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 Alan Rockefeller
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 Re: [AU] $15m drug lab bust  [Re: ShroomDoom]
#15788281 - 02/10/12 10:43 AM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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Alcohol fermented in the stomach from fruit is natural
It does not ferment in the stomach. It ferments on the ground, and when you eat it the acids and enzymes in your stomach stop the fermentation.
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however when you distill it and refine it to a stronger product becomes quite a different beast. I don't feel like these man-made products with preservatives and refined sugars are natural and if they are the association is very loose.
I can get just as drunk off of beer or overripe fruit as I can on vodka or everclear. Just takes a bit longer.
The preservatives and refined sugars have very little to do with the heath risks from drinking. The ethanol is the direct cause of the health problems.
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 maug
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Lord_McLovin said:
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I'd like to think that politics could be an exact science
When looking into several different global/political issues, I kept on coming to the conclusion that most of the issues stem from the same bottleneck - communication. I only claimed that it's theoretically possible. We would need to stop bastardizing our vocabulary, and that's a big leap. For example socialism for a country can't mean that you make all those people poor, if socialism for the rich means you make all those people richer. And then we can justify turning the term on it's head, because we wanted to describe fascism. If the parts of the vocabulary are set, you have relative measurement. All measurement is a relative measurement, so that's good enough for me.
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Lord_McLovin
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Re: [AU] $15m drug lab bust [Re: maug]
#15788881 - 02/10/12 02:35 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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maug said:
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Lord_McLovin said:
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I'd like to think that politics could be an exact science
When looking into several different global/political issues, I kept on coming to the conclusion that most of the issues stem from the same bottleneck - communication. I only claimed that it's theoretically possible. We would need to stop bastardizing our vocabulary, and that's a big leap. For example socialism for a country can't mean that you make all those people poor, if socialism for the rich means you make all those people richer. And then we can justify turning the term on it's head, because we wanted to describe fascism.
Please let me elaborate. The reason why active politics cannot be considered a science lies in the nature of political and scientific discussions.
Scientific discussions are, by definition, unbiased and the main objective of a scientific disussion is to gain insight and knowledge.
Political discussions, however, have an entirely different objective, namely the realization of one's own (mostly economic) interest. Debate is not used as a tool of gaining knowledge, but as a tool of making others look bad and oneself look good.
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If the parts of the vocabulary are set, you have relative measurement. All measurement is a relative measurement, so that's good enough for me.
I don't get that part. You can only measure things which are properly defined and actually quantifiable. Important political terms like "justness" are not quantifiable.
Moreover I don't get what you mean when you refer to "relative measurement".
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maug
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You should PM me if you wanna chat about it. I don't wanna take a thread too far off course.
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atomicshaman
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and for the record , i like speed and smack as much as any of you.
Oh, a speed and smack shaman who hates junkies and speed chemists.
Very creative.
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closet hippie
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Society said:
I've seen a friend hit by a car.
Make automobiles illegal IMMEDATELY!!!!!111
I'm with you on this and any other analogy like it.
Ban fast food or Heavily processed ones make them Illegal watch how quick drug laws would disappear.
Isn't sugar and fats already proven themselves to be a type of drug LOOK at all the fat people. How many of us just crave crap food just like cigarettes. All you can eat, the sign could also say slow suicide. It Is the peoples choice.
I think there is a very good chance cannabis will become legalized with this coming election. But not fully legalized they will try And Fuck around with it somehow. Ron paul looks like he has a very good chance at winning but I doubt he would win, large corporations that have alot to loose will make sure that they all buy into some other ... not him. Or his attitude will chang in the seat as obamas did Political Pressure is the real winner not the people.
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Re: [AU] $15m drug lab bust [Re: Meteloides]
#15791590 - 02/11/12 06:13 AM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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Meteloides said:
Forget all this stupid infighting about amphetamine for a minute.
Just stop and admire the sheer fucking beauty of that glassware those pigs are defiling.
I don't even know what that thing is, but I want one. If only to turn it into the coolest bong ever.
Got that right!
I think it is a roto-vap, based on the gear-looking mechanism.(This would turn a flask in an oil bath, so nothing is scorched, also facilitating faster evap) While I don't think it is MANDATORY in amphetamine production, it IS used in the production of LSD. The purpose of a rotovap is to distill a solvent from a product at an extremely low temp, protecting fragile molecules, and reclaiming the solvent, which would definitely keep down the smell of evaporating solvents.
This is a guess. AFOAF has only distillation glass
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: [AU] $15m drug lab bust [Re: Al-K-Mist]
#15793061 - 02/11/12 01:49 PM (3 months, 15 days ago) |
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Al-K-Mist said:
I think it is a roto-vap, based on the gear-looking mechanism.
I agree.
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it IS used in the production of LSD. The purpose of a rotovap is to distill a solvent from a product at an extremely low temp, protecting fragile molecules, and reclaiming the solvent, which would definitely keep down the smell of evaporating solvents.
I have used a rotovap to fractionally distill marijuana, with amazing results. We used ether as the solvent and bunsen burner for heat. The first thing that comes over is the terpenes - Concentrated terpenes smell better than the most aromatic weed, and are not prohibited. Next pure THC comes over. The tars and waxes from the plant remain in the evaporation flask.
I live in a medical marijuana state, and I don't understand why more people don't do this. Lots of people like to smoke weed, but who wants to smoke tars, cellulose and waxes? By mixing the first two fractions and leaving the third, all of the positive chemicals that people want when they smoke weed are there, and all of the negative ones are not.
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FractalDust
Inspired by the mystery
Registered: 03/20/05
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Loc: Blue Mu
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Alan Rockefeller said:
I have used a rotovap to fractionally distill marijuana, with amazing results. We used ether as the solvent and bunsen burner for heat. The first thing that comes over is the terpenes - Concentrated terpenes smell better than the most aromatic weed, and are not prohibited. Next pure THC comes over. The tars and waxes from the plant remain in the evaporation flask.
I live in a medical marijuana state, and I don't understand why more people don't do this. Lots of people like to smoke weed, but who wants to smoke tars, cellulose and waxes? By mixing the first two fractions and leaving the third, all of the positive chemicals that people want when they smoke weed are there, and all of the negative ones are not.
Nice, got any pics of the final product?
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Alan Rockefeller
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Nice, got any pics of the final product?
No, I didn't own a camera in 1998.
The terpene fraction was a clear liquid.
The pure THC was a very sticky and viscous yellow liquid.
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FractalDust
Inspired by the mystery
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Alan Rockefeller said:
No, I didn't own a camera in 1998.
The terpene fraction was a clear liquid.
The pure THC was a very sticky and viscous yellow liquid.
You should get it goin again. As I'm sure you know oil dabs are all the rage these days and I bet dabs of that shit would be killer.
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