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Anonymous #2
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It's normal to live in huts in africa. It's normal to be born with squinty eyes if your asian.  I really see no point in it's normal to od if you like drugs.
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Anonymous #12
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excuses. excuses...
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Anonymous #4
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Everyone has some theory......pretty much all BS. Bottom line, animals are free, we are not. Nothing wrong with being an activist and doing things that should be an assumed right. I don't think anybody has some weird "i'm badass" feeling for doing things that are knowingly illegal unless that person is in high school or something. But hey, thats just another stupid theory like the rest in here. Not everyone has a choice. Not everyone can just do what they want. Not everyone can just work wherever they want. World is fucked up. Psychedelics help people see that. I think it is a good thing to expose the evil ways of man that go against nature. It is a wake-up call for some. It was for me. It cured my years of hopeless depression that I spent sitting in a dank basement wasting my time on a computer. Now I am happy, now I am empowered to speak my mind and stand up for what I believe in. Now I am getting an education so I can do something important instead of working at low-end, low-paying, corporate jobs for my whole life. And I still do drugs (natural only). It is a medicine. Though I know I won't need it forever, it is helping me get out of a years long rut. I know what is important, I know what is not. I know what is right and what is wrong. While I still sometimes have no choice but to conform and buy consumer products (mostly because I have a family and am poor) I do my best to live within my means(and needs) and know that some day I will be making a difference for somebody or something and I will have that small farm that I dream of. My life has done nothing but improve since I started smoking pot and trippin. BIG TIME
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Anonymous #1
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Anonymous #8 said:
I also doubt this is going to make any sense to you if you already see a problem with it....kinda like why non-addicts are pretty much unable to understand why an addict does/acts certain ways.
Nah nah it does, I was replying to Anon 10.
Now two things:
1) The two extremes are the outcasts and the brainless TV addicts. The middle is actually held by people who are usually not outcasts themselves. Take Noam Chumsky as an example, or any other brilliant mind. You don't need to leave the company of your peers to have a good look at things. I'm a regular citizen and yet I don't watch TV and educate myself as much as I can. I have no problem questioning many aspects of the system. No need to be a poser to be a thinker!
2) This whole idea that the world us fucked up is delusional. For something to be wrong, there needs to be a right. But this is it, there is only one world, one reality. It cannot possibly be wrong or right.
This view is held for example by hardcore christians: in the 17th century, a French philosopher and scientist (Pascal) always used the term of "misery" to describe human nature, because he had the idea that man had lost his perfection when chased out of the garden of Eden. Well, from a materialistic and atheisr point of view, this is bullshit. Humanity is always losing and acquiring diferent things, and WE are PART of nature, we're not evil meanies who want to murder every Bambi who's around. Nature by essence is neutral, and its evolution is never essentially right or wrong. This judgement lies in the eye of the beholder, and is ultimately related to him.
I understand that psychedelics can help many people, and it's great, but many of the "teachings" I see are BS pseudo-philosphy. People with a higher understanding will typically have more interesting "breakthroughs" while many are stuck with simplistic thoughts about how the government is evil and how we have to love mother nature.
However, I'm not talking of users who lead a rich, healthy life on the side.
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Anonymous #4
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Anonymous #1 said:
People with a higher understanding will typically have more interesting "breakthroughs" while many are stuck with simplistic thoughts about how the government is evil and how we have to love mother nature.
You don't need hallucinogens to see that the government is evil. They are, no doubt about it. Not just government but corporations. This should be common sense. But I think so many people have their own illusions of grandeur, wanting to be rich/on top, that they support this evil bullshit for hopes of one day achieving such a position themselves. It is disgusting to me, materialism. Thats what it comes down to. People care about the unimportant, because that is what "they" want you to do. And "they" do a damn good job making it so. All the while we lose our rights and the planet gets raped all in the name of "progress" and hardly anybody truly cares. You may think you have it all figured out but you don't. But hey, I understand. EVERYONE gets defensive when someone starts badmouthing their disgusting way of life. Especially when society tells them they are doing the right thing.
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Anonymous #10
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Wow dude stop listening to Alex Jones and quit being so paranoid. The government looks out for us and does things for our own best interest. You'll learn this someday when you grow up.
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Anonymous #13
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Anonymous #2
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The government doesn't give a flying fuck about us dude. When people grow up they realize this. Seriously man...
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Anonymous #4
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Anonymous #10 said:
Wow dude stop listening to Alex Jones and quit being so paranoid. The government looks out for us and does things for our own best interest. You'll learn this someday when you grow up.
Wow, it makes me sad that people are this dumb. You have no idea the level of corruption that has been going on for a long time, do you? They don't give a crap about you, me, or our families.
Maybe once people like YOU wake the fuck up, we can take our country back. Unfortunately, in most cases, you can't fix stupid.
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Anonymous #1
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They do care about the people to some extent, since they are themselves people. Human beings.
It is true that the biggest drive in politics is the race for power; but power is not only about bending other people's will to your own : it's about shaping the world the way you see fit, too.
This is often the factor that is beneficial or detrimental to regular you&me. A leader will defend a certain vision of the world, where some people win and others lose. Some leaders will consider that all immigrants should be expelled; some consider that gay marriage is an abomination; some consider that education is a priority; some consider that the nation should have a powerful army. Of course, this is very simply said, but those are the mechanisms that rule governments.
However, people often overestimate the leader's capacity to change the country. Imagine the US or any other land as a boat sailing the seven seas. The president and the government are the captain and the crew. The boat is headed towards a certain direction, and if they want to change that direction, they have to put a lot of effort and thought in the new course. Extremists want to just turn around, Schettino style, not giving a fuck about consequences, but any other captain will just keep on going, steering left and right, but never really changing the general direction.
Not only that, but a government is composed of more than just the core leaders. From secretaries to the public services, thousands and thousands of individuals apply orders the way they see fit. This is why change is often very slow if no one keeps an eye of it.
I do feel that very educated people tend to be quite misanthropist. Human history is made of error and idiocy. Candidates aknowledge the fact that their appearance is more important than their competence or projects, especially in the US. They learn how to use ignorance. They learn that 2/3 of the country are obese, and that most of it is completely fucking dumb.
In this sense, they don't really care about people. How could you? You'd need to have huge empathy levels to care about people after witnessing so much stupidity and greed. But they do care about the country. They manage the country. They're intellectuals, they love the idea, not the people.
However, the government as an entity does look out for its citizens. I'm receiving 400€ per month to study, and would get 200 more if I wanted an apartment. My parents don't pay taxes. We live in a 100m² apartment with a 600€/month rent. All thanks to the state! But it's not because the government (which is an abstract entity, btw) loves us, it's simply that you need wealthy, educated citizens to keep the boat running. It's like running a business, really.
People usually agree when you tell them that not everything is black and white, but they often give in into similar nonesense nonetheless. Now, you can either read what I just explained, and think about how decisions are made when thousands of thousands of people make them, or you can still just believe that the "government" (define "government" maybe?) is just a big meanie.
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Anonymous #14
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i ask you a simple question #1
where does money come from and why does it exist.
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Anonymous #15
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wgaf..
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Anonymous #2
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Because the argument has started and it will have to end with a loser.
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Anonymous #1
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Oh my, I have no idea.
I guess it appeared around -4000 BC, with the invention of writing, or maybe much later, during the bronze age, in Mesopotamia probably I guess. Too lazy to check wiki.
As why it exists, it's very simple: as social groups grow bigger and bigger, direct trades become more and more difficult. An abstract symbol of wealth allows you to acquire meat and pottery without having to actually give something of your making. Why such a question?
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Anonymous #2
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It exists because...we let it exist. If you take a 5 dollar bill ,which will buy a 5 dollar foot long, and decide to make that $5 worth 2 subs then it would be worth differently. If everyone does this money ammounts would change. Like in the depression when they used (shells?/rocks?) and engraved stores that was accepted on them. It's only worth what society as a whole deems its value.
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Anonymous #1
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Pretty much anything that is man-made exists because we let it exist. :p
It's not specific to money.
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Anonymous #2
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Not true. We can't possibly destroy everything. We can destroy human concepts and ideas however. Kind like the one where you think the government isn't fucking money grubbing bigots who don't give a fuck about us. They care about them not us. They do what benefits the politicians.
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Anonymous #1
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Ah, yes, very strong arguments, I'm most definitely convinced that the government is the incarnation of Satan on earth...
On a serious note, name one thing that is man-made that we cannot destroy.
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Anonymous #2
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i'm a satanist...
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Anonymous #14
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I was hoping you'd say out of thin air or printing machines #1. but you didn't as i expected you read the question how i assumed you'd read it.
I only asked because you and your family get government assistance. And even though we all would like to believe here in america we get our foodstamps and nigger baby(white people too are niggers) welfare from taxpayers, i would express my ability to call bullshit. I don't know how it is in wherever you live in europe but i would assume it is also created out of thin air. Once here in america paper 'bills' were once backed by tangible gold, which for even believing that i am now a terrorist in the FBEYEs eyes. The government is only one smaller entity on a larger global scale of control. The governments across the world do things based off of specific interests in no way or shape to help better man kind as a whole. Their interests are purely selfish among a group of who knows how many and in my opinion it is based on power,control and ultimate global dominance which from what it seems like they have mostly completed. Would you like to know who they have had a hard time controlling to their specific interests?
What about those muslims? why so much pressure on these little brown people? well in the years past and future to come you will see what i mean. its not about fucking oil. trust me.
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