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#15791690 - 02/11/12 07:04 AM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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Will Frustrated Moms and Cops End the Drug War?
February 10, 2012 - AlterNet
It will be moms who come to rescue their children from the deadly grip of prohibition, and police against the drug war are eagerly ready to support them in this quest.
It Takes a Village to Raise a Child / It takes a Community to Restore Lives & Liberties that have been Lost to the Failed War on Drugs
There was a time in our history when parents depended on their neighborhood policeman, as well as clergy and teachers, to help in guiding their children to good decision-making. For the last several decades, many mothers whose children have experimented with drugs, or who have problems with addiction, have begun to distrust cops and the entire criminal justice system... with good reason.
Addiction, one of our greatest public health problems, is a chronic relapsing disease. One in four families is dealing directly with addictive illness. Unfortunately, due to stigma and discrimination, it has been altogether too easy for our society to arrest and banish these individuals behind bars, rather than to manage the disease by health care professionals using science-based, health-oriented strategies.
One of us is a mom who has painfully watched as her children have struggled with addiction. One of us is a retired police officer who has seen up close how our drug laws not only do nothing to solve addiction problems but in many cases make them worse.
Gretchen's two sons have addictive illness. Her older son was arrested for marijuana possession in 1990, and spent over a decade of his life cycling through the criminal justice system for non-violent drug offenses and relapse. This was a tragic waste of human potential, a painful saga for the family and a tremendous misuse of taxpayer dollars. But this family's story is not unique. Countless families now must deal with both the devastation of the disease and the harmful effects of punitive incarceration. These numbers are disproportionately high in communities of color or poverty. This is a human rights issue. Together we can and must end this injustice.
Moms United to End the War on Drugs is a national campaign of A New PATH (Parents for Addiction Treatment & Healing) in partnership with a growing number of organizations and individuals in a massive collaborative effort to stop the violence, mass incarceration and overdose deaths that are a result of current punitive and discriminatory drug policies. Knowing that mothers were instrumental in ending alcohol prohibition in the US in the 1930's, mothers are again leading the charge to end the 40-year failed war on drugs and the devastation that has been caused by it. They are advocating for therapeutic drug policies that reduce the harms of drugs and current drug laws.
Moms are major stakeholders in this war that has been waged against our own families, so we must voice the concerns for the futures of our children. Cops are also stakeholders, as they are charged with being accountable for public safety and putting themselves in the line of fire to enforce current drug policies. It is the overarching policy of prohibition, rather than the individual cops, that is to blame.
Many law enforcement professionals are now speaking out for repeal of prohibition, and advocating for replacing it with a tight system of legalized regulation, which will cripple the violent cartels and street dealers who control the illegal drug market. Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP) is an international organization of criminal justice professionals who bear personal witness to the wasteful futility and harms of our current drug policies. Their mission is to reduce the multitude of unintended harmful consequences resulting from fighting the war on drugs, and to lessen the incidence of death, disease, crime and addiction by ending drug prohibition.
Neill Franklin's 34-year law enforcement career has given him up-close and personal insight to the deadly impact of prohibition. From friends being killed in the line of duty to the recruitment of children into the deadly game of drug dealing, he knows the trauma inflicted upon families and the pain experienced by mothers when their children are forever lost to addiction, drug gangs, prison and death. Neill has always had a great respect for the moral authority of mothers and he recalls how his mom always seemed to know when something was wrong. Moms generally know when their children are in grave danger and many refer to this as a mother's intuition. Because of a compelling desire to protect their children, it was mothers who played one of the most significant roles in bringing alcohol prohibition to its knees and ultimately an end. Neill believes that it must be and will be moms who once again come to rescue their children from the deadly grip of prohibition, and the cops of LEAP are eagerly ready to support them in this quest.
We are proud to announce the partnership of moms & cops and our commitment in working to change current drug policies from arrest and mass incarceration to therapeutic and restorative policies that will reduce the damage to our communities while improving public safety.
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Re: Will Frustrated Moms and Cops End the Drug War? [Re: veggie]
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Re: Will Frustrated Moms and Cops End the Drug War? [Re: veggie]
#15792411 - 02/11/12 11:17 AM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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Louder and louder do the anti-prohibition voices grow. I hope we can at least see Cannabis made legal in our lifetime.
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Re: Will Frustrated Moms and Cops End the Drug War? [Re: ToiletDuk]
#15792802 - 02/11/12 12:43 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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Quote:
ToiletDuk said:
Louder and louder do the anti-prohibition voices grow. I hope we can at least see Cannabis made legal in our lifetime.
In our lifetimes? Are you kidding? It's going to happen WAY before the end of our lifetimes.
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Re: Will Frustrated Moms and Cops End the Drug War? [Re: pwnasaurus]
#15792863 - 02/11/12 12:59 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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ReallY? I have been fighting for 40 years and thought it would end 30 years ago. 
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Re: Will Frustrated Moms and Cops End the Drug War? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#15793134 - 02/11/12 02:04 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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ReallY? I have been fighting for 40 years and thought it would end 30 years ago.
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Re: Will Frustrated Moms and Cops End the Drug War? [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#15793234 - 02/11/12 02:30 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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But honestly the Internet, I think, has helped in a way no one could have ever thought. Media and Govt and all the naysayers who say THC/weed/cannabinoids are harmful and kill brain cells(gotta love those eggs fryin on the commercials) are just an outright lies. The internet has helped spread information alot easier and the people have been able to make their own conclusions on actual evidence, rather than just being spoon fed information and assume its true because they say so.
Point is, the goverment is going to screw themselves over eventually and more and more people will see that it, like doctors have been saying, is the most theraputically active substance known to man with least harmful effects.
I just believe we have more of a chance at rescheduling it down a few classes rather than just outright legalization. I do want it regulated so that the children wont get ahold of it recreationally, but anyone else should be ok in my books. 
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Re: Will Frustrated Moms and Cops End the Drug War? [Re: runningfox2002]
#15793828 - 02/11/12 04:45 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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It's probably gonna happen in the next 10 years.
One TV station airs a neutral show on weed, 5 more follow. Now we have dozens of TV shows about weed that are mostly truthful, and thousands of marijuana-haters changing their minds every day.
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Re: Will Frustrated Moms and Cops End the Drug War? [Re: CrossingTheStar]
#15795492 - 02/11/12 10:24 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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obama would be tRickY DiCk NixonEd if he legalized pot
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Re: Will Frustrated Moms and Cops End the Drug War? [Re: aiyobro]
#15796248 - 02/12/12 04:01 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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You have to understand that this isn't about pot. It's about the model prohibition that failed for every drug. It's about showing the public its inefficiences, harms and the huge hypocrisy that builds up its fundaments. It's about criminal prosecution of racial minorities as well as the undermining of human and citizen rights.
Those are the reasons that can and will end prohibition and we would be well advised to cooperate with the ones that the average drug user avoids at all cost: Cops and emotionally-charged moms.
Those are the ones we ought to talk to, those are the ones that currently support the "war on drugs" out of lack of information, misinformation and ignorance.
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Re: Will Frustrated Moms and Cops End the Drug War? [Re: aiyobro]
#15796253 - 02/12/12 04:06 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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Weed will be legalized very soon. My guesstimate is within the next five years for Canada, ten for the states.
Hopefully once they do, I do not hear anyone complaining about legalizing more drugs like meth and crack, that will push me over the friggin edge.
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Re: Will Frustrated Moms and Cops End the Drug War? [Re: HybridprX]
#15796321 - 02/12/12 05:02 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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Of course, it's also about legalizing socalled hard drugs like meth, crack and heroin.
This is where the war on drugs has been causing most harm to the individual and a major thread to health.
Edited by Lord_McLovin (02/12/12 05:03 AM)
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Re: Will Frustrated Moms and Cops End the Drug War? [Re: Lord_McLovin]
#15796354 - 02/12/12 05:21 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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No, its the idiots ingesting substances with the highest addiction rates that make them a threat to their own health.
I do not want to contribute taxes to people who want to sit around all day, shooting up and smoking crack. I know what junkies are all about, they give up on life and resort to drugs, get hooked and then bleed the system dry.
To hell with that man...I guess I'm that guy that tells people "Get a job you fucking bums"
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Re: Will Frustrated Moms and Cops End the Drug War? [Re: Lord_McLovin]
#15796384 - 02/12/12 05:39 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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I think all this apathy between you and me is there because we misunderstand each other.
Noone wants to see crack in the supermarket. We want to put people out of business who do make loads of money out of the misery of addicts. We want to be able to get people who get addicted into the health system as soon as possible, reduce the harm done by drugs and prevent the appearance of drug epidemics in the first place. We need to get a chance to talk honestly with people about their drug use and abuse and most of all prevent them from getting killed themselves and hurt other people because of their addiction.
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No, its the idiots ingesting substances with the highest addiction rates that make them a threat to their own health.
I do not want to contribute taxes to people who want to sit around all day, shooting up and smoking crack. I know what junkies are all about, they give up on life and resort to drugs, get hooked and then bleed the system dry.
To hell with that man...I guess I'm that guy that tells people "Get a job you fucking bums"
Even though you might not believe me, to a very large extent I agree and I understand you.
Yet you have to accept the fact that it's the current system that promotes the misery of those people in the first place. Ending prohibition, starting to regulate these drugs and helping addicts translates into paying less taxes and preventing such problems.
Imagine the addict has to talk to a social worker every time before buying the drug, imagine all this money he gives to criminals at the moment will then fund his rehabilitation.
I'm not blue eyed and think people will suddenly stop using drugs just because they get their drugs from the government. Yet you can make sure that those drugs are clean and of known purity. You can make sure that criminals have no interest in getting someone hooked onto the drug. You can make sure they survive and don't bleed the system dry. And you can make sure that they don't socially isolate themselves up to the point that the drug is all they have left in their lifes.
We know the harms done by the current system and we know its tremendous cost. Let's try something that will very likely work better.
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Re: Will Frustrated Moms and Cops End the Drug War? [Re: Lord_McLovin]
#15796422 - 02/12/12 06:02 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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I hope it's legal in the US within the next ten years. I'd love to be able to move to my families farm when i'm around age 40 and be able to grow my own plants free of fear
Going to go clean the bong and dream of this not too distant future
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Re: Will Frustrated Moms and Cops End the Drug War? [Re: Lord_McLovin]
#15796424 - 02/12/12 06:06 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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If you put it that way Lord_Mclovin, I agree.
It would be nice if they regulated and controlled it in a clinical environment for existing users. But I do not see any ones argument about using opium for a legitimate purpose when they have that meth drink out now to ween people off of it.
My good friend for eight years just got off his last ml of meth after being addicted to opiates for three years of his life, he started at 80ml and gradually dropped. So I guess what im saying is that people should know that these drugs will fuck your life right up and legalization should not be mistook for a opportunity to abuse them.
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Re: Will Frustrated Moms and Cops End the Drug War? [Re: HybridprX]
#15796482 - 02/12/12 06:40 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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If you put it that way Lord_Mclovin, I agree.
It would be nice if they regulated and controlled it in a clinical environment for existing users.
Something like this has been done at many places in Europe (e.g. Frankfurt, Berlin, Zurich) with remarkable success.
I have talked to some of the people working there about drug policy, i.e. those people that see the misery of their clients every day. You know what they said?
Every single one of them was in favor or legalizing and creating a controlled marked, because they see what this system of drug prohibition does to people, how it destroys their lives and families.
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But I do not see any ones argument about using opium for a legitimate purpose when they have that meth drink out now to ween people off of it.
To many opiate addicts methadone has horrendous side effects and it is widely considered even more physically addictive than heroin. There is a reason why many users call it green poison (in Europe at least). Giving out heroin to addicts means:
a) they are given a drug they are used to and they don't have to deal with unknown side effects
b) they are more likely to get into treatment
c) they are able to get a job and get their lives fixed as they don't have to wander the streets all day robbing people and looking for their next ball of heroin
This has also been tried and those are the major reasons why giving out heroin (as opposed to methadone) to addicts in Hamburg was such a success.
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My good friend for eight years just got off his last ml of meth after being addicted to opiates for three years of his life, he started at 80ml and gradually dropped. So I guess what im saying is that people should know that these drugs will fuck your life right up and legalization should not be mistook for a opportunity to abuse them.
Absolutely. Legalization should be viewed as a possibility to finally regulate those drugs and prevent abuse. Let's face it: people that want to do coke or meth will get it at one point. So let's make sure that this stupidity doesn't get their as well as their family's life fucked up.
If you are interested have a look at the report of the global commission on drug policy or at countthecosts.org.
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Re: Will Frustrated Moms and Cops End the Drug War? [Re: Lord_McLovin]
#15796928 - 02/12/12 09:21 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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I give marijuana legalization 5 years max for the U.S.
These sorts of things, especially with the internet,
seem to progress exponentially. We can only hope so, at least.
But who knows, I just read the other day that there are
about to be 30,000 drones flying over the U.S. 600 per state.
It's like nationwide security cameras. So...
while the anti-prohibition efforts progress,
so are the ever-forming United Police States.
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