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 Depression, wtf can i do??? 
#15786339 - 02/09/12 10:26 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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I hate ssri's but what other things can help me. I feel very agitated, aggravated and down with insomnia as well. I'm going fucking nuts dealing with this shit. I wake up every night after sleeping maybe 2 hours and always have a headache.I'm hypothyroid as well and trying to stay In good shape so what would be good and weight concious at the same time.
I've been taking 5htp a couple days but I just stood up and almost blacked out so Idk about this shit man.
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Get bloodwork done see if you have any deficiencies then improve on that, I recently had gotten blood work back and I have a b12 deficiency which is responsible for possibly my depression, sometime manic state and brain fog along with other symptoms of having low b12.
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Yea my b12 was good, I've had quite a bit of blood work, cbc, metabolic panel, sugar hba1nc or whatver all good, hep panel, sed rate, troponin t proteins or whatever, mangnesium, TSh, free t3, free t4. Just a bunch of stuff.
I'm deficient in vitamin d and have been taking 4000 iu daily but its barely going up, she suggested I try 5000 daily now but I've been taking it for a long time and am not really seeing results. My dermatologist today suggested I see another endocrinologist and refered me to 1 to get a 2nd opinion. I guess maybe there could be something else besides the thyroid that was out of whack, idfk. I guess ill push for more blood work.
Whatever it is it seems I'm unipolar and not bipolar. This is something that slowly comes on over a period of time like a long episode. I can have mild depression at but just having it linger usually turns into this. There are no mood swings like in a bipolar disorder. Just steady shitty depression. It can trigger panic attacks if this goes on long enuff. I'm pretty stable but this shit is just driving me up the wall. Definately tough to deal with and I used to laugh at shit like this and say it was make believe. Wish we were all kids again lol.
When i eat it seems to give some relief but that is a bad cycle, I already understand that because of psych class. I think it stimulates the pleasure centers of the brain which temperarily over rides it but that is what is seen in alot of obese patients and I already have to be careful since I have a thyroid condition. Getting fat on top of all this shit would just make things even worse.
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I think I may have come across the answer for what has triggered this depression. A couple weeks ago I had my wisdom teeth pulled. Well after they prescribed me an antibiotic doxycycline. Now after taking a good look into it even tho it is not listed as a common side effect many people are reporting almost going off the deep end while using this antibiotic. I only have 4 days left Monday being the last day then it may take a week to get it out of my system.
Just thought I'd post this while I have it on my mind for any others who may experience something like this and can't quite put there finger on it. I'll hang in their and update how I feel after discontinuing the use of this antibiotic.
I plan to get more work done in my mouth (fillings) and hopefullly not anything else that requires antibiotics. If so ill suggest this reaction I had and see if it may be the cause of it and what they have to say about it, possibly I can get something else that isn't as likely to cause depression.
Feels better knowing 
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Hello there ! Depends how deep is your depression,you can do many things of course! Get some herbal mood balancing or antidepression teas or capsules,if your body is sensible to such remedies,exercise,go swimming at a pool,exercice till you are exhausted everyday and take melatonin after, make good use of insomnia to practice lucid dreaming,use isochronic tones to put your mind`s brainweaves in a better state if you are sensible to those kinds of things 
And of course, CANDYFLIP hooraayyy 
All goods to you.
Edited by Damkina (02/10/12 01:59 AM)
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Re: Depression, wtf can i do??? [Re: Damkina]
#15787024 - 02/10/12 02:08 AM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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Thanks, I do exercise but lately I have been really busy and slacking on it. I don't think that my depression goes very deep. Honestly I feel its just been triggered by the antibiotic(doxycycline) I'm on now after reading about a lot of people having the same problem.
One other time I had depression triggered but it was while I was waiting to get diagnosed for my thyroid condition and my hormones were all out of whack plus the addition of prescribed benzos for anxiety with the combination of benadryl suggested by the hospital. I think really they just wanted to knock me out so I'd stop going up there but since I had an unknown and untreated thyroid condition that's all that was causing the anxiety and slight depression but the benzos pushed it further, the depression that is. Only other time I ever experienced it.
Besides that yes mild depression maybe more common for me but only one other time besides this have I felt it get pushed this far and I feel it was induced just like its possibly being done now by the use of this antibiotic.
Generally I'm pretty happy.
I'm just gonna wait til I'm off of these antibiotics and update what happens.
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Edited by Mr. Anderson (02/10/12 02:16 AM)
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I know how that feels. For me every cold or diesease feels horrible when it`s COMING UP,then when my temperature hits over 38.5 celsius it`s euphoria delirland,can`t stop smiling. Actually I`m on the comedown of a awesome cold where i hitted 39 degrees celsius temperature and I was  . Didn`t ingest anything other than imunostimulating herbs and oils and making good use of natural remedies my dear grandma knows from her countrylife.
However everytime I ingest any kind of antibiotics,I am depressed,feeling guilty and puking all the time. Fuck that!
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Re: Depression, wtf can i do??? [Re: Damkina]
#15787061 - 02/10/12 02:21 AM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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Also I am sure that this does not happen to all the people and antibiotics are quite a good discovery modern science has made. I`m just sick of all doctors in my country prescribing them for every single little cold one has,that`s pure stupidity.
Those reactions that I have I`m pretty sure are some kind of rejection that my body does to pills and antibiotics because a period of severe illness in my childhood when I was spammed with antibiotics(Actually they saved my life.),and also psychological.
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Re: Depression, wtf can i do??? [Re: Damkina]
#15787069 - 02/10/12 02:25 AM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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Yea fuck that shit. I'm gonna give 5htp a try but I'm finding it ineffective at the moment either cause of the antibiotic or maybe I just need more time using the 5htp. I really do not want to use any kind of psych meds doctors prescribe because none of them seem really good and the 5htp seems to promote good health as long as its taken in reasonable doses.
Yea I don't think all antibiotics do this or even this specific one does this to everyone else but it does seem like a some what common side effect after googling for doxycycline. The prescribtion of it was necessary do to me having oral surgery getting my wisdom teeth removed. I guess sometimes u just gotta bite down and suck it up but it does feel better just knowing that this is most likely why my depression was triggered and that it will be over soon and I can get back to killing it in the gym
No classes til Monday so at least I have a nice break til this is almost over as well.
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i'm learning so many new things about you Mr Anderson each time you post or start a new thread, which is cool because it sheds new light on the matter... i seriously doubt that 5-htp caused your dizziness but you never know as each person is unique when their body is in crisis. you may not have a true serotonin issue at all but i recommended that you consider trying to let your body convert tryptophan into 5-htp into serotonin and so forth, but you do what you feel is best for you...
as far as a vitamin D deficiency goes, the dose you're reciveing for a deficiency is a joke. i tested low on vitamin D 3+ months ago and was placed on 50,000 IU's every other day for 3 days per week and 10,000IU's the remaining days and was only recently retested this week! i'll know Monday if i'm in the clear but vitamin D deficiency has been linked to so many critical disorders and disease it's fucking unreal and believe it or not depression is a BIGGIE! this could be at the root of all of your problems as many studies are indicating a vitamin D deficiency is common in over 40% of men between the ages of 20-50 and the numbers are even higher for those who are older. do you use sun block? because believe it or not many progressive/integrative MD's are saying sun blockers prevent skin conversion of vitamin D and ironically low vitamin D has been directly tied to multiple forms of cancer, including skin cancer... go fucking figure that one out Mr Andersen... i've recently read that we need to have 40% of our bodies exposed to direct sunlight for 4 hours in order to produce 40,00IU's of internal vitamin D each day...
and as far as being on a anti biotic, anytime you use an antibiotic you should use a high quality probiotic for at least one month or more in order to reestablish healthy gut bacteria that are killed off by using the anti biotic!!! but a main stream allopathic MD is totally oblivious to this and what can happen is the wrong type of bacteria develop a strong bacterial colony count in the gut dramatically effecting absorption and possibly creating a very serious autoimmune response... and you would live like this for basically like forever and ever... what a joke allopathic medicine is in this respect... seriously man, really think hard about this one and consider using this probiotic as it is the only one my integrative MD uses along with goat Kefir which i'm not telling you to use but seriously consider this probiotic...
Garden of Life PRIMAL DEFENSE ULTRA Probiotic Formula 90 Capsules LOWEST PRICE
and this is an awesome price as my local health food store wants $48.00 plus tax for this shit... this may not have the highest bacteria count but it has the most complete amount of different strains... this shit is the bomb man!!! and also consider using digestive enzymes for the one month period this bottle will treat you for, just consider, no demands are being made as you are young enough and enzymes shouldn't be a problem but with all of the things you've got going on, enzymes taken before meals are cheap and very beneficial for someone like you...
what else are you hiding from us Mr Andersen?  just kidding of course... everyone reading this should always use a good probiotic for at least one month after using any anti biotic...
K~~~ 
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Re: Depression, wtf can i do??? [Re: cateyes]
#15791354 - 02/11/12 03:27 AM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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Lol its funny I didn't see this. Check out the little rwrite up I did in the other thread lol
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Fast, Pray, and Faith.......Its the only thing that works for me 
And keep in mind im not just talking about a Christian sort of thing. Do what works for you  Hope you feel better. And keep in mind somedays are just shitty man. You cant live inside a rotting piece of flesh on a crazy planet like earth and feel great all the time
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Thanks for the advice, It's ok I raised vitamin d and it got me out of that funk but it kinda messed up some other things it seems. I have other health problems and have been discussing them and the possibilities here.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15782133
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used to laugh at shit like this and say it was make believe. Wish we were all kids again lol.
i'm not saying it's make believe, but try taking what your experiencing less seriously, as getting worked up over it only makes it worse. also as i've gotten over my serious depression, i realized who we are is the result of all our past experiences. so you say you have depression, try look at it a little deeper and see what things that have happened in your life that could have caused it. or try to see when it started getting worse.
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