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 tokinman21
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 Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#15807985 - 02/14/12 11:14 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Cannabis will always be legal...in my heart. HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY, CANNABIS! 
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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: tokinman21]
#15808014 - 02/14/12 11:22 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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tokinman21 said:
Cannabis will always be legal...in my heart. HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY, CANNABIS!
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Lord_McLovin
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I can't believe you live in Antarctica. 
Whatever will happen, the first real legalization will happen in the US. That's where it all started and that's where it has to end. The governments in Europe just don't have the guts for it.
Moreover we should all keep in mind that it's not just pot prohibition that failed, it's the model of prohibition itself. We must not forget what we learned out of the effectiveness of harm reduction, we must not forget that we need to control and regulate all drugs and give honest and unbiased help to people having problems with them.
Right now I think that all it needs in some of the MMJ states to take the next step is some kind of trigger, some kind of event that will make the prohibitionists look like the ignorant bunch of people they are.
And I'm pretty sure that such an event will occur, that someone on the prohibitionist's side will do a very big mistake.
We'll see... 
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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: Lord_McLovin]
#15808424 - 02/14/12 01:23 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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i like where this is going 
it's nice just seeing these thoughts stir amongst us stoners, MMJ users and part-time cannabis enthusiasts alike.
i can't help but want to agree with the people in the states that are so liberal on this point already (Cali.. etc) Back in the 60s hippies were doing lsd in San Fran, now that's illegal as fuck, but in the same area you have legitimate businesses, just like your local liquor store, that sell the FINEST Cannabis. That's progress - it's undeniable. It can't just stop there..
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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: ifoundwaldo]
#15808475 - 02/14/12 01:37 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Well, it's already decriminalized in California, Oregon, Alaska, Nevada, Colorado, New York, Connecticut, Nebraska, Massachusetts, Ohio, and *edit*Mississippi, and that's just the in the US.
Of course, many of these decriminalized states have ridiculous rules. In Massachusetts, for example, they have to forfeit their cannabis if they're found having it, and they can't possess more than an ounce.
Never the less, states are decriminalizing (even if it's not getting media coverage... ). I think the rates of decriminalization will be exponential, legalization will follow soon after, and then finally the federal government will lift the ban. Probably about 20 years, just as everyone else is saying. I'm so unique...
Edit: accidentally wrote Alabama instead of Mississippi. Hope I didnt get any Alabamans in trouble!
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Maybe they will legalize Cannabis on the state level within a few years including feds keep out of it law, but not federally legal they wouldn't want mexico bringing it in, you want that bit of land, so you need the people to be poor so you can one day have that land just given to you.
No way they will legalize all drugs what would they do with all those people in prison there is no jobs when they get out and all those law enforcement officers out of work then you would have no need for as many lawyers prisons are great money makers many of them would have to close down. Too much money in the pockets of just a few people.
Occupy has great potential LEGALIZE all Drugs.
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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: extreme]
#15809088 - 02/14/12 03:51 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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I live in Antarctica...
  
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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: OnePerEyeM8]
#15809102 - 02/14/12 03:54 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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How does one acquire drugs in Antarctica? Do they ship spores to Antarctica?
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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: Phenom] 1
#15809422 - 02/14/12 04:49 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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In Canada, most likely by 2030.
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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: cube talk]
#15809887 - 02/14/12 05:57 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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cube talk said:
You live where?? How is that possible?
a mountainous medical state. there are more dispensaries then liqour stores and gas stations where i am, and the MAX penalty for having 2OZ or less, is a petty offense/$100 ticket (cheaper then speeding ticket)
I also, have never met anyone who has gotten said ticket, worst case it was taken away, or put back. It's really not a big deal around here and i was cumming in my pants when i first moved here.... 
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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: extreme]
#15810005 - 02/14/12 06:19 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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I can only speak for the U.S., but short answer: 2040, optimistically.
Won't delve too much into a longer answer except to say this is a complex issue. "Legalize it!" makes a nice slogan but it's not much of a plan. Only when enough states have effectively decriminalized it and enough people have adopted a more rational attitude towards the substance will the federal government actually do something.
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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: Land_Crab]
#15810043 - 02/14/12 06:25 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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does it really matter if its legal or illegal i can still walk less then a block to get some.... PLUS dealers make money from it and they dont even want it legal. as long as your being smart and not getting arrested everyday then it really doesnt matter if its illegal.
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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: boommer]
#15811619 - 02/14/12 11:53 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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boommer said:
does it really matter if its legal or illegal i can still walk less then a block to get some.... PLUS dealers make money from it and they dont even want it legal. as long as your being smart and not getting arrested everyday then it really doesnt matter if its illegal.
lol, i sold weed since the day i was born until i read your post, but I still want it legal. I'd rather make money off it the legal way 
And MY dealer can be really unreliable as well.. bein' from Antarctica and all
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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: extreme]
#15811663 - 02/15/12 12:10 AM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Within ten years, I think. The way things are looking in California, I want to cut that in half. I feel like we're already there, but there are a few more steps to go.
As others have already stated... California is just ridiculous right now. Also for every storefront there are ten delivery services, which advertise publicly, lots of them in free publications that you pick up outside of 711 and the grocery store and such - you open it up and the first ten pages are full color dispensary advertisements with closeups of nugs, like a freakin high times. It's everywhere.
I know people who grow openly, outdoors, in the suburbs. I've heard stories of police entering a home grow and politely moving along when the proper documentation is provided. Personally, I was caught with marijuana before I ever had a medical card, and I was never charged, only scolded, and he even let me keep my pipe. So as far as I am concerned, it is as good as legal, here and now. But full legalization is ideal. Screw the profiteering dealers who want to keep it illegal so that they can make more money - that is pathetic; at what cost? Our freedom? Give me a break, sell hard drugs if you want to make big profits. I want to be able to buy pot at 711 at 1 am if I have to. Of course I never would, I'd go to the connoisseur's hangout where all of the top quality stuff is sold. But a pack of joints I can buy at a liquor store? Sold on convenience alone, I don't care how shitty the pot is, I'm going to end up buying some of those on a late drunken night, I've bought enough cigarettes and enough short bags of shitty weed in my lifetime, to know a deal when I see it 
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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: drr]
#15814607 - 02/15/12 04:34 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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You guys are funny, if you read the OP, Antartica is a metaphor. (note the use of "federal government" in context of the sentence/paragraph)
Also to the OP, I will tell you one of the best secrets regarding ANY productive activity - sell something the producers need. Sure anyone can grow herb and make good money off it, BUT then the growers need supplies, lights, fans, filters, even so far as plastic gallon zip lock bags. (Think how many of those little dime bag type bags must be sold annually over the US, it is probably a seven figure number or more (just pulling that out of thin air, I have no idea). But produce or sell what the producers and sellers need. There is your "in" to the MJ movement. Cannabusiness is where it is going to be at. If you can get in early (it is probably 15 years later for "early" but there is always time), then you can establish your self and your brand as a quality, well respected, loved, and essential part of any growers' set up.
If you can think up or perfect something that is not widely used, or something that is widely used that you can make much easier or more cost effective, you can be doing a great service to the community, and as long as you stay out of the producer's business, you can be truly safe and make legitimate income.
Just a thought...
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Psicodelico
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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: dwpineal]
#15814935 - 02/15/12 05:24 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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Mark my words
Within 5 years pot will be legalised in the majority of the western countries, definitely US. Throughout the entire planet it might take up to 10 years, no more than that though since the US is leading combatant on the war on drugs. There is no way all this nonsensical war on drugs can perpetuate itself much longer. The economy needs that bust to maintain itself and the pot industry has been validated as a billionaire business. Call me a dreamer but I'm even positive that in 2012 we'll be seeing some major progress towards these steps... Fuck decriminalization, we are the generation who'll impose our Rights to consume and change our consciousness however and whenever we want to ! ! !
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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: ifoundwaldo] 1
#15815694 - 02/15/12 07:42 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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ifoundwaldo said:
At the state level? Hopefully this year.
At the federal level? There's too much money in the drug war. I think we are a long ways away.
Yeah the fact of the matter is marijuana is going to be contiously eradicated no matter WHAT the states vote i seem to remember president obama saying he was going to "stop the fed prosecution on medical marijuana" but if we look at whats really going on in reality we see that his administration is HELL BENT or EADICTING marijuana no matter what the states vote..They dont give a fuck as we protest more and have more activism the goverment jumps on that then closes down real good legitiment progams that werent hurting anyone i mean its really sad but i just DO NOT see federal law accepting it anytime soon.Now im not saying stop the activism either thats not the solution, i guess what im trying to say is i see no solution to this in the near future.The goverment is fucking pig headed
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As if Obama didn't get into the white house going Im going to change this law it is absurd and was told once he got in ahhh NO! your not changing that Mr President if you do that straight away it could have disastrous effects we should just lay low and lets see what more conclusive studies have to say you wouldn't want to be the face behind severe mental conditions I mean if we only knew now how dangerous tobacco is!?. He Is a very different man to Bush and the typical Extreme police officer.
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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: dwpineal] 1
#15816660 - 02/15/12 11:11 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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dwpineal said:I will tell you one of the best secrets regarding ANY productive activity - sell something the producers need. Sure anyone can grow herb and make good money off it, BUT then the growers need supplies, lights, fans, filters, even so far as plastic gallon zip lock bags. (Think how many of those little dime bag type bags must be sold annually over the US, it is probably a seven figure number or more (just pulling that out of thin air, I have no idea). But produce or sell what the producers and sellers need. There is your "in" to the MJ movement. Cannabusiness is where it is going to be at. If you can get in early (it is probably 15 years later for "early" but there is always time), then you can establish your self and your brand as a quality, well respected, loved, and essential part of any growers' set up.
If you can think up or perfect something that is not widely used, or something that is widely used that you can make much easier or more cost effective, you can be doing a great service to the community, and as long as you stay out of the producer's business, you can be truly safe and make legitimate income.
Just a thought...
You know that's a REALLY good point that I never really thought of before. This gives me years to think of something convenient not yet available to aid in growing weed.... Or perfect a piece that isn't already the best.. it's like the doors just opened haha
Thanks man that's honestly great advice. Trying to find some direction in life, just invites more thoughts to my future
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Re: The year Cannabis is legalized [Re: extreme]
#15816794 - 02/15/12 11:58 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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extreme said:
Other than prohibition, alcohol has pretty much been legal the whole time. So all that time, those funny simple people that like making their HOPS and throwing it in the fermenter and making booze (shit I dunno the process, I'm more of a pot-freak than booze-hound) but anyway these people have been safely and successfully making their booze without trouble the whole time.
this is simply not true have you ever been to the middle east try to find a beer out that way then try to find hash then tell me which is more socially acceptable
now i know this is a small part of the world but its part of the world and should be accounted for
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