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The year Cannabis is legalized
    #15800312 - 02/12/12 08:52 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

Short question - how soon will it be? (your guess)


I live in Antarctica where there is no such thing as medical pot shops down at my street corner where I can go in and pick my favorite green right off the shelves.  Fortunately, these actually exist in Cali and I assume along much of the west coast, in Colorado.. etc.

Now what, 10-20 years ago NONE of this existed?  At the rate we are going, when will it finally be accepted nationally (or internationally)?  When will EVERYONE finally be FREE?

Technology is coming such a long way, and we just keep getting closer and closer to that breakthrough point in human history where these good changes are finally starting to happen.  Too bad the Federal govt still wants to lock up every stoner on this planet.

Now I ask because, well, I'm fairly young, I'm thinking of career paths, and honestly, growing medicals or at least somehow being associated with the Cannabis industry would be very interesting to me.

Other than prohibition, alcohol has pretty much been legal the whole time.  So all that time, those funny simple people that like making their HOPS and throwing it in the fermenter and making booze (shit I dunno the process, I'm more of a pot-freak than booze-hound) but anyway these people have been safely and successfully making their booze without trouble the whole time.  And I can't be that upset; when the end product is a tasty cold beer, I can't hate too much.  But why is the process for growing a beautiful flower so much more difficult?  It's more of a passion I'd like to pursue, but I don't want to get involved as long as it's still "criminal"

If I set it as a life goal to get involved in the Cannabis industry somehow, after a few years could my dreams safely come to fruition?  Or is this something I shouldn't count on too much?

Shit I'd go so far as being a hemp farmer if that ever even became legal, just because I know of all the benefits even that could provide to the world.  Maybe just grow my little personal med stash :smile: and mass produce acres of hemp.  That'd be the dream :cool:

So again, is it worth the mental energy to pursue a dream in the MJ industry?  People in Cali and whatnot have actually grown to SEE these changes first hand as they unfold - I haven't had the same opportunities to see this, but I do have a little background information and can at least see the trend

So what do you guys think.. when will MJ finally be decriminalized/legalized/accepted as a part of our world's culture?  It already appears to be happening.. so at that rate is there an end to all this madness in sight?

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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: extreme]
    #15800381 - 02/12/12 09:06 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

100 years
Defiantly not in time for you to make a career of it, sorry

IMO of course


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: Gratos]
    #15800422 - 02/12/12 09:12 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

i would say in the next ten years, but perhaps i'm just being optimistic


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #15800498 - 02/12/12 09:20 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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100 years
Defiantly not in time for you to make a career of it, sorry

IMO of course



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i would say in the next ten years, but perhaps i'm just being optimistic




Obviously hard to say exactly haha, but already seeing large differences in opinion :smile:

I sure hope it's closer to 10 than 100 though!

The way things have progressed already, I personally think as long as we continue to progress, and don't let corporate/federal greed get in the way of the TRUTH, I don't see how it could be more than 20-30 years.  I mean it was only MADE illegal in the 30s right?  It was all reefer madness and you'll turn into a psycho killer on MariHuana, that devil weed back then, and in 50 years it went from that to Medical Marijuana Dispensaries on your street corner in the more liberal places of the world.  If the liberation continues, at the rate it's been going, I really can't see it taking longer than 30 years.  But who knows.  I just hope more people fight for the cause and stand up for what's right.  Even organizations like NORML are doing great things.  There's no way this prohibition can last forever


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: extreme]
    #15800652 - 02/12/12 09:44 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

Dude... You live in Antarctica???

That's fucking awesome.

Anyway...

I live in California and we are extremeely close to full legalization. Prop 19 was pretty close in November (46% yes, 53% no) This year we have something in the works called "regulate marijuana like wine 2012." Fingers crossed. The overall trend is definitely in our favor.

But to answer your question there is tons of money in the pot industry. There will be a lot of competetion. But yes within your lifetime you will pdefinitely be able to smoke weed freely and maybe even make some money in the bud-biz.

next ten years> quite possibly
next 20 years> I would put money down, yes
next 50 years> Hell motherfuckin' yes


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: bananaman]
    #15800678 - 02/12/12 09:49 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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next ten years> quite possibly
next 20 years> I would put money down, yes
next 50 years> Hell motherfuckin' yes




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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: extreme]
    #15801250 - 02/12/12 11:52 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

I hope by at least 2018 but who knows if that'll ever happen Im convinced the tobacco companies are paying off people to never let that happen since they'd most likely lose millions


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: extreme]
    #15801273 - 02/13/12 12:01 AM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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Quote:

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next ten years> quite possibly
next 20 years> I would put money down, yes
next 50 years> Hell motherfuckin' yes




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Yeah I am in line with this thinking. There has been a marijuana explosion across society lately. Yay for the future!


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: LSDylan]
    #15801355 - 02/13/12 12:34 AM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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I hope by at least 2018 but who knows if that'll ever happen Im convinced the tobacco companies are paying off people to never let that happen since they'd most likely lose millions




I bet alcohol and tobacco companies are mad as hell due to weed getting so popular nowadays.  Alcohol will likely always stay, but tobacco will lose some for sure.

Unless there's some sort of conspiracy for everything to not work......................... :paranoid:

But if that's not true.. 2018 would be like.. no time at all really haha.  SIX years!? I'll only be getting close to 30, and the medicinal part will be even more useful by then I'm sure!

I'd also have my whole life to enjoy pot and fuck it, my kids could not have to worry about smoking when they got old enough.  Everything would just be safer.

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Yeah I am in line with this thinking. There has been a marijuana explosion across society lately. Yay for the future!




That's what I'm saying right!  The general lax-ness in Europe (TNL, belgium, c.r.) and Canada as well as some of the states is definitely progressive.  I'm not too close to Cali right now, but I'm aware of how different it is out there compared to other parts of the world.  Also prop 19 as homie said ^ 46% yes! that's great!  That almost seems like more than I'd expect, but props to cali for getting that close, and hopefully that couple % can be persuaded the next time around.  With full legalization starting one place and the overall benefit and acceptance just admitted, I think it would just spread everywhere else.

I wonder how you can preprepare :lol: for possible MJ legalization without actually going forth and trying to grow it illegally?  Then again I could always learn some business skills and just get into that side of it when it comes around, who knows :smile:

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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: extreme]
    #15801558 - 02/13/12 02:02 AM (3 months, 14 days ago)

If you really want to work in the cannabis industry, why not study at oaksterdam university and work in cali medical? You could also hit up holland, there are a bunch of people who work breeding new strains for the seed companies to sell. Or you could try a country like portugal or spain, where drug trafficking is what is criminalized, and growing a small number of plants in your home for your private consumption isn't punishable...


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: sanx]
    #15801618 - 02/13/12 02:31 AM (3 months, 14 days ago)

IMO who fucking knows. THink of the hippies in the 60's they were sure it would become legal there was so much pro-weed pro drugs movement and it never happened. half a decade later and we're still stuck where they were essentially. There are a lot of people and powerful groups that oppose it. I wouldn't count on it being legalized.


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: nonduality]
    #15801753 - 02/13/12 04:29 AM (3 months, 14 days ago)

A generation of universal, pragmatic education. No more 'Paradigm Paralysis' pl0x.

However long that is, who knows!

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    #15802111 - 02/13/12 08:14 AM (3 months, 14 days ago)

sad thing is, i feel like if cannabis is legalized people will start brushing off legalization of other drugs. right now it's an issue of freedom. once all those potheads have their freedom to smoke weed, suddenly the freedom to use other drugs won't matter too much to them anymore as a majority of them don't anyways. or it could go the opposite direction, people see the positives of legalization and expand... i'm really hoping it's the latter


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #15802279 - 02/13/12 09:14 AM (3 months, 14 days ago)

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sad thing is, i feel like if cannabis is legalized people will start brushing off legalization of other drugs. right now it's an issue of freedom. once all those potheads have their freedom to smoke weed, suddenly the freedom to use other drugs won't matter too much to them anymore as a majority of them don't anyways. or it could go the opposite direction, people see the positives of legalization and expand... i'm really hoping it's the latter




This is what I am most afraid of. Weed legalization would be great, and I am sure that it will happen, but we need ALL drugs legalized. If just weed were made legal that would not fix the problem.


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: nonduality]
    #15806860 - 02/14/12 02:52 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

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IMO who fucking knows. THink of the hippies in the 60's they were sure it would become legal there was so much pro-weed pro drugs movement and it never happened. half a decade later and we're still stuck where they were essentially. There are a lot of people and powerful groups that oppose it. I wouldn't count on it being legalized.




OR, those hippies in the 60s kept on pushing, creating even the idea of "medical marijuana", to get a foot in the door with legalization, and I never would have dreamed that one day i'd be able to walk down the street and buy quality herb in a store. We are the "young hippies" now, and must continue what they started. Living in a medical state, I can tell you, we're well on the way to full legalization.


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: gratefulskinny]
    #15806863 - 02/14/12 02:55 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

if you're 18+, smoke weed, and dont vote, i will slay you. It's really up to we, the people to make it happen and not just sit on the sidelines talking about it :wink:
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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: gratefulskinny]
    #15806977 - 02/14/12 04:23 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

You live where?? How is that possible?


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: cube talk]
    #15807853 - 02/14/12 10:35 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

I would say that it is getting very close, maybe not in the next 10 years, but I don't see how it could be any longer than 20. With all these new documentaries like The Union popping up exposing the benefits of it and lies made about it, there are more people picking up joints than putting them out. The anti-mj stuff just hasn't worked out despite the ads and propaganda, although I imagine that the last states to go legal would be in the southeast. Even NC has an MMJ bill being considered now, so I guess there is hope for just about anywhere.


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: nonduality]
    #15807910 - 02/14/12 10:52 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

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THink of the hippies in the 60's they were sure it would become legal there was so much pro-weed pro drugs movement and it never happened. half a decade later and we're still stuck where they were essentially.





Holy crap.. you mean it's 1965? I traveled back in time!

PS: It's more likely that pot would become decriminalized rather than legalized. IMO


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: bollocks]
    #15807976 - 02/14/12 11:12 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

At the state level? Hopefully this year.

At the federal level? There's too much money in the drug war. I think we are a long ways away.


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #15807985 - 02/14/12 11:14 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Cannabis will always be legal...in my heart.  HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY, CANNABIS! :heart:


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: tokinman21]
    #15808014 - 02/14/12 11:22 AM (3 months, 13 days ago)

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Cannabis will always be legal...in my heart.  HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY, CANNABIS! :heart:




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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: TheJollyRancher]
    #15808240 - 02/14/12 12:40 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

I can't believe you live in Antarctica. :eek:

Whatever will happen, the first real legalization will happen in the US. That's where it all started and that's where it has to end. The governments in Europe just don't have the guts for it.
Moreover we should all keep in mind that it's not just pot prohibition that failed, it's the model of prohibition itself. We must not forget what we learned out of the effectiveness of harm reduction, we must not forget that we need to control and regulate all drugs and give honest and unbiased help to people having problems with them.

Right now I think that all it needs in some of the MMJ states to take the next step is some kind of trigger, some kind of event that will make the prohibitionists look like the ignorant bunch of people they are.
And I'm pretty sure that such an event will occur, that someone on the prohibitionist's side will do a very big mistake.

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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: Lord_McLovin]
    #15808424 - 02/14/12 01:23 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

i like where this is going :yesnod:

it's nice just seeing these thoughts stir amongst us stoners, MMJ users and part-time cannabis enthusiasts alike.

i can't help but want to agree with the people in the states that are so liberal on this point already (Cali.. etc)  Back in the 60s hippies were doing lsd in San Fran, now that's illegal as fuck, but in the same area you have legitimate businesses, just like your local liquor store, that sell the FINEST Cannabis.  That's progress - it's undeniable.  It can't just stop there..

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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: ifoundwaldo]
    #15808475 - 02/14/12 01:37 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Well, it's already decriminalized in California, Oregon, Alaska, Nevada, Colorado, New York, Connecticut, Nebraska, Massachusetts, Ohio, and *edit*Mississippi, and that's just the in the US.

Of course, many of these decriminalized states have ridiculous rules. In Massachusetts, for example, they have to forfeit their cannabis if they're found having it, and they can't possess more than an ounce.

Never the less, states are decriminalizing (even if it's not getting media coverage...:mad:). I think the rates of decriminalization will be exponential, legalization will follow soon after, and then finally the federal government will lift the ban. Probably about 20 years, just as everyone else is saying. I'm so unique...

Edit: accidentally wrote Alabama instead of Mississippi. Hope I didnt get any Alabamans in trouble!:tongue2:


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: happy tree man]
    #15808759 - 02/14/12 02:51 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

Maybe they will legalize Cannabis on the state level within a few years including feds keep out of it law, but not federally legal they wouldn't want mexico bringing it in, you want that bit of land, so you need the people to be poor so you can one day have that land just given to you.
No way they will legalize all drugs what would they do with all those people in prison there is no jobs when they get out and all those law enforcement officers out of work then you would have no need for as many lawyers prisons are great money makers many of them would have to close down. Too much money in the pockets of just a few people.
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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: extreme]
    #15809088 - 02/14/12 03:51 PM (3 months, 12 days ago)

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I live in Antarctica...






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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: OnePerEyeM8]
    #15809102 - 02/14/12 03:54 PM (3 months, 12 days ago)

How does one acquire drugs in Antarctica?  Do they ship spores to Antarctica?


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    #15809422 - 02/14/12 04:49 PM (3 months, 12 days ago)

In Canada, most likely by 2030.


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: cube talk]
    #15809887 - 02/14/12 05:57 PM (3 months, 12 days ago)

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You live where?? How is that possible?




a mountainous medical state. there are more dispensaries then liqour stores and gas stations where i am, and the MAX penalty for having 2OZ or less, is a petty offense/$100 ticket (cheaper then speeding ticket)

I also, have never met anyone who has gotten said ticket, worst case it was taken away, or put back. It's really not a big deal around here and i was cumming in my pants when i first moved here.... :cool:


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: extreme]
    #15810005 - 02/14/12 06:19 PM (3 months, 12 days ago)

I can only speak for the U.S., but short answer: 2040, optimistically.

Won't delve too much into a longer answer except to say this is a complex issue.  "Legalize it!" makes a nice slogan but it's not much of a plan.  Only when enough states have effectively decriminalized it and enough people have adopted a more rational attitude towards the substance will the federal government actually do something.


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: Land_Crab]
    #15810043 - 02/14/12 06:25 PM (3 months, 12 days ago)

does it really matter if its legal or illegal i can still walk less then a block to get some.... PLUS dealers make money from it and they dont even want it legal.  as long as your being smart and not getting arrested everyday then it really doesnt matter if its illegal.


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: boommer]
    #15811619 - 02/14/12 11:53 PM (3 months, 12 days ago)

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does it really matter if its legal or illegal i can still walk less then a block to get some.... PLUS dealers make money from it and they dont even want it legal.  as long as your being smart and not getting arrested everyday then it really doesnt matter if its illegal.




lol, i sold weed since the day i was born until i read your post, but I still want it legal.  I'd rather make money off it the legal way :smile:

And MY dealer can be really unreliable as well.. bein' from Antarctica and all :lol:


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: extreme]
    #15811663 - 02/15/12 12:10 AM (3 months, 12 days ago)

Within ten years, I think. The way things are looking in California, I want to cut that in half. I feel like we're already there, but there are a few more steps to go.

As others have already stated... California is just ridiculous right now. Also for every storefront there are ten delivery services, which advertise publicly, lots of them in free publications that you pick up outside of 711 and the grocery store and such - you open it up and the first ten pages are full color dispensary advertisements with closeups of nugs, like a freakin high times. It's everywhere.

I know people who grow openly, outdoors, in the suburbs. I've heard stories of police entering a home grow and politely moving along when the proper documentation is provided. Personally, I was caught with marijuana before I ever had a medical card, and I was never charged, only scolded, and he even let me keep my pipe. So as far as I am concerned, it is as good as legal, here and now. But full legalization is ideal. Screw the profiteering dealers who want to keep it illegal so that they can make more money - that is pathetic; at what cost? Our freedom? Give me a break, sell hard drugs if you want to make big profits. I want to be able to buy pot at 711 at 1 am if I have to. Of course I never would, I'd go to the connoisseur's hangout where all of the top quality stuff is sold. But a pack of joints I can buy at a liquor store? Sold on convenience alone, I don't care how shitty the pot is, I'm going to end up buying some of those on a late drunken night, I've bought enough cigarettes and enough short bags of shitty weed in my lifetime, to know a deal when I see it :stoned2:


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: drr]
    #15814607 - 02/15/12 04:34 PM (3 months, 11 days ago)

You guys are funny, if you read the OP, Antartica is a metaphor. (note the use of "federal government" in context of the sentence/paragraph)

Also to the OP, I will tell you one of the best secrets regarding ANY productive activity - sell something the producers need. Sure anyone can grow herb and make good money off it, BUT then the growers need supplies, lights, fans, filters, even so far as plastic gallon zip lock bags. (Think how many of those little dime bag type bags must be sold annually over the US, it is probably a seven figure number or more (just pulling that out of thin air, I have no idea). But produce or sell what the producers and sellers need. There is your "in" to the MJ movement. Cannabusiness is where it is going to be at. If you can get in early (it is probably 15 years later for "early" but there is always time), then you can establish your self and your brand as a quality, well respected, loved, and essential part of any growers' set up.

If you can think up or perfect something that is not widely used, or something that is widely used that you can make much easier or more cost effective, you can be doing a great service to the community, and as long as you stay out of the producer's business, you can be truly safe and make legitimate income.

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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: dwpineal]
    #15814935 - 02/15/12 05:24 PM (3 months, 11 days ago)

Mark my words

Within 5 years pot will be legalised in the majority of the western countries, definitely US. Throughout the entire planet it might take up to 10 years, no more than that though since the US is leading combatant on the war on drugs. There is no way all this nonsensical war on drugs can perpetuate itself much longer. The economy needs that bust to maintain itself and the pot industry has been validated as a billionaire business. Call me a dreamer but I'm even positive that in 2012 we'll be seeing some major progress towards these steps... Fuck decriminalization, we are the generation who'll impose our Rights to consume and change our consciousness however and whenever we want to ! ! !:pipesmoke:


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: ifoundwaldo] * 1
    #15815694 - 02/15/12 07:42 PM (3 months, 11 days ago)

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At the state level? Hopefully this year.

At the federal level? There's too much money in the drug war. I think we are a long ways away.




Yeah the fact of the matter is marijuana is going to be contiously eradicated no matter WHAT the states vote i seem to remember president obama saying he was going to "stop the fed prosecution on medical marijuana" but if we look at whats really going on in reality we see that his administration is HELL BENT or EADICTING marijuana no matter what the states vote..They dont give a fuck as we protest more and have more activism the goverment jumps on that then closes down real good legitiment  progams that werent hurting anyone i mean its really sad but i just DO NOT see federal law accepting it anytime soon.Now im not saying stop the activism either thats not the solution, i guess what im trying to say is i see no solution to this in the near future.The goverment is fucking pig headed


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: Seriously_Spaced]
    #15816534 - 02/15/12 10:36 PM (3 months, 11 days ago)

As if Obama didn't get into the white house going Im going to change this law it is absurd and was told once he got in ahhh NO! your not changing that Mr President if you do that straight away it could have disastrous effects we should just lay low and lets see what more conclusive studies have to say you wouldn't want to be the face behind severe mental conditions I mean if we only knew now how dangerous tobacco is!?. He Is a very different man to Bush and the typical Extreme police officer.


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: dwpineal] * 1
    #15816660 - 02/15/12 11:11 PM (3 months, 11 days ago)

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dwpineal said:I will tell you one of the best secrets regarding ANY productive activity - sell something the producers need. Sure anyone can grow herb and make good money off it, BUT then the growers need supplies, lights, fans, filters, even so far as plastic gallon zip lock bags. (Think how many of those little dime bag type bags must be sold annually over the US, it is probably a seven figure number or more (just pulling that out of thin air, I have no idea). But produce or sell what the producers and sellers need. There is your "in" to the MJ movement. Cannabusiness is where it is going to be at. If you can get in early (it is probably 15 years later for "early" but there is always time), then you can establish your self and your brand as a quality, well respected, loved, and essential part of any growers' set up.

If you can think up or perfect something that is not widely used, or something that is widely used that you can make much easier or more cost effective, you can be doing a great service to the community, and as long as you stay out of the producer's business, you can be truly safe and make legitimate income.

Just a thought...




You know that's a REALLY good point that I never really thought of before.  This gives me years to think of something convenient not yet available to aid in growing weed.... Or perfect a piece that isn't already the best.. it's like the doors just opened haha

:hmm:

Thanks man that's honestly great advice.  Trying to find some direction in life, just invites more thoughts to my future :thumbup:


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: extreme]
    #15816794 - 02/15/12 11:58 PM (3 months, 11 days ago)

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Other than prohibition, alcohol has pretty much been legal the whole time.  So all that time, those funny simple people that like making their HOPS and throwing it in the fermenter and making booze (shit I dunno the process, I'm more of a pot-freak than booze-hound) but anyway these people have been safely and successfully making their booze without trouble the whole time.






this is simply not true have you ever been to the middle east try to find a beer out that way then try to find hash then tell me which is more socially acceptable

now i know this is a small part of the world but its part of the world and should be accounted for


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: punkrocker292004]
    #15817269 - 02/16/12 04:29 AM (3 months, 11 days ago)

Yes but that is a religious prohibition based on what they believe G-d said to Mohammad or something like that. Rational logic goes out the window when religion comes into play. I'm not hating on religion at all, I am just pointing out that for those who really truly believe - you are not going to get them to come around based on pure logic, I mean it is like arguing with the Word of G-d :smile:

Totally and completely different than laws that are known to be written by man. (In the eyes of religious believers)


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: dwpineal]
    #15817325 - 02/16/12 05:03 AM (3 months, 11 days ago)

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Yes but that is a religious prohibition based on what they believe G-d said to Mohammad or something like that. Rational logic goes out the window when religion comes into play. I'm not hating on religion at all, I am just pointing out that for those who really truly believe - you are not going to get them to come around based on pure logic, I mean it is like arguing with the Word of G-d :smile:

Totally and completely different than laws that are known to be written by man. (In the eyes of religious believers)






yes islam is the influence for these laws but it is still the law over there besides christian morals is what shaped our basic laws and rights
and racism and fear is what made our (usa) current scheduling system


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: punkrocker292004]
    #15818822 - 02/16/12 12:39 PM (3 months, 11 days ago)

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Yes but that is a religious prohibition based on what they believe G-d said to Mohammad or something like that. Rational logic goes out the window when religion comes into play. I'm not hating on religion at all, I am just pointing out that for those who really truly believe - you are not going to get them to come around based on pure logic, I mean it is like arguing with the Word of G-d :smile:

Totally and completely different than laws that are known to be written by man. (In the eyes of religious believers)






yes islam is the influence for these laws but it is still the law over there besides christian morals is what shaped our basic laws and rights
and racism and fear is what made our (usa) current scheduling system




you think i don't already know that PR? :confused:

you may have taken my alcohol statement a bit out of context.  it's okay i'm not upset or anything i'm just saying.... i understand fully why the way things are the way they are.

i mean i agree with you here on this statement, so..?

point being it's all bullshit

i'm simply wondering when the bullshit will end.  it's already begun


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: extreme]
    #15819273 - 02/16/12 02:15 PM (3 months, 11 days ago)

as if the government doesn't put fear into our eyes to control us. It is a form of ... "conditioning" look at how they make soldiers they abuse them about everything strip them of their beliefs, so the person will break and will conform to their structure so they will follow the rule maker of their decision.
Look at how many times soldiers (whether it is soldiers or law enforcement)  have been made to fire or injure innocent sometimes unruly unarmed civilians. Do you think alot of them wanted to do it NO but they don't have the balls to say I'm not doing that that's a stupid idea. It is about control we are just little puppets for making rich corporations and super rich people richer. Look at whats happening with the cannabis issue everybody is turning look at occupy the same thing so what do they do to make the people come to a rational decision they beat them and use scare tactics instead of backing down we are making a stand and instead of saying well we must be wrong we have to look into this and change something they just hit us harder.


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: closet hippie]
    #15819284 - 02/16/12 02:17 PM (3 months, 11 days ago)

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as if the government doesn't put fear into our eyes to control us. It is a form of ... "conditioning" look at how they make soldiers they abuse them about everything strip them of their beliefs, so the person will break and will conform to their structure so they will follow the rule maker of their decision.
Look at how many times soldiers (whether it is soldiers or law enforcement)  have been made to fire or injure innocent sometimes unruly unarmed civilians. Do you think alot of them wanted to do it NO but they don't have the balls to say I'm not doing that that's a stupid idea. It is about control we are just little puppets for making rich corporations and super rich people richer. Look at whats happening with the cannabis issue everybody is turning look at occupy the same thing so what do they do to make the people come to a rational decision they beat them and use scare tactics instead of backing down we are making a stand and instead of saying well we must be wrong we have to look into this and change something they just hit us harder.




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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: extreme]
    #15819797 - 02/16/12 04:30 PM (3 months, 10 days ago)

2012. Ron Paul. Nuff said.


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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: happy tree man]
    #15820074 - 02/16/12 05:34 PM (3 months, 10 days ago)

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Well, it's already decriminalized in California, Oregon, Alaska, Nevada, Colorado, New York, Connecticut, Nebraska, Massachusetts, Ohio, and Alabama, and that's just the in the US.





Source?  I'm a resident of Alabama.  Cannabis will get you in trouble, any amount.


I think there's a chance Cannabis will be legal at the federal level in the US within 25-30 years.  I think that will be enough time for the younger generation that is much more accepting of pot to grow up and have enough influence on legislation to make a change.


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