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 Wrong type of EZ felt? 
#15799711 - 02/12/12 06:53 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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So I was a Wally World today and noticed they had some "EZ Felt" in the craft section. It was only 20 cents a sheet so I picked some up for possible lid filters.
When I got home I looked up some posts and it looks like most people were using "stiffened" felt. The stuff I got is a flexible (tho strong) fabric.
Is this going to work for a lid filter. (maybe double it up?) or should I just look out for the stiffened stuff...The brand name is "Craft Felts" made with "eco-fi" Kinda tired of working with crappy postal tyvek.
Maybe if not for lids, would it work for my monotubs?
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 Re: Wrong type of EZ felt? [Re: CMOS]
#15799735 - 02/12/12 06:58 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Stiffined it just ironed and pressed really. It shouldnt make a difference. I would double up for safety, But personally I wouldnt bother with easyfelt. I have nad nothing but problems with it.
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Re: Wrong type of EZ felt? [Re: PureHash]
#15799947 - 02/12/12 07:39 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Never used it and honestly first time ive seen it on here (im sure there are plenty of threads and info) but it looks like if it were to get wet, it would attract contams like crazy
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Re: Wrong type of EZ felt? [Re: Swwert]
#15800122 - 02/12/12 08:16 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Here is what I was referencing.....
EZ FELT TEK
I ended up making three lids with it to try out. I'm about to start an LC and needed a lid, but I think I will stick with normal postal Tyvek for it. (LCs make me nervous...) I'll try the felt ones on some test PF teks or grains.
I just wanted to move away from tyvek cause its getting beat up and a couple of them look like they might have micro tears in em.
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Re: Wrong type of EZ felt? [Re: CMOS]
#15800146 - 02/12/12 08:22 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Yes that's the wrong felt buddy. You want to go to michaels Craft store and find it in the felt section. It's like $1.99 a sheet. If you sign up for their newsletter you'll get a 50% discount so that could help. Or I could send you Some in trade?
Anyways you want the stiff kind. It's essentially ironed down polyfil. I got this information straight from the user who made the EZ felt tek.
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This sounds correct.
Try again, OP.
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Meh..only spent 60cents on the stuff so no lost. There is a Michaels in the next town over so I'll just pick some up there.
I'll stick with tyvek for the time being, cause I wanna get going on my agar->LC.
Using the correct type of EZ Felt, has anyone noticed increased contam rates over something like tyvek? Would it be worth it to just order real SFDs online and redo all my jar lids?
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Re: Wrong type of EZ felt? [Re: CMOS]
#15800238 - 02/12/12 08:37 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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If you don't mind waiting for it to ship then you should go with the SFDs.
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Re: Wrong type of EZ felt? [Re: San]
#15800255 - 02/12/12 08:40 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Yea I think the only difference (as I understand) in SFD and issue in performance with EZfelt is that SFD are water •resistant unlike EZfelt•. So I'd go that route. I havnt had a single contam with EZfelt.
You don't only have to go to Michaels. If you have a Joanne's or Beverley's I believe they both carry it and will each take each others coupons as well 
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Yeah think I'll just go with the EZ Felt. (for now at least) Its like 1/10th the cost of SFD and I can get it nearby. Taking the extra time to put foil on a jar before PCing doesn't really matter to me.
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My EZ felt experiment: The filter test
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My EZ felt experiment: The filter test
Excellent...I was looking for something like this with the search function.
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12 jars is hardly enough data to make conclusive general statements like that.
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Quote:
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Yea I think the only difference (as I understand) in SFD and EZfelt is that SFD are waterproof. So I'd go that route. I havnt had a single contam with EZfelt.
You don't only have to go to Michaels. If you have a Joanne's or Beverley's I believe they both carry it and will each take each others coupons as well
the difference is that SFD filter down to .3 micron with 99.99% efficiency. EZ felt doesnt.
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Re: Wrong type of EZ felt? [Re: PureHash]
#15800357 - 02/12/12 09:01 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Cool. Was talking about performance.
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My EZ felt experiment: The filter test
with 3 jars to test, if one contams thats a 33% contam rate. thats way to high for any mycologist. vendor SFD might show 1 jar contam out of 1000. (99.99%) the only way to go IMO, besides 90mm sfd can be cut in to 8 or more lids. this is anout 20c ea, witch isnt much more than ez felt.
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Re: Wrong type of EZ felt? [Re: San]
#15800443 - 02/12/12 09:14 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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12 jars is hardly enough data to make conclusive general statements like that.
You dont have to accept the data if you dont want to. I dont think anyone else has run a test similar to that one though. And I dont need agar plates to last as long as that test did anyway.
In my experience the EZ felt maintained the same standard as the commercial SFD's. A lot of experienced growers have used the stuff and have found that it works just fine for the average hobbiest. I haven't had any problems with it so far, and I use both the EZ felt and commercial SFD's. Both seem to work equally well for me, the big difference is that I can make 6 EZ felt wide mouth disks for about 2 bucks, and I can pick it up locally.
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12 jars is hardly enough data to make conclusive general statements like that.
You dont have to accept the data if you dont want to. I dont think anyone else has run a test similar to that one though. And I dont need agar plates to last as long as that test did anyway.
In my experience the EZ felt maintained the same standard as the commercial SFD's. A lot of experienced growers have used the stuff and have found that it works just fine for the average hobbiest. I haven't had any problems with it so far, and I use both the EZ felt and commercial SFD's. Both seem to work equally well for me, the big difference is that I can make 6 EZ felt wide mouth disks for about 2 bucks, and I can pick it up locally.
do that experiment with 100 jars for each filter, then you can call that "data" and believe me, your not the first to try this..
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Re: Wrong type of EZ felt? [Re: PureHash]
#15801167 - 02/12/12 11:28 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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do that experiment with 100 jars for each filter, then you can call that "data"
I did my own experiment, it was good enough for me. If you want to disprove it, then you do a hundred jars. Im good with my findings.
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your you're not the first to try this..
Cite your examples, and post the results.
Again, if you dont like it then dont accept it, and dont use EZ felt.
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Re: Wrong type of EZ felt? [Re: PureHash]
#15801269 - 02/13/12 12:00 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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12 jars is hardly enough data to make conclusive general statements like that.
You dont have to accept the data if you dont want to. I dont think anyone else has run a test similar to that one though. And I dont need agar plates to last as long as that test did anyway.
In my experience the EZ felt maintained the same standard as the commercial SFD's. A lot of experienced growers have used the stuff and have found that it works just fine for the average hobbiest. I haven't had any problems with it so far, and I use both the EZ felt and commercial SFD's. Both seem to work equally well for me, the big difference is that I can make 6 EZ felt wide mouth disks for about 2 bucks, and I can pick it up locally.
do that experiment with 100 jars for each filter, then you can call that "data" and believe me, your not the first to try this..
he doesnt need to use 100 jars. 12 jars was plenty, he wasnt checking anything mushroom related. He simply put some agar in jars. When testing you flow hood you dont need to leave a 100 petri dishes open to see if they get contaminated...
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