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 0Senormojito0
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 What is wrong with me?
#15780039 - 02/08/12 03:51 PM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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To begin with i would say that typically i am a happy person that is fairly intelligent however i experienced a lot of pain and hurt when i was younger. However, i started smoking pot when i was a junior in high school and tripped for the first time in march of my senior year. It was a very enlightening experience, but i had a good period of time during this trip where i was freaking out and it took til the end of it before i started to feel better. Im a freshman in college now and ive done mushrooms around 5 times, acid 2 times, and probably what was DOX or some acid analogue twice. However, every time i trip i seem to start thinking too hard or something happens which puts me completely out of reality and my friends tell me afterwards how i was saying things and doing things i usually dont remember, and these things are usually bad, like screaming swear words at my friends and running naked around campus at 4 in the morning. Despite this all though when im sober im a peaceful kind person and i think that there is a lot that can be gained from tripping, i just get the feeling im doing it wrong. Can anyone offer any insight for me into what i should do? Besides not tripping for a while because im already sure im not gonna trip again either until im older or just never again.
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Could it be that you take to high of a dose? I once ate 5 grams and it was the only blackout experience I'd ever had with mushrooms which kind of freaked me out so now I don't eat more than 2 grams for the initial dose. I also think you dose with the wrong mindset. We all have problems one way or another and I'd be lying if I said that I've never had a bad as well. What often helps me when a trip starts going bad is I repeat in my mind that it'll be over in couple hours(with my couple gram dose)and everything will be chill again. Hope this helps!
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 joemolloy
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These drugs can make you crazy. Literally. Some people can trip and feel peace and love. Sometimes those same people have bad trips. Its always a probabilistic endeavor and that's why these drugs are not more popular. Take drugs and feel like a nutty, miserable screwball? No thanks, says your casual weekend warrior looking for a good time.
I'm sure some people will chime in with advice on how to relax and navigate the choppy waters with reference to set and setting. Good luck.
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sonamdrukpa
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Make sure to have a trip-sitter who understands you well and has a calming presence. They have to be able to both understand you (as in, be able to be in the psychedelic headspace while completely sober), and know how to bring you back. This is the most important thing, but there are also very few people who can do this.
Carry around an mp3 player with a variety of calming music (variety is key since music often sounds different while tripping).
If you're tripping just at night, a switch to the daytime might help. People feel more uninhibited and antisocial in the darkness.
Try to be more tactile and just "experience" the world around you instead of trying to guide the trip. I know this is sort of squishy, I hope you know what I mean. If you recognize that you are getting into a hard-thinking mode, it helps to have something like "Don't worry" or "You're on drugs" already written on your hand or arm to anchor you.
Meditate in your regular life - being aware of and in control of your mind helps you stay "normal" while tripping. Meditation can help you learn to do that, or do it better.
I agree with Evil Toadstool about the dosage, everyone loses their shit at some level. Try a few trips at just threshold dosage, then work your way up. You'll probably learn something about yourself as a bonus;).
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Just a +1 for both of the excellent posts here. Those two have you covered! 
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0Senormojito0
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Re: What is wrong with me? [Re: Cynosure]
#15793179 - 02/11/12 02:18 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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well first off, thanks a lot for the information it helped a lot. I only took 2 grams of some cubies, so it wasnt an intense dose but i think i might just be particularly susceptible to shrooms. Also, i was talking to a friend of mine, who was with me for the trip, and he was talking about how you should really only do psychedelics once you have "found yourself" i know it sounds kind of cliche, but would anyone else agree with this?
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"I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain."
Edited by 0Senormojito0 (02/11/12 02:20 PM)
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Re: What is wrong with me? [Re: joemolloy]
#15793236 - 02/11/12 02:30 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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joemolloy said:
Its always a probabilistic endeavor
Ok that's at least twice today you've used this word. You must be studying this in college or something. Either that or you're stuck in a thought loop :P
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Psych's aren't for everyone and if you're running around campus nude they certainly aren't for you. If you are losing control of yourself like that on psyches you shouldn't be taking them imo.
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Re: What is wrong with me? [Re: bollocks]
#15793272 - 02/11/12 02:40 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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bollocks said:
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joemolloy said:
Its always a probabilistic endeavor
Ok that's at least twice today you've used this word. You must be studying this in college or something. Either that or you're stuck in a thought loop :P
Or it's just a good word for it. 
I think it's safe to say joemolloy isn't studying anything in college  .
OP, do what these folks said and try a lower dose. Two grams is fairly low, but some people have a naturally lower tolerance to psilocin. You could be one of them. Hell, if you've got a reasonable amount of mushrooms to play with, try taking 1 gram and see where that takes you.
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Meteloides
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Try tripping without smoking weed. Pot tends to take a lot of people over the edge into insanity when combined with other psychedelics.
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Quote:
0Senormojito0 said:
Also, i was talking to a friend of mine, who was with me for the trip, and he was talking about how you should really only do psychedelics once you have "found yourself" i know it sounds kind of cliche, but would anyone else agree with this?
For some people this may be true, but it certainly is not true for all.
I could write a whole damn novel on how far I am from having found myself... (In fact I did write several paragraphs, then deleted them - pretty sure nobody wants to hear that shit =P)
Psychs are totally my kinda thing...
I'm a thinker. I can spend all day sitting around thinking happily, so psychs just take it to the next level.
I learn more about myself and the way I think when I take them
They help me temporarily get my priorities in order and break the habits I'm into (ones that ultimately make me unhappy but even knowing that, I still do them...)
Also they're just the most fun I've had in my life.
There are many parts to the equation.
In my mind I'm constantly attacking myself, and I have social anxiety... These 2 thing together are a forced to be reckoned with when in the wrong headspace and tripping with others. But for me, the good outweighs the bad. (By far - they're fixing the anxiety and attacking self)
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joemolloy
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Re: What is wrong with me? [Re: bollocks]
#15793646 - 02/11/12 04:05 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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bollocks said:
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joemolloy said:
Its always a probabilistic endeavor
Ok that's at least twice today you've used this word. You must be studying this in college or something. Either that or you're stuck in a thought loop :P
Actually this post was from a few days ago and my other post was written today. It's a shame you're like a lousy student in school who focuses on the pointless details rather than the important lesson that I'm teaching here. Yeah, its a probabilistic endeavor every time you eat cactus. Sometimes 12 inches will trip you out for 36 hours and then 16 inches from the same mother cactus will have you trip for 16 hours. Pay attention.
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sonamdrukpa
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Re: What is wrong with me? [Re: joemolloy]
#15794876 - 02/11/12 08:13 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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You could also have some very potent cubes.
Some people "find themselves" before they take psychedelics, some people "find themselves" while on psychedelics, some people never "find themselves" at all. I do not think it is a necessary prerequisite.
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Psyches can be a very useful tool in finding yourself. Hey a low tolerance to Psilocin can't be a bad thing, you'll save a lot of money! Also... I read a trip report on erowid where this guy took shrooms, ran around campus naked, and I think got arrested? Is this you?
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Re: What is wrong with me? [Re: Phenom]
#15795060 - 02/11/12 08:48 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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dude good jams and good people....
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0Senormojito0
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 Re: What is wrong with me? [Re: Jdiz]
#15795440 - 02/11/12 10:11 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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hahaha nah, ive never posted a trip report, usually because i feel like what i was thinking usually wouldnt make any sense when im not tripping, but yeah i guess its just different for everyone and its something for me to try again later when im in a more stable time and place in my life. But yeah ive tried only taking a gram and while after the trip i thought it wasnt enough, im thinking now that it might have actually been a sufficient dose, i got mild visuals and trippy thoughts for a few hours. Also in regards to getting arrested, i think i might just be really lucky, since ive had a few close calls.
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you should probably not eat psychedelics if you are blacking out and yelling at people and running naked... sometimes you need to weigh positives and negatives bro
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0Senormojito0
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i mean yeah im not tripping again for a while if ever, i already said that, it just bothers me that i cant get out of it as much as my friends do, or from what i can tell, get what a whole lot of other people get out of it.
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Big Pappa
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Your expecting too much....
Take a little, and go with the flow. Dont try to control the trip, just try to stay grounded in reality while tripping.
Sit next to a nice florescent lamp, and let the warmth of the lamps glow surround you and fill your soul... Close your eyes and hear all the sounds, and the universe talking to you. You can be one with it, or you can fight it and loose.
Ride the wave, and go where it takes you.
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Re: What is wrong with me? [Re: Big Pappa]
#15796154 - 02/12/12 02:35 AM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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big pappa knows whats up man just eat it and act like u never did it just go about and be cool with it....if you think about it too much it will go bad bro....
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Meteloides
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Re: What is wrong with me? [Re: Big Pappa]
#15803132 - 02/13/12 12:54 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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Big Pappa said:
You can be one with it, or you can fight it and loose.
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Re: What is wrong with me? [Re: Jdiz]
#15803657 - 02/13/12 02:44 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Big Pappa said:
Your expecting too much....
Take a little, and go with the flow. Dont try to control the trip, just try to stay grounded in reality while tripping.
Sit next to a nice florescent lamp, and let the warmth of the lamps glow surround you and fill your soul... Close your eyes and hear all the sounds, and the universe talking to you. You can be one with it, or you can fight it and loose.
Ride the wave, and go where it takes you.
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Jdiz said:
just eat it and act like u never did it just go about and be cool with it....if you think about it too much it will go bad bro....
Let the trip take you where it will.
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