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Commercial PMMA- ecstasy testing kits coming to Canada
    #15786673 - 02/10/12 03:00 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Commercial PMMA- ecstasy testing kits coming to Canada
February 10, 2012 - metronews.ca

Final preparations are being made to distribute ecstasy-testing kits in Canada specifically designed to detect a toxic compound linked to numerous deaths recently, but police aren’t supporting the move.

Working in partnership with a private contractor, Seattle-based harm-reduction group DanceSafe and Toronto’s Trip! Project expect to have commercially available PMMA-ecstasy testing kits ready in weeks.

The PMMA compound is considered cheaper and five times more toxic than the more common ecstasy compound MDMA.

“This is about helping people determine what is good ecstasy, that being MDMA,” said DanceSafe President Nathan Messer.

The group does already offer numerous testing kits designed to detect other compounds in ecstasy powder, but has run into difficulty when attempting to ship mass quantities of kits over the border.

Once the PMMA tests are ready, Trip! will take care of domestic production and distribution, confirmed Lori Kufner.

Police representatives consulted by Metro Thursday indicated that there was nothing to suggest the kits are illegal but they stressed that ingesting any ecstasy compound is dangerous.

“They offer a false sense of security,” Calgary police spokesperson Kevin Brookwell said of the kits. “Are you willing to risk your life on the results of an unproven test?

“This not about PMMA.... People have been dying of overdoses of all kinds of street drugs for years.”
Messer said where his group would traditionally field one or two calls a month from potential Canadian customers. Lately, the phones have been ringing daily.

He also took issue with the police stance on the testing kits.

“So, if you are speeding and die, should we not be making cars safer?” he said.


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Re: Commercial PMMA- ecstasy testing kits coming to Canada [Re: veggie]
    #15787902 - 02/10/12 11:58 AM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Police dont want you to have the same cool stuff that your tax dollars pay for thier departments.

Mp of 4-methoxy-N-methylamphetamine hydrochloride (PMMA) 177-178 deg C
4-methoxyamphetamine HCL (PMA) 171-172 deg C
mp values from PIHKAL
Real MDMA melts at lower temps 148-153 °C, but can sometimes come out in a hydrated salt and that will alter the figure slightly.


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Re: Commercial PMMA- ecstasy testing kits coming to Canada [Re: Dest]
    #15788208 - 02/10/12 01:23 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Finally, some common sense.

None being had by the pigs, though.


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Re: Commercial PMMA- ecstasy testing kits coming to Canada [Re: Odd_Nonposter]
    #15789079 - 02/10/12 06:12 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

Of course not^^^


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In a free society, the presumption must be that people can smoke, snort, eat or inject whatever they wish, so long as they do not harm others. The burden of proof should rest on those who would ban marijuana, not those who want it legal. That burden has never been met.


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Re: Commercial PMMA- ecstasy testing kits coming to Canada [Re: redeyesmj]
    #15789239 - 02/10/12 06:41 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

wow i think cops want people to die


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Re: Commercial PMMA- ecstasy testing kits coming to Canada [Re: allseeingike]
    #16465116 - 07/01/12 02:54 PM (10 months, 15 days ago)

"People have been dying of overdoses of all kinds of street drugs for years"
Well, yeah, that's what happens when you declare drugs illegal  :facepalm3:  ; you have improvised "chemists" who sell fake shit under the name of a legitimate drug. In fact, that is the most dangerous aspect of illegal drugs; you (usually) don't know where the fuck they come from, what precisely they contain, the exact dosage, etc. This, I blame it on the government and the crazy laws that these fascists make up.


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