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Parrallel Universes
    #15789861 - 02/10/12 06:21 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

Probably not that new of an idea to some here, but last night I watched a documentary on the the theory of parallel universes by Nat Geo and thought it was a sound theory and an interesting one at that. Anyone else have any thoughts on the subject or anymore recommended viewing/reading? If it's not against the rules and someone is interested I will post the link to the one I watched. They went into the idea of a multi-verse and that is even more mind boggling and amazing.


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Re: Parrallel Universes [Re: The Influence]
    #15791313 - 02/11/12 02:34 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

sure, i think it's possible. i see parallel realities like different paths in ones life. for example, you are in between a crossroad, and within every direction lies a different reality.

hehe i am having trouble explaining this, hopefully those first sentences are enough.


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Re: Parrallel Universes [Re: zZZz]
    #15791366 - 02/11/12 03:33 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

Parallel universe doesn't mean they are spatially adjacent to us, like two parallel lines stretching outwards. It is more likely they are all interdependent and entwined in this one. Nothing suggests any real "boundaries" exist anywhere in nature. Along a similar "line" of thought, given the infinitude of development opportunities, extra-terrestrial intelligence is likely already inextricably linked to our own planet and continues to influence life. So, if we are gathering information about distant cosmic processes, we are in essence gathering information about ourselves: sounds like a beautiful, recursive spiral to me.

"Silly Rabbit, fractals are for kids."


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Re: Parrallel Universes [Re: Jessica Swift]
    #15791372 - 02/11/12 03:39 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

maybe theres a universe where there are parrallel universes, and maybe theres also one where there aren't


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Re: Parrallel Universes [Re: venetianblinds]
    #15791389 - 02/11/12 03:52 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

Rofl, n1.

Was the inference to the Uncertainty Principle?

(Just to make sure it is meant to be funny ^.^)


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Re: Parrallel Universes [Re: teknix]
    #15791393 - 02/11/12 03:56 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

hehe, i was thinking more along the lines of schrodingers cat


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Re: Parrallel Universes [Re: venetianblinds]
    #15791394 - 02/11/12 03:58 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

Yeah :smile:

Do you like The Big Bang T.V. series?

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Re: Parrallel Universes [Re: teknix]
    #15791406 - 02/11/12 04:03 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

never seen it


i usually just watch soccer if im watching tv to be honest


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Re: Parrallel Universes [Re: venetianblinds]
    #15791418 - 02/11/12 04:10 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

lol, it's more like watching computer for me.

I was watching this show on Justin.TV called something along the lines of Nature's Greatest Events and it was showing how smart the dolphins were to herd sardines up from the depths. When they got a giant herd to the top there were birds and sharks and various other predators, all swimming after the sardines and ignoring each other. Then to finish the event a giant whale came and ate the heard of sardines, officially ending the event.

It kinda made me think about how it applys to people. Like in a social group there are many ego's, and many times the weakest ego is singled out by the bigger ego's and ignore each other. I noticed that when thinking about a kid we used to all pick on when we were kids.


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Re: Parrallel Universes [Re: teknix]
    #15791422 - 02/11/12 04:11 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

epic....was it streamed or is it still up? link plz


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Re: Parrallel Universes [Re: venetianblinds]
    #15791425 - 02/11/12 04:14 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

They are showing something else now, it was at this link though:
http://www.justin.tv/fam_nature#/w/2580454896/34


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Re: Parrallel Universes [Re: teknix]
    #15791435 - 02/11/12 04:23 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

Here it is, pretty intense!



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Re: Parrallel Universes [Re: teknix]
    #15791437 - 02/11/12 04:27 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

holy shit....


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Re: Parrallel Universes [Re: Jessica Swift]
    #15792575 - 02/11/12 11:52 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

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zZZz said:
sure, i think it's possible. i see parallel realities like different paths in ones life. for example, you are in between a crossroad, and within every direction lies a different reality.

hehe i am having trouble explaining this, hopefully those first sentences are enough.



That makes sense to me, and is actually the theory of a physicist who ruined his academic career presenting the theory. A theory that is now accepted.
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Parallel universe doesn't mean they are spatially adjacent to us, like two parallel lines stretching outwards. It is more likely they are all interdependent and entwined in this one. Nothing suggests any real "boundaries" exist anywhere in nature. Along a similar "line" of thought, given the infinitude of development opportunities, extra-terrestrial intelligence is likely already inextricably linked to our own planet and continues to influence life. So, if we are gathering information about distant cosmic processes, we are in essence gathering information about ourselves: sounds like a beautiful, recursive spiral to me.

"Silly Rabbit, fractals are for kids."



Actually one of the physicists suggested that there is evidence for them being adjacent. When we discovered that our universe is constantly expanding, this physicist already had the theory that adjacent universes had a gravitational pull on each other, thus the reason our universe is ever expanding. She presented her theory to the head of NASA and they coined it a very good theory.


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Re: Parrallel Universes [Re: The Influence]
    #15792593 - 02/11/12 11:56 AM (3 months, 16 days ago)

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Actually one of the physicists suggested that there is evidence for them being adjacent. When we discovered that our universe is constantly expanding, this physicist already had the theory that adjacent universes had a gravitational pull on each other, thus the reason our universe is ever expanding. She presented her theory to the head of NASA and they coined it a very good theory.




If there are adjacent universes, and it is gravitational pull that causes the expansion, there would have to be an infinite number of universes. It's the "turtles all the way down" scenario, or similar to St. Augustine's eternal mover. Which universe is pulling the universe that is pulling? Ad nauseum.


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Re: Parrallel Universes [Re: Jessica Swift]
    #15792657 - 02/11/12 12:13 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

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The Influence said:
Actually one of the physicists suggested that there is evidence for them being adjacent. When we discovered that our universe is constantly expanding, this physicist already had the theory that adjacent universes had a gravitational pull on each other, thus the reason our universe is ever expanding. She presented her theory to the head of NASA and they coined it a very good theory.




If there are adjacent universes, and it is gravitational pull that causes the expansion, there would have to be an infinite number of universes. It's the "turtles all the way down" scenario, or similar to St. Augustine's eternal mover. Which universe is pulling the universe that is pulling? Ad nauseum.



I don't want to act like an expert on the subject as I just started learning about it, but some do believe that the amount of universes are infinite. Thats where the theory of the multi-verse comes in. Some believe that in the multi-verse super-novas happen all the time. Of course all of this is just theory and is interesting imo. I'm sure there are plenty of other plausible theory's out there as your first post in this thread is just as possible as the physicists; at least in my head.


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Re: Parrallel Universes [Re: The Influence]
    #15792673 - 02/11/12 12:17 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

I enjoy the theories too, and I've bookmarked links whenever I ran into well-publicized NASA theories and the like.

The thing is I usually take most cosmological theories with a grain of salt. Their hypothetical arrangements are densely philosophical, and draw more from projections than actual astronomical data.

Just for giggles, let's not forget the poor fate of Pluto recently. We can't understand our own solar system, yet we're quick to theorize beyond it. Cute almost.


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Re: Parrallel Universes [Re: Jessica Swift]
    #15792777 - 02/11/12 12:39 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

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I enjoy the theories too, and I've bookmarked links whenever I ran into well-publicized NASA theories and the like.

The thing is I usually take most cosmological theories with a grain of salt. Their hypothetical arrangements are densely philosophical, and draw more from projections than actual astronomical data.

Just for giggles, let's not forget the poor fate of Pluto recently. We can't understand our own solar system, yet we're quick to theorize beyond it. Cute almost.



I have to remind myself everytime I watch or read something like this that it is not fact and only theory otherwise I tend to take it as fact.

Yeah when it comes down to it we as humans don't really know much about anything really. I used to be religious until just recently and realized how silly it really was. Not that I can't say whether there was a higher power or not, but the way religion lays things out seems like non-sense to me now.


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Re: Parrallel Universes [Re: The Influence]
    #15792805 - 02/11/12 12:43 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

The multiverse is a sham, it is the result of physicists interpreting QM through a materialist perspective. It was invented to explain the double split experiment through a materialist mindset. It is also a nice tool to explain why the fundamental forces are tuned precisely (and very precisely indeed) without requiring any sort of intelligence (god). They suspect there are an infinite number of universes all with different laws of physics or different "tunings" of the fundamental forces, this is how they evade God and idealism.. we just happen to find ourselves in the universe where life is possible.. its a great way of working around the infinitesimal odds that anything you see around you can actually exist without admitting it is all existing in MIND.

There are no parallel universes because there is only one reality and one OM point in which the infinite universe (which is the shadow of God) issues forth. If you studied the cosmology of Meher Baba and took it seriously you would have an inkling into what im talking about.

The multiverse is entirely hypothetical but is taken very seriously by the mainstream because scientists enjoy selling their ideas to sci-fi movie producers such as star trek. As Meher said science has projected tremendous imagination into mankind.


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Re: Parrallel Universes [Re: soldatheero]
    #15792895 - 02/11/12 01:09 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

How did you choose Maher Baba to inform you of what's really going on in the universe?


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