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Re: Do You Use the Sandwich Method for Vaporizing DMT? [Re: VicariousGreg]
    #15794586 - 02/11/12 07:25 PM (3 months, 15 days ago)

If you can afford it go for the GVG. It is the single best smoking instrument I have ever had the luck to use.

No need for sandwich with the (G)VG.

If you plan to work with crystals I advise using 1 screen with a ribbon-style scouring pad ~3mm thick on top of it. You can use copper or stainless steel. I personally use the SS stuff as it is easier to find here. Some people like to pre-melt the crystals to the mesh but I have never bothered.

There may well be oils and stuff on the pad when you first get it. I clean mine with solvent, leave to evap then follow up by holding it with pliers over a strong gas flame until red hot.

If you only want to use changa in it you could get by with just the screen.

With regards to heat source don’t scrimp, I did and I wish I had just bothered to get a good one in the first place. The best one for this purpose appears to be the Turboflame Arc. It may seem a bit expensive but it is very worth it.

ps. watch your dosing with the (G)VG, it is tremendously powerful, 10mg less than my standard pipe/bong dose of 50mg was a very, very extreme experience! At the moment I dose 20–35mg and find 30mg+ to be on the extreme end of journeys.

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Re: Do You Use the Sandwich Method for Vaporizing DMT? [Re: dolob]
    #15802845 - 02/13/12 12:00 PM (3 months, 14 days ago)

I think I'm buying a wooden VG, so you know; how different is a wooden one from glass?


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Re: Do You Use the Sandwich Method for Vaporizing DMT? [Re: Noitartst]
    #15805137 - 02/13/12 06:59 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

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I think I'm buying a wooden VG, so you know; how different is a wooden one from glass?



The glass one is supposedly better, but I have the wooden one and it works completely fine. The nice thing about a glass one though is that you can see it fill up with vapor, while with the wood one you may be sucking in air the whole time. Once you figure out how to heat the VG properly it is really the best tool for Hyperspace exploration, you will be surprised how much DMT can be saved.


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Re: Do You Use the Sandwich Method for Vaporizing DMT? [Re: JimLahey]
    #15808133 - 02/14/12 12:10 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

I see, JimLahey; it makes sense.

Oh, and so screen is just something that's an additional buffer for the DMT, right, so it doesn't burn?  I take it these are mostly makeshift copper or stainless steel messhes made from household cleaning supplies, yes?

Also, a Turboflame Arc Lighter, Itake it, is a handheld, just like your normal flint, yes?


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Re: Do You Use the Sandwich Method for Vaporizing DMT? [Re: Noitartst]
    #15808296 - 02/14/12 12:53 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

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I see, JimLahey; it makes sense.

Oh, and so screen is just something that's an additional buffer for the DMT, right, so it doesn't burn?  I take it these are mostly makeshift copper or stainless steel messhes made from household cleaning supplies, yes?

Also, a Turboflame Arc Lighter, Itake it, is a handheld, just like your normal flint, yes?




You can buy pipe screens at any smoke shop for like ten cents each. When used for DMT, they help make sure the spice doesn't fall through when it melts.


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Re: Do You Use the Sandwich Method for Vaporizing DMT? [Re: VicariousGreg]
    #15809603 - 02/14/12 05:17 PM (3 months, 12 days ago)

You can use a screen/brillo on top to help distribute the heat evenly and prevent the DMT from burning.

But I run w/o a top screen and heat the brillo up that the crystals sit on before I load the pipe.  When I drop the crystals onto the brillo, they melt into it.  I then hit the pipe.


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Re: Do You Use the Sandwich Method for Vaporizing DMT? [Re: breeg89]
    #15811621 - 02/14/12 11:53 PM (3 months, 12 days ago)

i have like 5 screens under the DMT, I load caapi leaf as the base, then DMT, then Vape time


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Re: Do You Use the Sandwich Method for Vaporizing DMT? [Re: Noitartst]
    #15819412 - 02/16/12 02:46 PM (3 months, 10 days ago)

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Turboflame Arc Lighter, Itake it, is a handheld, just like your normal flint, yes?



It is a handheld lighter, but a bit bigger than ones that you would carry around in your pocket to light cigarettes, it is also a piezo ignition lighter so no flint.

There are some good Arc knock offs that are available too, I have only heard one report of use but seemed to be quite good, as well as 1/2 the price at least.


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Re: Do You Use the Sandwich Method for Vaporizing DMT? [Re: dolob]
    #15819776 - 02/16/12 04:27 PM (3 months, 10 days ago)

I bought a butane lighter for eight-some dollars yesterday, tried to light my pipe with it, but it went out startling fast, before I ever managed to ight it.  It had a nice, pointy-blue stiletto flame, but I bought only one, and didn't know there was no room for error, like with flint. 

Is this turbofglame arc, or whatever, so good because it doesn't burn out so fast? If so, maybe I should buy a full-scale butane can torch, I guess...?

Oh, and you place the the screens under the DMT?  Why? I found some Scotch Brite steel scouring pads in Walmart yesterday; would they serve as screens?  Anyone know the brand?


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Re: Do You Use the Sandwich Method for Vaporizing DMT? [Re: Noitartst]
    #15831578 - 02/19/12 09:29 AM (3 months, 8 days ago)

I think the Arc Turboflame is an excellent bit of kit, I am just gutted that I wasted money on other lighters first. It may look expensive but I think it’s worth it, if the expense bothers you I hear the knock-off copies are quite good too (they even weigh exactly the same too).


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Re: Do You Use the Sandwich Method for Vaporizing DMT? [Re: dolob]
    #15843697 - 02/21/12 04:37 PM (3 months, 5 days ago)

Alright, I'm listening; what makes it the best, though?  I've had trouble refilling a lighter I bought for around eight dollars, and was wondering if that's the what makes the Turboflame tops, or what.

How do you refill a butane lighter, anywho?  I've been pressing down, but it doesn't seem to be working.


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