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Questions gradually resetting my Cannabis tolerance
    #15791391 - 02/11/12 03:55 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

I've been smoking pot every single day (MMJ, high quality herb) for the last 2 years, and I've recently decided to change my habits to the Terrence McKenna method of Cannabis consumption (where you only smoke it once a week, but in massive quantities to experience the full psychedelic effects, which if done once a week will reset your tolerance to zero by the next time you smoke it)

Now I haven't smoked any for 9 days, and my plan is to make Saturday nights my weed smoking night. My question is, should I wait the full month for my tolerance to completely reset to zero or can I begin smoking it on only Saturdays and have my tolerance gradually reset to zero with the weekly 6.5 day T-breaks that I will be taking from now on? (I'm gonna be smoking at least 2g each saturday)

Keep in mind as well that I'm a distance runner and hit the gym 4 times a week (so I often have anandimide working on my CB receptors). I was lifting and running 4 times a week the entire time through my chronic pot use, and when I quit smoking it every day I upped my exercise regiment to 6 days a week (to help counteract the sleep difficulties associated with quitting a chronic pot smoking habit) and began running an extra mile every day, so I've had a pretty constant release of Anandimide in my brain. I am also training for a Half-Marathon this summer and will be upping my weekly mileage by 3 miles a week every single week, so I'm gonna be experiencing that Anandimide release every single non-pot smoking day.


Even with the increased exercise I've still been sleeping pretty bad and would like to smoke tonight so I can get some sleep before the work week starts again, though I would end up waiting another 7 days before I smoked again. Would smoking 2g slow down my tolerance reset too much even if I was only doing it saturday?


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Re: Questions gradually resetting my Cannabis tolerance [Re: Oohway]
    #15791775 - 02/11/12 07:37 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

I think you'd reach the point of not being able to get any higher well before 2g.  Especially with a low tolerance.  I smoke daily and only us 0.2g to get me a decent high.


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Re: Questions gradually resetting my Cannabis tolerance [Re: Phenom]
    #15792351 - 02/11/12 11:01 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

What he said ^ also I think your taking this a bit to far, I dounbt it would matter if you sat on your ass all week, if your only smokin on saturday nights, one sesh, your tolerance will almost always be at 0.  Shit I smoke at least 3 times a day and if I don't smoke for even 2 days my I'm pretty much at baseline in terms of tolerance.


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Re: Questions gradually resetting my Cannabis tolerance [Re: briant230]
    #15792384 - 02/11/12 11:10 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

Weed doesn't make you have hallucinogenic trips, you could go ten years without smoking and it still wont happen. Weed has a ceiling for getting high, and it's far less than 2 grams. If you want to trip take a large dose of shrooms, mescaline, or acid..


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Re: Questions gradually resetting my Cannabis tolerance [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #15792463 - 02/11/12 11:27 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

i've had psychedelic weed trips pjunkie. It is possible.


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Re: Questions gradually resetting my Cannabis tolerance [Re: underfliptown]
    #15792477 - 02/11/12 11:31 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

I've had some pretty strong sativa highs, especially when first smoking that could be considered a "trip" but definitely not even close to a moderate dose of the classic psychs. Combining even the smallest bit of weed with a dose of something else can totally shoot you into another dimension though. If you haven't smoked for 9 days you ought to get pretty smacked when you do decide to light back up.


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Re: Questions gradually resetting my Cannabis tolerance [Re: Phenom]
    #15792507 - 02/11/12 11:38 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

I didn't know McKenna said that, but that's how I've always consumed cannabis (until I was arrested recently), but it definitely works, I got blasted every time.  It's ridiculous how high you get off of small amounts of weed, like 1-2 bowls puts you in space every time especially if you get good weed.  To everyone who says you can't trip, I've had CEV's before (only the first few times though, never again), and sometimes I get insane rushes of euphoria through my body.


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Re: Questions gradually resetting my Cannabis tolerance [Re: TheJollyRancher]
    #15792511 - 02/11/12 11:39 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

haha!



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Re: Questions gradually resetting my Cannabis tolerance [Re: underfliptown]
    #15792597 - 02/11/12 11:56 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

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haha!







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Re: Questions gradually resetting my Cannabis tolerance [Re: TheJollyRancher]
    #15792617 - 02/11/12 12:02 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

When if first started smoking I did have somewhat hallucinogenic highs.  In the dark I saw multicolored pixelated snowflakes all over my visual field and had some CEVs.  I also noticed that in the light everything looked 2D, but say at different depths almost like those picture books with the cardboard images that pop up from it.  Now I just get stoned and I'm okay with that, I love it either way.


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Re: Questions gradually resetting my Cannabis tolerance [Re: underfliptown]
    #15792632 - 02/11/12 12:07 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

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i've had psychedelic weed trips pjunkie. It is possible.



Ok...


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Re: Questions gradually resetting my Cannabis tolerance [Re: Oohway]
    #15792874 - 02/11/12 01:04 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

:3 Psychedelic =/= hallucinogenic

I'm an experienced tripper having done a very large pharmacopeia of hallucinogenics and I understand that the most Cannabis will do for visuals is make your mental imagery more apparent to your attention than when you are sober.

Cannabis is however most definitely a mind-manifester (definition of psychedelic) and it is that manifestation of the mind that I am seeking. If I wanted visuals I would just vape some DMT in my GVG.

I appreciate the input on the tolerance folks, looks like I will be smoking some top shelf Lemon Skunk and 84% Sativa Hash tonight, I am soooo looking forward to getting blitzed out of my mind! ^_^


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Re: Questions gradually resetting my Cannabis tolerance [Re: briant230]
    #15792934 - 02/11/12 01:17 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

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What he said ^ also I think your taking this a bit to far, I dounbt it would matter if you sat on your ass all week, if your only smokin on saturday nights, one sesh, your tolerance will almost always be at 0.  Shit I smoke at least 3 times a day and if I don't smoke for even 2 days my I'm pretty much at baseline in terms of tolerance.





Thats good to know and I appreciate the info. This is my first time taking a T-break so I'm pretty ignorant on how lowering a Cannabis tolerance works and I am definitely looking into it too much, I just really, really want to be able to get high as a motherfucker again :p


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Re: Questions gradually resetting my Cannabis tolerance [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #15792944 - 02/11/12 01:19 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

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Weed doesn't make you have hallucinogenic trips, you could go ten years without smoking and it still wont happen. Weed has a ceiling for getting high, and it's far less than 2 grams. If you want to trip take a large dose of shrooms, mescaline, or acid..




Once again, you're flaunting your massive ego around.  Are you seriously going to contradict a large proportion of this forum and a well-respected author of psychedelic literature and say it is totally impossible to experience weed as a potent psychedelic, just because you haven't experienced such things?

I have experienced things on heavy doses of cannabis with an absence of tolerance that would probably astound you, and just because it doesn't feel like other psychedelics (because it isn't other psychedelics) doesn't mean that it can't take you for a wild psychedelic ride of its own nature.  I have experienced time dilation more intense than a lot of my acid trips, I've experienced stronger body feelings than I did on 3.5g of mushrooms, I've had out of body experiences, I've experienced OEV's that blew my mind, and I've been through headfucks that would rival plenty of my trips on other psychedelics as well.  Just because you are too rooted in your ego to get past what you regard as the ceiling of its effects, doesn't mean everybody is.  :rolleyes:


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i've had psychedelic weed trips pjunkie. It is possible.



Ok...



I don't give a shit if you're a mod, you need to grow the hell up.  You have no respect for anybody but yourself and no respect for the potential of the psychedelic experience.  If you are so damned closed-minded why are you even here other than to spread your own dogma?


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Re: Questions gradually resetting my Cannabis tolerance [Re: tokinman21]
    #15792972 - 02/11/12 01:29 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

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Re: Questions gradually resetting my Cannabis tolerance [Re: eat my fuck]
    #15793120 - 02/11/12 02:01 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

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Re: Questions gradually resetting my Cannabis tolerance [Re: eat my fuck]
    #15793137 - 02/11/12 02:05 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

Yeah that should work just fine I've thought of doing this myself. But what is the point in smoking that much by yourself once a week? What do you intend on getting from this? Might as well do a real psychedelic if you want to waste 2g a week. Like others have said once you reach a certain point its just a waste.

Who knows though, I'm just trying to stop doing it daily because it keeps me from being creative. Although recently I've been doing things stoned I can't use the weed as an excuse anymore lol.


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Re: Questions gradually resetting my Cannabis tolerance [Re: BobFromReboot]
    #15793223 - 02/11/12 02:27 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

I can understand why people are wondering why I'd be doing 2g's, and I guess I should expain that I would be smoking it over a period of 6-8 hours, not all at once

If I wanted to trip, I would just do DMT or Mescaline

and I am doing this because I have been a chronic insomniac since the age of 12 and cannabis has been the only drug to ever give me a profoundly restful sleep. If I can get blitzed and sleep deeply once a week, then excercising the other six days will be enough to help me be rested through the work week and college semester.

>>>Just making this clear, I am not attempting to trip on weed! Just get profoundly restful sleep and an opportunity slow down enough so I can recover on my off day from my training schedule and my mind can sort out a week of college classes<<<

Edit: the entire reason I began smoking weed was because I had reached a point where I was having to go to high school 5 days a week on only 2 hours of sleep everynight and got so fed up with that kind of low quality of living that I was willing to try anything, and I had read that weed helped with insomnia. After I discovered that it gave me deep sleep I eventually started using it every day, and then my tolerance started going through the roof. Sleep is my main motivator here. (I have had tons of pharmaceuticals pushed on me and nothing has ever worked other than weed)


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Re: Questions gradually resetting my Cannabis tolerance [Re: Oohway]
    #15793815 - 02/11/12 04:44 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

Cannabis + walking or meditation = very psychedelic headspace for me. 
Cannabis + Family Guy marathon = giggly couch lock

So, its set and setting dependent, but MJ can definitely take you to some interesting places.  After you pop your high cherry its hard to get into really visual places IME, but at first there was severe depth perception distortions, audio hallucinations, dreamscapes, etc.


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Re: Questions gradually resetting my Cannabis tolerance [Re: gornyhuy]
    #15794339 - 02/11/12 06:40 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

Tried weed once when I was real young. Noting much happened... hightened sensitivity.

Next time I tried I was 16 or 17, I think... I went with some cool dudes to a ski lodge in the middle of nowhere and got high as all shit for a week. That whole week I was seeing bright colours in neon and pastel, fractals, seeing sound and emotions as waves (not the right word, but hey) of colour... etc. The first day they were intense and overwhelming, and my mind was in a loopy trippy psychedelic sort of zone... by the last everything had a magical multi-coloured shimmer to it with intensified colours and details.

Only happened then, and at one festival not that long after. I don't expect it to happen again. I'm active on stoner forums and they all (mostly) agree that you can't trip on weed...



Also, don't worry OP. If your tolerance isn't baseline already, then it will come down over the first while of your plan being in place. Takes me only 2-3 days to reach near baseline tolerance and maybe 7 to get that last little bit gone.


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