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Feb 9, 2012
A 16-year-old was arrested on Wednesday for possession of marijuana and drug paraphernalia.
A 16-year-old Fairfield resident was charged on Wednesday with possession of less than a half ounce of marijuana and drug paraphernalia after his mother turned the evidence into police.
According to the report, the mother brought before police some plastic baggies with marijuana, a scale, and a pipe; all allegedly belonged to her son.
http://fairfield.patch.com/articles/mom-turns-in-son-for-pot-possession
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: losfreddy]
#15797294 - 02/12/12 11:14 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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Way to foster that oh-so-important parent child bond.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: ToiletDuk]
#15797302 - 02/12/12 11:16 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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What a bitch
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: King Klick] 5
#15797326 - 02/12/12 11:22 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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Just imagine if she gets pulled on the way to the station and they don't buy her story. 
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: Inconspicuous]
#15797330 - 02/12/12 11:23 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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She'd get whats coming to her.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: losfreddy]
#15797386 - 02/12/12 11:36 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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Unfuckingbelievable. The drug war tears families apart. I really wish the mother had been busted on her way to the station though.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: Inconspicuous] 1
#15797400 - 02/12/12 11:40 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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Just imagine if she gets pulled on the way to the station and they don't buy her story.
damn! If only that really happened
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: The Vapor]
#15797579 - 02/12/12 12:15 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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There are situations in which her actions wouldn't be unreasonable.
I can understand why a parent wouldn't want her little brat dealing from her house. When I was in high school, a friend of mine was raided and her parents were thrown to the floor with guns pointed at them in their own house. I, too, would take measures to prevent something like this from happening.
16 year olds can be dumbfucks and sometimes require something shocking to get through their thick skulls.
I agree that the police apparatus used to deal with pot is redunkulous. Arguably, this woman is just playing into that. However, her actions might not represent the very worst in parenting.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: Me_Roy]
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: Me_Roy] 1
#15797843 - 02/12/12 01:05 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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that bitch smokes mexican shwag and was jelous that her son was getting kush
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: AnarchyXx420xX] 4
#15797849 - 02/12/12 01:06 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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That is a great way to get your kid to never talk to you again.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: AnarchyXx420xX] 1
#15797859 - 02/12/12 01:08 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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I don't know why would turn a stranger in let alone your son.
Wouldn't have been easier just to talk to him.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: AnarchyXx420xX] 3
#15797873 - 02/12/12 01:10 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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the mother should of been arrested for possession.
In today's vindictive world, ,mothers can do anything to keep their children from leaving home. even fucking up their future.
We can not believe the mom because we didn't find the child in possession of the pot.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: losfreddy] 1
#15797904 - 02/12/12 01:16 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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King Klick said:
What a bitch
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I really wish the mother had been busted on her way to the station though.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: hecticpicnic]
#15798051 - 02/12/12 01:42 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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I don't know why would turn a stranger in let alone your son.
Wouldn't have been easier just to talk to him.
A few of my friends in highschool were busted by their parents and they just got lectured/grounded and had to flush their stash.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: losfreddy] 1
#15798126 - 02/12/12 01:56 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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What a bitch.......Thats crossing the line. If a drug charge follows him into adulthood he will be unable to get financial aid and attend college. What a waste of life. Seriously hope the self rightous bitch dies a horrible isolated death away from the family she obviously wants out of her life
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: Real CA Milk]
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I don't think that charge will follow him into adulthood. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but only something very serious like murder and being tried as an adult for it would follow you.
Good thing he was 16. Had he been 18 or over, killing his mom wouldn't have been an unreasonable response for the son.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: Learyfan]
#15798240 - 02/12/12 02:17 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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The case gets...thrown out of the record at 18 unless he continues the record i believe. The judge can make it either way.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: King Klick]
#15798258 - 02/12/12 02:21 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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The financial aid app asks if you have ever been busted for drugs, not if you have been busted after the age of 18.
I don't think they do any kind of background check when processing the apps; many people recommend that students who have been busted for drugs should lie about it on the form. Lying on the form is a crime however.
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Maybe she tried talking to him about it and he wasn't listening. Single moms will especially get such a response, I have seen it happen before. It was a cowardice move, but we don't know her son or the mom. So we really can't say shit about them.
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The financial aid app asks if you have ever been busted for drugs, not if you have been busted after the age of 18.
I don't think they do any kind of background check when processing the apps; many people recommend that students who have been busted for drugs should lie about it on the form. Lying on the form is a crime however.
Yeah he could be potentially screwed if she doesn't know that just simple possession disqualifies you for any kind of financial aid for college. Not sure how the underage crime file gets erased for things like that though.
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Quote:
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The financial aid app asks if you have ever been busted for drugs, not if you have been busted after the age of 18.
I don't think they do any kind of background check when processing the apps; many people recommend that students who have been busted for drugs should lie about it on the form. Lying on the form is a crime however.
Yeah he could be potentially screwed if she doesn't know that just simple possession disqualifies you for any kind of financial aid for college. Not sure how the underage crime file gets erased for things like that though.
I'm not exactly an expert on FAFSA but I thought you were only disqualified if being convicted after previously receiving federal aid. I mean I have a felony drug charge and i'm still eligible. If I remember right I thought the question asks if you have been convicted of something WHILE receiving financial aid; or something very similar to that. And yes my charge was after I turned 18.
Sorry I just feel like having drug charges when you are young is overemphasized in regards to getting college money. At least so long as you don't screw up in the middle of getting the money.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: fungisfarmer]
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I got ya! I dont worry about it personally but my best friend was so worried he'd get caught for possession and didn't want to lose his availability of aid. He was the original one who told me about it anyways.
Glad you still have yours!
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I can relate to this kid, when I was 16 my dad turned me into the police chief. Luckily the cop just flushed the weed and told me that I'm a good kid and that I just need to straighten my life out and weed is gonna ruin my life and had a long talk with me. If I was charged with something I would have never forgiven him, and still resent him today for doing that shit to me.
Fucking idiotic parents. Really.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: Uzziel]
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I hope her son was an ******* and was arrogant and belligerent and thought no matter what he did, he couldn't get in trouble for having weed, even if he flashed it in front of a cops face and his mom had tried several times to stop him. If this was the situation, then he deserves to be screwed by the system.
However, if he was cautious, kind and a caring person and his mom just happened to find his stash and felt that turning him in to the police was "the right thing to do" then she was very foolish and the poor kid didn't deserve it, although, when your under 18 and living with your parent(s), you need to be responsible and follow the rules. Once your 18 and still living with your parents, if you don't do what they say, they can legally kick you out. Either way, having something illegal and living with your parent(s) which are not cool with it, is asking for trouble.
Having said that, I agree it would have been hilarious if she got pulled over and arrested for weed. Also, if cannabis was as legal as alcohol, it likely would have been the parent who got in trouble and it would have made it into a family issue, rather than the way it was handled. Unfortunately, the kid may turn into a legal alcoholic as a legal (when old enough), yet more harmful, alternative to cannabis.
Also, getting the law involved with people and drugs, is always a bad idea, unless you hate the person and are trying to ruin their life.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: guest1]
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At least he wasn't growing mushrooms. I guess.
Fuck that sounds like my mother when she walked in the house and the pot brownies were burning in the stove. That was so bad. Being 15 was a lot more fun tho 
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: Dystopia] 1
#15801344 - 02/13/12 12:27 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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What a fucking cunt. I mean kicking the kid out, back handing him a few times are options that would be much more reasonable than reporting him to the police. That is just fucking low and shows she was obviously incapable of being a decent parent.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: volcomstoner]
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: zZZz]
#15801962 - 02/13/12 07:02 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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What kind of mother turns her own son into the police for pot???
That kid has got to move out on his own.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: digitalemu]
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It just sucks so bad that the kid is so young and ignorant about the law and shit. If he played his cards right he could avoid any charge whatsoever! Or any police attention.
So what? His mom shows up to the station with Pot and suddenly its His  . Assuming he hadnt smoked that much if his system was clean he could pin it on his mom. Tell the police he was threatening to report her drug use because they had been fighting real bad. If he would deny everything (assuming there was nothing else left in his room) they would not have shit on him.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: Real CA Milk]
#15802238 - 02/13/12 09:01 AM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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What a fucking bitch. When I left home after visiting in January my mother found an empty bag that smelled like weed and said 'You're lucky she didn't tell the police'. This world is just so fucked up and it makes me so angry.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: blubfishy]
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what a bitch. you can't shelter your kids from the outside world forever.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: Mr.PhilCybin]
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sounds like the mom was in possession of the drugs to me, not the kid.
arrest the bitch!
but no srsly, BTW he's a minor so he'll be fine on financial aid, still...
hey, who knows maybe the kid really needed a wake-up call. just because she turned him in for weed doesnt mean that's the only "bad" things he was doing.
personally, I don't think minors should smoke weed. She should have taken it like a responsible parent and possibly taken away privileges that enable his drug use (like cars, sleeping at others' houses)
but to turn him in to the po-po's!! Wowww
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: King Klick]
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What a cunt.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: Phenom]
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I wonder what would have happened if he had denied that the pot was ever his. It's his word against his mother's, right? And she was the only one in possession as far as the police know, right?
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: Learyfan]
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Fingerprints.
While theoretically possible, I have never heard of police in the US fingerprinting drug evidence.
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I served on a grand jury a few years back. It's done (at least around here), although typically they just charge everyone.
I imagine in a "mom said, son said" case they could easily print the scale or paraphernalia.
The cost is so cheap, there'd be no reason not to do it.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: fungisfarmer]
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Alan Rockefeller said:
The financial aid app asks if you have ever been busted for drugs, not if you have been busted after the age of 18.
I don't think they do any kind of background check when processing the apps; many people recommend that students who have been busted for drugs should lie about it on the form. Lying on the form is a crime however.
Yeah he could be potentially screwed if she doesn't know that just simple possession disqualifies you for any kind of financial aid for college. Not sure how the underage crime file gets erased for things like that though.
I'm not exactly an expert on FAFSA but I thought you were only disqualified if being convicted after previously receiving federal aid. I mean I have a felony drug charge and i'm still eligible. If I remember right I thought the question asks if you have been convicted of something WHILE receiving financial aid; or something very similar to that. And yes my charge was after I turned 18.
Sorry I just feel like having drug charges when you are young is overemphasized in regards to getting college money. At least so long as you don't screw up in the middle of getting the money.
I dont know what they are talking about either, i have a possesion charge on public record and i get fafsa.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: Psychoslut]
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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I dont know what they are talking about either, i have a possesion charge on public record and i get fafsa.
How did you answer the drug question on your application form?
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I served on a grand jury a few years back. It's done (at least around here), although typically they just charge everyone.
I have never heard of it being done in the US, but I see no reason why they wouldn't do it. Maybe it just hasn't hit the news in any stories I have read.
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I imagine in a "mom said, son said" case they could easily print the scale or paraphernalia.
I think they would just charge the son and let the courts sort it out.
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The cost is so cheap, there'd be no reason not to do it.
I am surprised that I haven't heard of it being done. Seems so obvious. Yet I have never seen a newspaper story where they mentioned fingerprint evidence on the drugs.
What was serving on a grand jury like? Did you have to keep going back at a regular interval for a year?
Most people say that serving on a grand jury is a nightmare, but I would kill for that opportunity.
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im not sure man, i dont even remember a question about drugs. im sure i lied about it though. It would be pretty easy for them to find me out because my county posts your record on the internet.
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What was serving on a grand jury like?
It was depressing.
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Did you have to keep going back at a regular interval for a year?
No. It was 12 weeks. Three Wednesdays on, one off. It's a fairly rural area.
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Most people say that serving on a grand jury is a nightmare, but I would kill for that opportunity.
I'd sooner pluck my eyeballs out and eat them than go back.
The first day, the county prosecutor spoke to us as a group and showed us a video. At the end of the video I expected my fellow jurors to jump up, give the Nazi salute and shout in unison... "all hail the state"! The video was clearly designed to herd the people in the direction the state wanted them to go. The basic message? "If the state says that it is so... it is so."
Although it was fairly clear that several of the other jurors were pot users, they all voted to indict people for drug offenses. Although on the last day one other guy (who is AFOAF so I know he's a smoker) told me he too was going to vote to NOT indict in drug cases. I told him that I was sure that would be of great comfort to those he had already voted TO indict. He didn't speak to me again after that.
During one cultivation case, the prosecutor wanted us to indict a mentally disabled guy who had two half-dead plants in Dixie cups in his attic. The prosecutor told us he was doing it to "help" the guy. My fellow jurors jumped at the chance to "help".
Some of the jurors were clearly just out of high school. They rambled on about pot being a gateway drug. Some jurors were clearly hung-over. Personally, I was left feeling like they were simply wanting to stick it to someone to help justify their miserable existence.
The "evidence" presented was in many cases laughable.
How many people did I help save from indictment? Zero. All the state needed was a majority of the 24 jurors. Are you familiar with the phrase "I could indict a ham sandwich"? You can get a majority to indict anyone or anything.
Lest you think I blindly voted not to indict drug users, I did vote to indict two. One stole her moms scrip for pain pills and was caught on video tape at the local pharmacy having the scrip filled. The other was so wasted he couldn't walk, let alone drive. He caused an accident which nearly killed someone.
The sheer stupidity of my fellow jurors was depressing, and did nothing but foster the feeling that mankind as a whole, is doomed.
I weep for our future.
And for doing our civic duty, we each earned 15 dollars per day.
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Oh, a further tidbit.
Out of the hundreds of cases we heard... how many times did the grand jury vote NOT to indict?
One.
Yup. One. And that case was brought back up a couple weeks later. The same evidence was presented in a slightly different way.
The result?
Indicted.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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That sounds awful, sorry you had to go through that. I see why they say the grand jury is a rubber stamp. I didn't realize that all they had to do was convince a majority out of 24.
With no defense present, I don't see how anyone could ever not be indicted. On the case they didn't indict, why was that?
What were the cases like where you voted no for indictment?
Did anyone vote no with you?
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That sounds awful, sorry you had to go through that. I see why they say the grand jury is a rubber stamp. I didn't realize that all they had to do was convince a majority out of 24.
I was pretty surprised as well.
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With no defense present, I don't see how anyone could ever not be indicted.
Exactly. The deck is stacked.
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On the case they didn't indict, why was that?
It was a case where someone over 18 was feeling up someone under 16. There were no witnesses, and no proof. The girl didn't even want to proceed but mommy insisted.
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What were the cases like where you voted no for indictment?
Almost all were simple possession cases. Some were caught traveling. Some were at home. A few small time sales (friend to friend). I did vote not to indict in a couple theft cases where the evidence simply wasn't there. A couple fights where two drunk buddies punched each other a few times. Several were he said' she said cases with no actual evidence.
I'd say a rough estimate of my votes would be 75% to, 25% to not.
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Did anyone vote no with you?
On the drugs? Sadly there was only one or two dissenting votes in a few cases. On the other (non-drug) cases there were occasionally minority no votes, but they were rare.
I was momentarily tempted to vote to indict in one cultivation case:
Person A was growing weed along a power line trail. One morning he arrived to tend his crop, only to discover state and local cops, sheriffs and DEA running around. Now any halfway intelligent human would have drove right by. Nope. He stopped and wandered up asking questions of the "what's going on" variety. They escorted him back to his vehicle where in his vehicle they observed...
buckets
soil
fertilizer (the containers just happened to be the same type found at the scene)
water containers
shovels
baggies.
I was tempted to vote to indict just to remove a person of such incredible stupidity from the gene pool. My fellow jurors had no problem indicting.
The entire experience made it tempting (haha) to give up voting, except they also use drivers license records, property tax rolls and more when selecting jurors.
The plus side of this? Well even though I have exercised extreme caution throughout my life (never busted) I am now even more careful than before. I know that if it happens to me, indictment will follow.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: luvdemshrooms] 1
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Jury nullification. More information here.
An educated juror can refuse to enforce corrupt laws.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: Mike Reynolds]
#15807409 - 02/14/12 08:11 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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This isn't a jury, it is a grand jury. He can refuse all he wants but they are still going to indict.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: Mike Reynolds]
#15807504 - 02/14/12 08:49 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Mike Reynolds said:
Jury nullification. More information here.
An educated juror can refuse to enforce corrupt laws.
Perhaps you are unaware of the difference between a jury and a grand jury.
I did my part, but 1 voice among 24 is hard to hear.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: luvdemshrooms] 1
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I served on a grand jury a few years back. It's done (at least around here), although typically they just charge everyone.
I imagine in a "mom said, son said" case they could easily print the scale or paraphernalia.
The cost is so cheap, there'd be no reason not to do it.
Still, both of their fingerprints are on the contraband.
It's completely feasible that he touched a plastic bag in his OWN HOME before his mother put marijuana in it.
SAme with the "paraphernalia" which i think is probably like a pipe. if she carried it in then its possible his prints were wiped off, but hers are almost definitely on there.
As a matter of fact, if both of their prints are on the weed I would assume that they smoked it together.
Let's charge the bitch with endangering a minor, possession of a controlled substance, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, distribution of a controlled substance to a minor. ahhh the charges just keep going and going 
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: NWlight]
#15807634 - 02/14/12 09:33 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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scumbagsteve would let his mom fall for his weed.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: NWlight]
#15807682 - 02/14/12 09:47 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Still, both of their fingerprints are on the contraband.
Likely, if it was his.
However, my response was to Learyfan's suggestion that the son claim the stuff was not his and that the stuff was never in his possession. My response of "fingerprints" was intended to show that it wouldn't be hard for the cops to prove otherwise.
Unless he always wore gloves when handling the goods.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
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Mike Reynolds said:
Jury nullification. More information here.
An educated juror can refuse to enforce corrupt laws.
Perhaps you are unaware of the difference between a jury and a grand jury.
I did my part, but 1 voice among 24 is hard to hear.
And it was great that you did your part. I was just trying to "educate the masses". Imagine if the majority of jurors saw it your way.
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Re: Mom Turns in Son for Pot Possession [Re: Mike Reynolds]
#15807762 - 02/14/12 10:09 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Well, you got me there. The "masses" do need educating.
However, they do need to know as well that there is a difference between the two types of juries, and that what works for one will be of no use for the other.
Keep spreading the word though. I'm always pleased to see others that are aware of jury nullification.
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