I read a fair bit in places that it didn't work great in similar projects. I'm starting to believe these woodlovers will almost anything you put before them though, wood or otherwise!
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: UK Explorer]
#15806147 - 02/13/12 10:00 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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The cyans are beasts, the myc will even eat away at certain types of stone. The cyans do want to colonize all suitable substrate putting down a dense mat before they fruit, usually . 2:1 is a good way to go, and the earlier the better, I try to get new beds down as the season is winding down in a attempt to encourage introduced myc to pick up life at a point where it will have a chance to go through the spectrum of seasons along the same timeline as a spore that may have been dropped and germinated that season.
As far as azures go we will see but they seem to put a bit more emphasis on spore production than building a myclial mat to the extent of the cyans. Which ties into my theory that azures will likely be much easier to fruit year 1 in newly installed gardens than cyans are. Its going to be an amazing fall mushroom people.
Keep up the great work everyone!
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: UK Explorer]
#15807265 - 02/14/12 07:04 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Thanks Explorer,
When you say spawn 1:2 ratio to substrate, do you mean the grain spawn direct to outdoor sub. or indoor chips (expanded from the grain) to final sub.?
I can imagine if I mixed grain 1:2 with my final outdoor substrate that every rodent for 20 miles would just swarm in and rape my beds :-(
And I can't imagine the large group of portly wood pigeons I see every day are that discriminating about what's growing on lovely tasty WBS.
Cheers
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: ACorvus]
#15807851 - 02/14/12 10:34 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Once you have myc on grains put a few grains in a tub with some wood chip. Once the chips get colonised chuck out the grain and carry on with the chips. Then the grain jar..... Go scatter it on some wood chip beds in your area. 
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: m-d-m-a]
#15807927 - 02/14/12 10:56 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Cool, cheers. That's what I thought, couldn't imagine any bed with 33% seed lasting 5 minutes after you turn your back!
Many thanks.
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: m-d-m-a]
#15813993 - 02/15/12 02:09 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Just a question -
I was walking through a park today and came across a woodchipped rosebed in the process of being cleaned up. There were quite a few lumps of myc in there so I grabbed one and stuffed it in a jar with some slightly moist chips in a cool place.
In addition I also found some very rhizomorphic myc in a *huge* chip pile left over from brush/tree clearance, probably about a year old. I stuffed it into a large plant pot with lots of chips about 2 weeks ago and it's colonised about 50% of it already - however I have seen a lot of honey fungus in the area, so it could be something as common as that.
Now, I know it might be a leap to assume the species of the myc for either, but if I was to put these out in a patch isolated (ie wood beds don't touch) from the "known" cultures, and let them fruit, that it would not invade the "known" beds? Or is honey fungus so rampant it can spread across/through bare soil before fruiting?
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: ACorvus]
#15814070 - 02/15/12 02:37 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Quote:
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I was walking through a park today and came across a woodchipped rosebed in the process of being cleaned up. There were quite a few lumps of myc in there so I grabbed one and stuffed it in a jar with some slightly moist chips in a cool place.
The chance that the mycelium you captured will fruit psychoactive mushrooms is approximately one in fifty thousand.
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Or is honey fungus so rampant it can spread across/through bare soil before fruiting?
All mushrooms spread out across/through bare soil before fruiting.
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: m-d-m-a]
#15817015 - 02/16/12 01:12 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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m-d-m-a said:
 
some cyan myc. enjoy 
nice tub , is it a new tub or one of the tubs you fruited last season? i noticed on the pics that there is a lot of surface water on the woodchip . how often do you mist them ?
not sure how often to mist, my chips look moist but no surface water on them .
  
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: mandrax360]
#15818703 - 02/16/12 12:16 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Your tubs are looking bright white and healthy, looks like doing everything right to me.
I've heard more closer to dry than soaked is better so as to not drown the myc and invite contams. If some of the top chips start to dry out then you need to mist more often but if not there is no worry.
I suppose it depends on the amoint of FAE as to misting regularity -obviously if more fresh air then more misting would be required.
I'd just give a light mist every few days to put your mind at ease but looks like they are happy in your tubs
Looks like you've gone for the Chipsii XXL too 
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: UK Explorer]
#15822103 - 02/17/12 02:16 AM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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the myc seem to like the beech Chipsii XXL . planning on trying my hand at a lc in a few weeks time as my first attempt went south . want to spread them as much as possibly in urban beds .
Edited by mandrax360 (02/17/12 07:34 AM)
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: mandrax360]
#15822978 - 02/17/12 10:17 AM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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Not managed to crack lc yet but would be fantastic to do so... be sure to check out Bfogg and one monkey's journals for some epic lc and myc spreading. Would be great if a few of us this side of the pond could do the same to really help things along!
Is the above myc germinated from spore mandrax?
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: UK Explorer]
#15823001 - 02/17/12 10:23 AM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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Got some woodchip soak water might add a sheet of spores to for a couple of days to germinate then dump out in appropriate spots ghetto tek style!
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: UK Explorer]
#15823142 - 02/17/12 11:01 AM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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I havent misted that tub since i made it. It was a fruited tub from last year. I keep a lid on the tub with shit loads of holes stabbed in the sides. Always worked for me. And like ukexplorer said your tubs are looking healthy!
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: m-d-m-a]
#15823863 - 02/17/12 02:33 PM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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If it aint broke don't fix it 
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Re: OFFICIAL U.K CYAN DISTRIBUTION THREAD [Re: UK Explorer]
#15827080 - 02/18/12 08:28 AM (3 months, 9 days ago) |
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thx for all the feed back , this is all new to me. first time i have ever attempted growing any type of mushroom . i like the idea that i can fruit outdoors without to much fuss and there are loads of wooded areas close to home .
UKE from a print that someone kindly gave me .
Edited by mandrax360 (02/18/12 01:23 PM)
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