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what are some of the worst psychedelic lie's?
#15789862 - 02/10/12 06:21 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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there are plenty of them , and even some of my tripper friends still believe that psilocybin mushrooms are poisonous and its the poison that makes you trip. in my country growing up , we had a lie that was told as fact that the active ingredient in psilocybin mushrooms was strychnine {the same stuff in rat killer pills}. this "truth" must have been enough to put many off the idea permanantly. this was years before the internet so the masses seemingly accepted this b.s as gospel. was this lie restricted to australia? what other myths compare to the ridiculousness of this grand corker?
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Re: what are some of the worst psychedelic lie's? [Re: atomicshaman]
#15789895 - 02/10/12 06:32 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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I got some. 'psychedelics cause flashbacks' this is debatable.. some people do some don't... it's more HPPD than anything, but i experience it intermittently.
'LSD stays in your spinal fluid.' Not true, early studies showed that 10% passed in the urine unchanged, while the rest of it is broken down metabolites
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Re: what are some of the worst psychedelic lie's? [Re: atomicshaman]
#15789923 - 02/10/12 06:41 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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atomicshaman said: psilocybin mushrooms are poisonous and its the poison that makes you trip.
That's probably one of the worst. Also the whole "LSD stays in your body FOREVER" thing, and "LSD makes you CRAZY!"
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Re: what are some of the worst psychedelic lie's? [Re: nooneman]
#15789938 - 02/10/12 06:46 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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"Shrooms make your brain bleed..."
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Re: what are some of the worst psychedelic lie's? [Re: nooneman]
#15789945 - 02/10/12 06:48 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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they also preached that the strychnine would stay in your body forever and kill/injure you at any time after the experience. we were young and had no idea we were being lied to. makes me wonder who started that one , he or she would still be amused and shocked that it ever took off.
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Re: what are some of the worst psychedelic lie's? [Re: nooneman]
#15789954 - 02/10/12 06:49 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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atomicshaman said: psilocybin mushrooms are poisonous and its the poison that makes you trip.
That's probably one of the worst. Also the whole "LSD stays in your body FOREVER" thing, and "LSD makes you CRAZY!"

Both of these. Spinal taps to test for LSD. The mushroom 'food poisoning' thing really bugs me but I've come to the conclusion that it is a simple misunderstanding of the meaning of the word "poison", though most people will not admit it. Psilocybin is not toxic so clearly I am right and they are wrong.
"______-based ecstasy". Especially mescaline but there is a lot of talk of heroin and cocaine based pills which I'm assuming is almost just as unlikely.
I've heard people say that dropping liquid acid in your eye causes a more visual trip I've heard somebody say that the effects of LSD, are due to it eating holes in your brain, and blood dripping from the brain onto the spinal cord
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Re: what are some of the worst psychedelic lie's? [Re: drr]
#15790383 - 02/10/12 08:46 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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LSD causes pinholes in your brain...
I was talking to a kid about acid and he said, "Now you have a tiny pinhole in your brain, thats the reason I don't want to take it because I want to join the army and they do an MRI/brain scan? and they can tell if you've taken it before" I was like yeah..... okay. This kid was a stoner too!
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Re: what are some of the worst psychedelic lie's? [Re: drr]
#15790390 - 02/10/12 08:50 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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It's not just Australia I'm afraid..
In the US when I was growing up we were made to believe that LSD isn't really made any more, and the acid you get "nowadays" (in the 80s) was pure strychnine.
We also believed the stems of the shrooms had strychnine in them, so we always plucked the tops and tossed the stems in the trash! (DOH!) what a waste.
We believed purple microdots were mescaline (and we usually paid double the price of acid for this "mescaline")
If you crack your neck/back, you can cause an instant flashback since LSD is stored in your spinal fluid.
Anyone else read those huge SIRS reference books in the school library and learn everything the Govt. wanted you to believe about drugs?
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Re: what are some of the worst psychedelic lie's? [Re: Phenom]
#15790393 - 02/10/12 08:51 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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Phenom said: LSD causes pinholes in your brain...
I was talking to a kid about acid and he said, "Now you have a tiny pinhole in your brain, thats the reason I don't want to take it because I want to join the army and they do an MRI/brain scan? and they can tell if you've taken it before" I was like yeah..... okay. This kid was a stoner too!
Please urge him not to join the army or he is in for a lifetime of repression/frustration, especially if he likes to self medicate.
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Re: what are some of the worst psychedelic lie's? [Re: bollocks]
#15790415 - 02/10/12 09:00 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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Phenom said: LSD causes pinholes in your brain...
I was talking to a kid about acid and he said, "Now you have a tiny pinhole in your brain, thats the reason I don't want to take it because I want to join the army and they do an MRI/brain scan? and they can tell if you've taken it before" I was like yeah..... okay. This kid was a stoner too!
Please urge him not to join the army or he is in for a lifetime of repression/frustration, especially if he likes to self medicate.
Well, it's his choice and maybe he isn't trying to smoke his entire life? I don't see how
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Re: what are some of the worst psychedelic lie's? [Re: atomicshaman]
#15790419 - 02/10/12 09:00 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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"Ecstacy makes holes in your brain" "LSD is made in a bathtub" "Psilocybin kills your brain cells and its the other cells reactions that make you trip"
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Re: what are some of the worst psychedelic lie's? [Re: BoldAsLove]
#15790487 - 02/10/12 09:21 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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BoldAsLove said: "Ecstacy makes holes in your brain" "LSD is made in a bathtub" "Psilocybin kills your brain cells and its the other cells reactions that make you trip"
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Yeah bathtub one.. forgot about that one.
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Re: what are some of the worst psychedelic lie's? [Re: nooneman]
#15790488 - 02/10/12 09:21 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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atomicshaman said: psilocybin mushrooms are poisonous and its the poison that makes you trip.
That's probably one of the worst. Also the whole "LSD stays in your body FOREVER" thing, and "LSD makes you CRAZY!"

lsd can make you crazy though.. like 1% ers mixed with 500 hits
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Re: what are some of the worst psychedelic lie's? [Re: atomicshaman]
#15790493 - 02/10/12 09:24 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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My best friend is convinced that you can snort mushrooms
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Re: what are some of the worst psychedelic lie's? [Re: Seriously_Spaced]
#15790563 - 02/10/12 09:46 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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my friend's friends has an uncle who knew this guy that ate like a whole bunch of lsd and he went crazy, so they had to put him in a mental hospital.
now he just sits in the corner of his room, thinking that he is a glass of orange juice. and his mortal fear is now getting tipped over.
it's a very sad story, and the reason you shouldn't do lsd.
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Re: what are some of the worst psychedelic lie's? [Re: Salomon]
#15790613 - 02/10/12 09:59 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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"hallucinogens" 
I think that's the biggest lie of them all - you take a psychedelic and you HALLUCINATE THINGS THAT ARE SCARY AND NOT REAL!
I mean obviously the visuals induced by a psychedelic are not as properly constructed as say, sober reality, but I've never once actually HALLUCINATED on any psychedelic. It seems to me the most common misconception is that psychedelics are so scary to the common-man because they will make you hallucinate, hence hallucinogens as their name. I think psychedelic is 10000000000x more fitting in describing what these chemicals do, compared to hallucinogens. Datura, although I haven't done it, seems like a real HALLUCINOGEN. Now don't get me wrong in extremely high, past really "recreational" doses, you might hallucinate so to speak, but that's much different than what most people imagine when they think of psychedelics as hallucinogens.
When I had a low tolerance to cannabis, my hallucinations were more vivid with that than they ever have been with psychedelics! On LSD everything just looks pretty and bright and awesome. So very far from frightening though
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Re: what are some of the worst psychedelic lie's? [Re: extreme]
#15790656 - 02/10/12 10:10 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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well i took 500 hits turned psychotic slit my wrists and almost died so risks are there idiot.. dobnt believe everything you read..
goddamn newbs to psychedleics pisss me off
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Re: what are some of the worst psychedelic lie's? [Re: extreme]
#15790780 - 02/10/12 10:46 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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extreme said: "hallucinogens" 
I think that's the biggest lie of them all - you take a psychedelic and you HALLUCINATE THINGS THAT ARE SCARY AND NOT REAL!
I mean obviously the visuals induced by a psychedelic are not as properly constructed as say, sober reality, but I've never once actually HALLUCINATED on any psychedelic. It seems to me the most common misconception is that psychedelics are so scary to the common-man because they will make you hallucinate, hence hallucinogens as their name. I think psychedelic is 10000000000x more fitting in describing what these chemicals do, compared to hallucinogens. Datura, although I haven't done it, seems like a real HALLUCINOGEN. Now don't get me wrong in extremely high, past really "recreational" doses, you might hallucinate so to speak, but that's much different than what most people imagine when they think of psychedelics as hallucinogens.
When I had a low tolerance to cannabis, my hallucinations were more vivid with that than they ever have been with psychedelics! On LSD everything just looks pretty and bright and awesome. So very far from frightening though

I too find that most people believe the misconception that the hallucinations from psychedelics are like this. Full-blown hallucinations like popular culture shows is certainly possible on higher doses, but it just pisses me off when I'm on LSD or mushrooms and one of my friends asks me something like "whoa, dude, what are you seeing?". I almost always respond unicorns. As much as movies like Harold and Kumar are sort of funny, I definitely hate that they perpetuated the all too common stereotype that psychedelics make you see unicorns and shit that just isn't there. People just don't seem to get it. I stopped trying to explain this long ago.
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Re: what are some of the worst psychedelic lie's? [Re: VicariousGreg]
#15790861 - 02/10/12 11:15 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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leafing said: well i took 500 hits turned psychotic slit my wrists and almost died so risks are there idiot.. dobnt believe everything you read..
goddamn newbs to psychedleics pisss me off
If this is true............... that does explain a lot! 
But if you aren't trolling and that's for real you should pm me your experience; it would be a very interesting read. I know for sure that your recreational acid trip varies immensely from a multiple-milligram acid dose. When you stop talking in micrograms and get back to milligrams, you're talking about the difference between a trip and, well, things impossible to even explain. Shit the intense addition of color from just 1/10 mg to 1/2 mg is extreme. Keep multiplying and I don't know what the FUCK the answer is haha.
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VicariousGreg said: I too find that most people believe the misconception that the hallucinations from psychedelics are like this. Full-blown hallucinations like popular culture shows is certainly possible on higher doses, but it just pisses me off when I'm on LSD or mushrooms and one of my friends asks me something like "whoa, dude, what are you seeing?". I almost always respond unicorns. As much as movies like Harold and Kumar are sort of funny, I definitely hate that they perpetuated the all too common stereotype that psychedelics make you see unicorns and shit that just isn't there. People just don't seem to get it. I stopped trying to explain this long ago.
Before I had done this stuff myself I never really knew, but I think I mostly just didn't care to know. When psychs started to interest me though, the memories of all the inaccurate portrayals of peopling on psychs definitely played an impact on my decision to dabble. Now the curious type that I am, I ended up dabbling, and all the laughs I've had since have been worth it, obviously. But before I'd tried acid, I was actually a LITTLE afraid of it, I admit. But DURING my FIRST acid trip, I got the same goofy giggles you get on shrooms like "Wow, so I was supposed to hallucinate, but I'm not. Things are just really pretty and I'm having more fun than I'd normally be having"
If you "let go" or whatever you wanna call it, the fun that can be had on psychedelics is unmatched. It is absolutely impossible for me to grin that long under any other circumstance.
         
For myself at least, I think just having psychs labeled "hallucinogens" my whole upbringing was the biggest misconception of what these chems really do. So subtle, it is. In your science textbook when you get to drugs, things like LSD and Magic Mushrooms fall into the Hallucinogen section. No, that section is bullshit. But until psychs become accepted I doubt they'll be given a respectable name as such.
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Re: what are some of the worst psychedelic lie's? [Re: extreme]
#15790991 - 02/11/12 12:12 AM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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'psychedelics cause flashbacks' this is debatable.. some people do some don't... it's more HPPD than anything, but i experience it intermittently.

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