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Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites
#15786120 - 02/09/12 09:27 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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Okay heres the deal, Just fruited this tray yesterday. Noticed This gold/yellow lookin stuff growin just now. Fuck. Any ideas? I am willing to except that mold may have won this battle but i gots to know if its possible that it's just metabolites. BRF spawned to coir/coffee btw. Colonized for 13 days before put in FC. Also, ive got this tray in a PMP along with some cakes, if in the case that this is mold, are my cakes gonna be okay?
 the spots that are an off white color in this pic are just effects from the camera, all except the gold/yellow of course
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: R.I.P.McKenna]
#15786134 - 02/09/12 09:31 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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I can't tell fully, but this looks fine to me
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: R.I.P.McKenna] 1
#15786147 - 02/09/12 09:34 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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metabolites? that looks like a BIG contam to me!!
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: luisfer420]
#15786177 - 02/09/12 09:43 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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luisfer420 said: metabolites? that looks like a BIG contam to me!!
shit, ive seen way worse but just know that the only real color in the pic other than white and the color of the coir is that yellow. the camera effect makes it look pretty bad
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: R.I.P.McKenna]
#15786257 - 02/09/12 10:07 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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luisfer420 said: metabolites? that looks like a BIG contam to me!!
shit, ive seen way worse but just know that the only real color in the pic other than white and the color of the coir is that yellow. the camera effect makes it look pretty bad
i see green there, maybe the light contrast with the camera eye but that yellow doesnt help anyway.. keep it a couple of days more to see whats up, but for me thats contamed, or take better pics so we can have a better opinion..
im not an expert in monotubs, actually im doing one and today is day 10 and i checked it, i know about contamination thats why i dare to give advice with no experience in monotub, and this helped me write this, check out mine, theres no other color that white like at all, compare it. i did some toppers too but havent checked them yet, hope they are fine too.. good luck mate!!
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: R.I.P.McKenna]
#15786265 - 02/09/12 10:10 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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that coir looks very wet.. but yea looks like metabolites. so either it has been colonizing really long or you added something to the coir like coffee to make its resistance to bacteria alot weaker.
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: luisfer420]
#15786304 - 02/09/12 10:18 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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Yeah damn iphone, ima see if it spreads at all by tomorrow morning and if so then i guess the garden is gonna get a nice treat. Ur grow looks awesome btw, possitive vibes sent ur way via my pineal gland
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: boommer]
#15786337 - 02/09/12 10:25 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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boommer said: that coir looks very wet.. but yea looks like metabolites. so either it has been colonizing really long or you added something to the coir like coffee to make its resistance to bacteria alot weaker.
Yeah i did add some spent coffee grounds, i had it colonizing for 13 days and it couldve gone a bit longer. The Coir was a little on the moist side as well but well within capacity. Figure ill give it a little time and see if it spreads
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: R.I.P.McKenna]
#15786351 - 02/09/12 10:28 PM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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yeah bro, good luck!!
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: luisfer420]
#15798633 - 02/12/12 03:22 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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GREAT NEWS! Yellow has dissapeered and we got pins baby! Must have been metabolites. I'll post some pin porn for ya'll very soon
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: R.I.P.McKenna]
#15798660 - 02/12/12 03:29 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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R.I.P.McKenna said: GREAT NEWS! Yellow has dissapeered and we got pins baby! Must have been metabolites. I'll post some pin porn for ya'll very soon
Congrats, brother!
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: Stabula]
#15798695 - 02/12/12 03:34 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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yeah i was gona say looks like metabs
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: sporesmores420]
#15800726 - 02/12/12 09:57 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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And PINS! as promised 
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: R.I.P.McKenna]
#15800745 - 02/12/12 10:00 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Excellent job!
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: Cynosure]
#15802897 - 02/13/12 12:12 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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nice man!! although you should get a new camera haha.. good luck and good trip mate!
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: luisfer420]
#15802916 - 02/13/12 12:16 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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glad to see it worked out well for you, next time try to make your substrate a little more level :-)
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: luisfer420]
#15803454 - 02/13/12 01:57 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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trich contam top right corner. unmistakable. i have a monotub full of it right now I can't empty cause the trashcan is full. Gotta wait till trashday. i don't any advice on what to do though. i've seen people cut them out. idk if thats a good idea or not though. im a mononewb.
you can even tell that area is contam because there is substantially less mycelium growing in the top right.
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: Munchauzen]
#15803477 - 02/13/12 02:03 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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for the future tubs, try evilmushroom666's tek
I do one thing slightly different....
Since I use Damion5050's "Elementary Coir Tek" I just dump my spawn into the bucket, put the lid back on, roll it around to mix it up super quickly and evenly... then dump bucket into the tub.
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: Munchauzen]
#15803631 - 02/13/12 02:39 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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trich contam top right corner. unmistakable. i have a monotub full of it right now I can't empty cause the trashcan is full. Gotta wait till trashday. i don't any advice on what to do though. i've seen people cut them out. idk if thats a good idea or not though. im a mononewb.
you can even tell that area is contam because there is substantially less mycelium growing in the top right.
sorry bro, what is trich? eng is my second language.. explain :S thanks
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: luisfer420]
#15803675 - 02/13/12 02:48 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Trichoderma is a genus of fungi that is present in all soils, where they are the most prevalent culturable fungi. Many species in this genus can be characterized as opportunistic avirulent plant symbionts.
its a very common contamination the mean green
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: bishlap]
#15803795 - 02/13/12 03:12 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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oh ok, thanks, but i dont see any green in the pic, im checking the tub in a few minutes to see how is it going.. and what should i do.. trash it? really?? :s
what are other options, if there are options, i dont want to risk anything..
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: luisfer420]
#15803874 - 02/13/12 03:31 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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your tub looks good from what I see id be happy with it. it does appear dry but that's hard to tell from pics I don't even see the yellow your referring to though
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: bishlap]
#15803905 - 02/13/12 03:37 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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thank you ^.^
what he said.
just look at the area in the top right corner where the mycelium isn't as prevalent. right in the middle is a small patch of whispy dark green spores.
green forest mold. your tub will probably fruit some... but I think it will be overwhelmed with green mold probably after your first flush or so. it usually moves quick.
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: Munchauzen]
#15803952 - 02/13/12 03:43 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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circled it
a tub of mine that I am positive has green mold. see the similarities? pretty easy to spot after you deal with it once or twice.

because mine had much more trich, the mycelium spread much less than in yours... like i said, my tub kinda looks like your upper-right corner, they both lack much rhizomorphic mycelium and look for the most part, uncolonized.
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: Munchauzen]
#15804004 - 02/13/12 03:53 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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I see the possible contamination you pointed Munchauzen, but how can you tell it's green?
Looks more gray to me.
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: luisfer420]
#15804086 - 02/13/12 04:07 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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luisfer420 said: nice man!! although you should get a new camera haha.. good luck and good trip mate!
haha thanks bro, hope ur mono is comin along nicely, munchauzen might know what hes talkin about but he can't know for sure at this point unless he sees ur tub with his own eyes. Might be good to get a closeup pic of that "questionable" spot though.
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: R.I.P.McKenna]
#15804118 - 02/13/12 04:12 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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yeah, im about to check it, ill post some more pics.. hope you dont mind on your thread, lol. peace
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: San]
#15804122 - 02/13/12 04:13 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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San said: I see the possible contamination you pointed Munchauzen, but how can you tell it's green?
Looks more gray to me.
camera light settings. my camera is set on fluoro and I have a 1 fluro in the room.
Just, watch this spot man. if it is indeed just a play on colors from the camera, then you might be good. but i also take this with the knowledge that there is hardly any myc growth in that corner.
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: luisfer420]
#15804142 - 02/13/12 04:17 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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luisfer420 said: yeah, im about to check it, ill post some more pics.. hope you dont mind on your thread, lol. peace
nah by all means go for it while the thread is still kickin
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: R.I.P.McKenna]
#15804253 - 02/13/12 04:36 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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didn't realize lusifer420 wasn't the OP. hehe sorry to hijack
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: Munchauzen]
#15804288 - 02/13/12 04:44 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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haha its cool, my problem was solved well before u hijacked
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: R.I.P.McKenna]
#15806120 - 02/13/12 09:55 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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check out how is it going.. any suggestions? i think i see green all around, but it might be my paranoia, cant really tell.. what do you think and what should i do? thanks THIS PIC IS THE FIRST ONE, ALMOST 4 DAYS AGO, BELOW THIS ONES ARE THE NEW ONES.
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: luisfer420]
#15808008 - 02/14/12 11:21 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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luisfer420 said: check out how is it going.. any suggestions? i think i see green all around, but it might be my paranoia, cant really tell.. what do you think and what should i do? thanks
It all looks fine to me.... I'd say leave the top on and let it do it's thing. check on it 3-6 days from now and it should be 100% if no contams
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: slapphappypill]
#15808765 - 02/14/12 02:54 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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the new pics look clean.
I think you will be ok to fruit
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: luisfer420]
#15809458 - 02/14/12 04:55 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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luisfer420 said: check out how is it going.. any suggestions? i think i see green all around, but it might be my paranoia, cant really tell.. what do you think and what should i do? thanks THIS PIC IS THE FIRST ONE, ALMOST 4 DAYS AGO, BELOW THIS ONES ARE THE NEW ONES.
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Lookin good, u should do a grow log, i wanna see how it turns out
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: Munchauzen]
#15809512 - 02/14/12 05:03 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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Cool, sounds good cause i really want to see it fruiting  so when i did the mono, since its a small tub, i divided the mix and put them in toppers, so the toppers are safe colonizing but since its my first one and more than 10 days passes i decided to birth it, but i did wrong, since i put a layer of coir, well instead of fruiting is still colonizing but in the FC, i looked at this just now and freaked out, for me is contam, but tell me what you think.. it sucks but if it is contam i want to throw it away asap so it doesnt spread inside the FC with my other cakes.. tell me.. sorry for many pics and shit, thanks!!
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: luisfer420]
#15810907 - 02/14/12 09:09 PM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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luisfer420 said: Cool, sounds good cause i really want to see it fruiting  so when i did the mono, since its a small tub, i divided the mix and put them in toppers, so the toppers are safe colonizing but since its my first one and more than 10 days passes i decided to birth it, but i did wrong, since i put a layer of coir, well instead of fruiting is still colonizing but in the FC, i looked at this just now and freaked out, for me is contam, but tell me what you think.. it sucks but if it is contam i want to throw it away asap so it doesnt spread inside the FC with my other cakes.. tell me.. sorry for many pics and shit, thanks!!

looks kinda like what i had on my tray, i think its just myc piss man
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: R.I.P.McKenna]
#15811879 - 02/15/12 01:26 AM (3 months, 12 days ago) |
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really? if so im really amazed on this one!! i was 100% sure it was contam. mycelium just keeps on surprising me! no ofense but i need a second opinion since you are not really sure? or can you confirm it? the thing is that i dont want to contam my other cakes and looks really funky! thanks mate!!
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Re: Contam?! Please tell me this is metabolites [Re: luisfer420]
#15814190 - 02/15/12 03:06 PM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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just take another pic. trich goes through its entire lifecycle pretty quickly.
you should also know that contams can die off and mycelium can overwhelm them, but the spores are still there. you just can't see them.
I think you are good though. If it was trich, it would be a jungle of mold in there by now.
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