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 Violet
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 Pan Cambo spawnings. No poo left - case the rest? 
#15800506 - 02/12/12 09:21 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Hello Shroomery!
I have been preparing lots of Panaeolus Cambodginiensis spawn. I think I'm gonna like this species... Very much looking forward to it.
I have spawned 1:1 to two trays of poo:verm:coffee like this:
They're doing very well, especially considering I made sure no spawn was exposed, so what you see is what's broken thru. It must be doing even better down in there. These guys are FAST once they get going!
I've also made Nine PF jars, with hpoo, verm, and a small bit of BRF.
I inoculated all of them with some nice thick GLC, and just three or four days later... This awesomeness.
Yep, I'm gonna fruit these as cakes! Should be awesome. So looking forward to that.
Here's the real point of this post... Ive got this spawn here, biting at the bit ready to go. It's making some blue spots and heavy consolidation around the top, and some metabolites are collecting at the bottom. It's only been fully colonized a week! These things are nuts!
... But I'm out of hpoo.
I refuse to use the crappy [lol] store-bought manure. So I just don't have any option to spawn these to for a while, probably too long.
Thorough searching pulled up this thread, which has made me hopeful...
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1515878
It's in the archive, even. But it's almost 9 years old, and I don't see much of this mentioned. It's also referring to Cyanescens, and mine are Cambo, which are probably close enough for it to also work... if it DOES work.
Any recent accounts of this?
Would I be wasting this beautiful spawn just casing it, no poo?
If I do case it, would it be a good idea to just add a casing layer to the top of the small jar and fruit it from that, without recovering?
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Violet
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Re: Pan Cambo spawnings. No poo left - case the rest? [Re: Violet]
#15802293 - 02/13/12 09:19 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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While bumping, I should add that the spawn is RGS. The archived thread indicates that Pan Cyan readily fruits from RGS alone when cased. This is why I'm posing the question, and wondering if that info has been supported over time.
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 iwannabemro
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Re: Pan Cambo spawnings. No poo left - case the rest? [Re: Violet]
#15802372 - 02/13/12 09:44 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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You should try it, and keep us posted. Then we will all have some fresh updated info.
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Violet
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Re: Pan Cambo spawnings. No poo left - case the rest? [Re: iwannabemro]
#15802397 - 02/13/12 09:52 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Ya know, I will.
I'll add a casing layer on top of that half-pint spawn jar so it can move into fruiting without having to recover from being broken-up.
I'll fruit it alongside the trays when they're fully colonized, so if the trays succeed and the jar casing fails, we'll know pretty well for sure.
That large jar however is perfect for a nice mini-mono, so I'll save it for that unless someone reports that casing RGS spawn indeed works fine.
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Re: Pan Cambo spawnings. No poo left - case the rest? [Re: Violet]
#15918102 - 03/08/12 05:55 AM (2 months, 21 days ago) |
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I've long since cased all the spawn jars mentioned.
I lost the first TWO [listed in OP] to Trichoderma, probably due to using sterilized substrate.
I lost another, a casing of RGS from the small jar, to Trich because a few grains of grass seed were somewhat exposed on one far side of the tray.
It was sitting right next to two others still remaining, one small tray of poo/verm sub cased and another of the big RGS spawn cased, which seem to have not increased the amount of casing colonized in several days. They've been open to fruiting conditions for a week I think 
Seems these guys may have issues overcoming the stress of being broken up, especially if they shortly afterwards encounter a contaminant. They might just give up or something, they seem to have.
2 PF cakes, dunked and rolled in peat/verm/lime, have already fuzzed up their 'casing' far more just overnight.
2 other PF cakes, one broken in quarters and covered with the same 50/50 and the other cased in-jar, are doing better also than the ones that have been open to fruiting for a week.
I bet these cakes will do wonderfully.
Would it be advisable to remove the casing layer of the seemingly stalled trays and lay another down for it to try again? Or give up on those trays?
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Re: Pan Cambo spawnings. No poo left - case the rest? [Re: Violet]
#15951284 - 03/15/12 01:41 PM (2 months, 14 days ago) |
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A pin! Growing heartily from the PF jar that was NOT birthed but instead cased invitro.
It definitely had a lead on the rest - it wasn't birthed and handled, dunked underwater for a day, nor rolled around and covered with stuff.
So, as far as that comes, fruiting from the jars is best when it comes to making sure you get fruits. Much fewer though, since the fruiting surface area is so small especially with these regular half-pints.
After the first flush from this jar, for clones and prints, I may birth and dunk it if the other dunk-rolled PF cakes fruit. I suspect they will and have strong hopes for them since they had handling and dunk delays. I have 5 more waiting for their best chance to succeed! Invitro, cake, or crumbled-cased...
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