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 fireworks_god
SexyButt McDanger
Registered: 03/12/02
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Loc: Red Panda Village
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trigger said:
i do not plan to carve anything typical of chainsaw carving (no bears! eagles, fish, alligators, raccoon's, ext.
My advice would be to drop this ridiculous line in the sand. I thought you were going to do this stuff professionally, with the purpose of earning an income to support your family. Now you're specifying what you won't produce? If you're an artist with no obligations and responsibilities, you can create whatever the fuck you want. If you're simply focusing on earning an income for a family while doing something you love, you make what your god damn customers want you to make, at least in the short-term. Why would you take a list of things that people typically want to buy in your domain and turn away money for no good reason?
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 Icelander
The Minstrel in the Gallery
Registered: 03/15/05
Posts: 67,605
Loc: underbelly
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This is very good advice. If you want to be in a position to only take the jobs one wants that privilege will need to be earned by doing whatever comes along and likely for a long time. Unless of course you're already rich. Hell you don't even have all your tools yet.
I did a lot of shit I didn't want to do but I did it and made the most of it and was retired by 54.
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"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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trigger
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Registered: 08/13/06
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good point, i am currently carving sports action figures, life size and trying to make them as life like as possible(tool limited). Before i started carving, i had been working for a carver, he told me that a guy wanted a bunch of baseball and football players, and was bugging him to get some carved. the man i worked for did not make figures and i was broke at the time, so i figured why not give it a try. The guy bought my carving and three others after that, he is waiting for more. my next 4 are sold, and if the guy who is buying my sculptures is satisfied he will continue to buy.
i am hesitant to dive in to what my buyer is exactly doing for he has not discussed much with me. he says he is investing in me(buying sculptures at (1/4th-1/3rd price) and shipping them to sports clubs and stadiums on display. he claims that as he develops a collection, he will also be building a web sight and then becoming a representative to resale the sculptures.
what i do know for sure about the situation is that he is a upper end middle class banker with some very rich sports fanatic friends.
i take this only for what it is currently, and that the buyer is giving me an opportunity to start work as an artist.
typically carvers go on the road and do shows at festivals, selling their art along the way.
i would like to create a gallery and try to get it exhibited. such as the field of dreams mentioned in the above post.
My plan for a theme on a gallery, hasn't been chosen yet and i need to asap. I have narrowed it to three choices with an open door for others. once i start i must finish and to create a gallery of work could take a year or three.
my ideas are; 1, life like gods from the world around, like a centaur, a pharaoh, buddah, jeasus on a cross, maybe the arch angel michal standing on the devil, a phoenix or griffin perhaps, ext.
idea2 a bondage dungon with figures tied up haing from walls, maybe a big wheel with a naked gimp tied to it(a functional piece that u can spin) sexy girls with whips and chains, ext.
idea 3 its kind hard to explain, but its a collection of colorful boxy and curvy bold geometric interpretations of daily life. like a shiny wood cube that represents a tv, a large golden arch that is a goat, a human figure, bulbous and with out features (crash dummy like), in ways i want to carve things that look like late 80's computer graphics of reality. i would have to post some pics to get the visual of what i am talking about, my words fail me.
well as i am creating sports figures i want to start this gallery on the side, and finish it with in a year or two. i plan to pay my home off in 3 years (it is only 24k, 18k to go) I would like to sell my home or just mortgage it, (iam buying in cash) and then open the doors to living somewhere more suitable for my family and art career.
any input on my three ideas?
and fireworks_god, yet it was a bit ridiculous to say, i should keep the doors open, (currently carving sports figures, i hate sports) i do not intend to take that path that most chainsaw carvers take, i want a more professional route, typically carvers create folk art, and sell in small market.
i relay want to put on a mask and jumpsuit, grab my 80cc monster saw, block a 120yr old log, the grab my lil saw and carve it up, then maybe hook up a jacobs latter and a few electrical arches to burn off the ruff wood(something i haven't done yet, tho within my means), or just torch it. putting on a show, all with a gallery for sale. its practical and will happen but to what extent? i am not sure as i just started carving.
Yeah i am a bit eccentric, I do much appreciate the conversation, advises and ideas, please keep them coming especially if you have read my ramblings thus far.
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fireworks_god
SexyButt McDanger
Registered: 03/12/02
Posts: 23,674
Loc: Red Panda Village
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Well, it definitely seems like you have a lot of great ideas, and the capacities to make it happen, and clearly enthusiasm to boot considering the way you vividly express your ideas here, so those are all huge pluses in terms of making your dreams come true, both the ideal and the practical. 
What's your sleep schedule like? Actually, your schedule in general, more in detail (like, for example, in segments of a half-hour). If you organize yourself in the right ways, I think it'll be a lot easier to maximize your efforts each day.
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If I should die this very moment
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For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
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OrgoneConclusion
Pharoah & Balanced
Registered: 04/01/07
Posts: 29,385
Loc: Luxor
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Trigger should draw the line somewhere - NO RED PANDAS!  Only animals native to North America.
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Panoramix
Getafix
Registered: 11/26/03
Posts: 634
Loc: Everywhere else
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You mention you live in the boonies. I assume then that you have some sort of motor vehicle, ideally a truck? And that most of your tools are gas-powered? I'm not sure how it is in your area, but around here there are lots of spots where you could be noisy with a chainsaw without anyone complaining. It's not the most practical solution, given that the logs and equipment you're working with are quite heavy, but maybe you could do your work elsewhere? Sleep late, have a slow, relaxed morning of packing up your vehicle while you're still sluggish. Be ready to go by the early afternoon, head out somewhere suitable and work until you're satisfied with the amount you've gotten done. By somewhere suitable, I'm thinking a farmer's field. If you were on Wolfe Island, I know of half a dozen farms where if you drove up to their house, knocked, were polite and explained that you're a carver and you work with chainsaws and need a place to carve without disturbing anyone, they'd let you use their back 40 for a pittance. If you were going to be doing it periodically you could probably work out a longer-term rate for land use that would be very inexpensive, relatively speaking. Most farmers I know would be happy for the chance to earn some extra money off their land provided you only left behind wood chips and sawdust. When the sun goes down, have a pole to hang a trouble-light off of and your vehicle's headlights on dimmer lighting up your workspace from the other side. And maybe some tiki torches for atmosphere...
Hmm, maybe it's a crazy idea, and totally unworkable to your situation. As far as advice goes, though, it HAS to be at least as good as 'un-have your kid'.
Your concept of wealth seems spot on. It's best not to have waited until a loved one dies to realize that time spent with family (oftentimes the family you make or choose for yourself) is the most valuable thing in the world.
Anyways, you seem to have the two most important pieces of advice I would give you figured out for yourself. 1. Don't try to fight your body's natural rhythms, particularly if you're engaging in creative processes. If your body wants to work in the evenings, try to find a way to work in the evenings. 2. Get away from that upper-middle class banker as quickly as you responsibly can. Those sports-fanatic fuckers throw ridiculous amounts of money around for jerseys and paraphanalia and shit. I shudder to think how much that banker guy is likely making off of the sale of your sculptures, just because he runs in the right circles.
As for your ideas for alternate subject matter, it seems like the least marketable, but I found #3 to be by far the most interesting-sounding. My head says you should ignore esoteric artsy stuff until you're more established and comfortable, but my gut says that maybe your #3 ideas are the ones that get you established in the first place. You're so close to living your dream, I'm frankly quite envious.
And don't worry, I'll hold the proper funeral services for the innocent souls of the lovely old trees whose corpses you so ruthlessly massacre with your chainsaws on your behalf.
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