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 Re: Does this mycellium look normal?  [Re: Willy Wonka]
#15804217 - 02/13/12 04:30 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Here's what they look like as of this evening. To me, it looks like a couple jars should be shook up again, but that's me. This is side one of four for all the jars. No, I don't plan to upload pictures of all four sides.
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Re: Does this mycellium look normal? [Re: Bluemookie]
#15805332 - 02/13/12 07:28 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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I would wait to shake again. That might be part of the problem. How often are you shaking the jars? If you shake to often it might cause the myc to stall. Shaking the stuff shocks the myc and it has to recover each time it is shook before it will continue to grow again. Give it some time to recover.
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Re: Does this mycellium look normal? [Re: Willy Wonka]
#15807047 - 02/14/12 05:13 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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I only shook them once, but it might have been too soon for a couple jars. Either that or I didn't shake them well enough.
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Re: Does this mycellium look normal? [Re: Bluemookie]
#15807051 - 02/14/12 05:15 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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its fine
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Re: Does this mycellium look normal? [Re: Bluemookie]
#15807222 - 02/14/12 06:47 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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looks fucked to me 
its like almost grey and powdery.
there's only one spot on your jar that looks as white and thick as this.
idk man.
i;d keep waiting but it looks like mold in there.
or maybe extremely dry grains.
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Re: Does this mycellium look normal? [Re: k00laid]
#15807645 - 02/14/12 09:37 AM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Fucked IMO
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Re: Does this mycellium look normal? [Re: kdmmontana]
#15841345 - 02/21/12 04:58 AM (3 months, 6 days ago) |
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Okay, here's what it looks like this week. I'm mostly concerned about jars 1 and 2.
      
I can't help but think these should get another shake (the first 2) and take 2 weeks to recover. What do you guys think? What about the rest of the jars? Am I okay? Do they look normal? The consensus is still far from unanimous.
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Re: Does this mycellium look normal? [Re: Bluemookie]
#15841364 - 02/21/12 05:10 AM (3 months, 6 days ago) |
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they look fine. shake them if you want; but there is no reason they should take 2 weeks to recover, more like 2 days.
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Re: Does this mycellium look normal? [Re: hellokitty]
#15842220 - 02/21/12 10:25 AM (3 months, 6 days ago) |
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yup
those are all clean
the grains might b a bit too dry to colonize.
but you should b able to spawn those
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Re: Does this mycellium look normal? [Re: k00laid]
#15842640 - 02/21/12 12:04 PM (3 months, 6 days ago) |
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So, if I prepare the grains exactly as instructed in the RR video, what do you do when things dry out?
Should I shake the 2 that have uncolonized areas?
Is the only way to determine if these jars are contaminated, just open them when finished and smell them?
Or do I have to mix it with coir and find out if trich grows?
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Re: Does this mycellium look normal? [Re: Bluemookie]
#15842652 - 02/21/12 12:06 PM (3 months, 6 days ago) |
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Or do I have to mix it with coir and find out if trich grows?
probably no trich.
but maybe some bacteria or something on the uncolonized parts.
its hard to tell. they are probably fine.
and you should soak longer IMO
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Re: Does this mycellium look normal? [Re: PureHash]
#15842909 - 02/21/12 01:16 PM (3 months, 6 days ago) |
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the grains look a little dry, and the growth looks a little weak. but depending when you last shook the jars could say why they look weak.
This
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Re: Does this mycellium look normal? [Re: k00laid]
#15842919 - 02/21/12 01:19 PM (3 months, 6 days ago) |
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Quote:
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Or do I have to mix it with coir and find out if trich grows?
probably no trich.
but maybe some bacteria or something on the uncolonized parts.
its hard to tell. they are probably fine.
and you should soak longer IMO
Longer than 24 hours? How long would you soak them?
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Re: Does this mycellium look normal? [Re: Bluemookie]
#15843075 - 02/21/12 02:00 PM (3 months, 5 days ago) |
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So if a grain jar stalled because of dry grains, is it ok to spawn it without 100% colonization?
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Re: Does this mycellium look normal? [Re: Bluemookie]
#15843459 - 02/21/12 03:28 PM (3 months, 5 days ago) |
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you soak em in really hot water right?
and if you dont wanna soak more than 24 hours, then boil them for longer
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Re: Does this mycellium look normal? [Re: Waldfried]
#15843463 - 02/21/12 03:28 PM (3 months, 5 days ago) |
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So if a grain jar stalled because of dry grains, is it ok to spawn it without 100% colonization?
ive had more contamination problems with spawn not done cuz of dryness
but its also worked some
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Re: Does this mycellium look normal? [Re: k00laid]
#15843504 - 02/21/12 03:43 PM (3 months, 5 days ago) |
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its actually quite hard to get your grains too dry for colonization, im not saying it doesnt happen but if you have soaked then boiled/simmered for even a short amount of time you should be fine, normally you would see the berries dry on the top if that is the issue, a simple shake once the rest is colonized will solve the issue.
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Re: Does this mycellium look normal? [Re: hellokitty]
#15846504 - 02/22/12 07:33 AM (3 months, 5 days ago) |
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Okay, my prep.
Rinse the rye grain under hot water. I usually rinse about 5 times. I then fill the pot with hot water and add about a teaspoon of gypsum and let sit for 24 hours. After the soak, I bring it to a boil for about 10-15 minutes before straining. I tried one to go 30 minutes, but I found a substantial amount of popped kernels. Nowhere near 5%, but still. I then strain and shake in strainer for about 30 minutes. I test a little bit on toilet paper to make sure enough water has evaporated and then I load my jars. I then cover with foil and PC them for 90 minutes. I let the PC cool over night.
The only way it would have dried out is because I drilled a 3/8" hole and filled with poly-fill. Maybe 3/8" is too big. My next jars will be 3/8" with a SFD covering the hole with RTV silicone.
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Re: Does this mycellium look normal? [Re: Bluemookie]
#15851103 - 02/23/12 05:21 AM (3 months, 4 days ago) |
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So, what's my play here? Do I spawn them with uncolonized grains? Do I shake them again? Do I just wait it out?
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Re: Does this mycellium look normal? [Re: Bluemookie]
#15851134 - 02/23/12 05:41 AM (3 months, 4 days ago) |
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never spawn uncolonized grains. if they are not colonizing then shake. % wise how much is not colonized? and yeah i would go with SFD or E-Zfelt(much cheaper and ive never had any issues)
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