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Acceptance
    #15766684 - 02/05/12 10:14 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

the answer to life? Acceptance?... Eat what you're fed and like it.


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Re: Acceptance [Re: Breadnbutterfly86]
    #15766689 - 02/05/12 10:15 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

What about choices tho?


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Re: Acceptance [Re: teknix]
    #15766715 - 02/05/12 10:24 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

a doctor is a doctor, you wanna be a doctor? a burger flipper is a burger flipper, wanna be a burger flipper? gods real no its not. mountain man, business man. solitaire or companionship.... invent something? an inventor...


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Re: Acceptance [Re: Breadnbutterfly86] * 1
    #15766717 - 02/05/12 10:24 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

No!  I refuse to believe in your philosophy.  :noway:


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Re: Acceptance [Re: deCypher]
    #15766723 - 02/05/12 10:26 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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No!  I refuse to believe in your philosophy.  :noway:




why? why? why?


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Re: Acceptance [Re: Breadnbutterfly86]
    #15766806 - 02/05/12 10:56 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

Acceptance is for losers!  Imagine if that was allowed in sports!


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Re: Acceptance [Re: tempusvita]
    #15766813 - 02/05/12 11:01 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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Acceptance is for losers!  Imagine if that was allowed in sports!




with that... do you then take what you want?


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Re: Acceptance [Re: Breadnbutterfly86]
    #15766834 - 02/05/12 11:08 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

Yeah!  If you want something, take it!

But to a degree.  Taking from other people, or hurting them, is like signing consent forms to allow the same thing to be done to you.  Treat others how you honestly would like to be treated.

And I mean some acceptance is healthy.

If your 4 feet tall as an adult, I think its a good idea to accept you won't ever be accepted into the NBA.


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Re: Acceptance [Re: tempusvita]
    #15766856 - 02/05/12 11:16 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

there is a winner and a loser. this years winner is last years loser. vice versa. and so on.


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Re: Acceptance [Re: Breadnbutterfly86]
    #15766871 - 02/05/12 11:28 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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the answer to life? Acceptance?... Eat what you're fed and like it.




Acceptance is what you do when you run out of ammo.


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Re: Acceptance [Re: Icelander]
    #15766878 - 02/05/12 11:33 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

Davy Crockett?


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Re: Acceptance [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #15766884 - 02/05/12 11:35 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

I think so.


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Re: Acceptance [Re: Icelander]
    #15766897 - 02/05/12 11:39 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

ouch. so adapt and overcome?


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Re: Acceptance [Re: Breadnbutterfly86]
    #15767212 - 02/06/12 04:02 AM (3 months, 21 days ago)

accept what? that you speak in riddles? :willynilly:


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Re: Acceptance [Re: Breadnbutterfly86]
    #15767672 - 02/06/12 08:32 AM (3 months, 21 days ago)

He said he doesn't believe in your philosophy. If you believe in your philosophy, don't ask him why, accept it.


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Re: Acceptance [Re: Icelander]
    #15767777 - 02/06/12 09:23 AM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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the answer to life? Acceptance?... Eat what you're fed and like it.




Acceptance is what you do when you run out of ammo.




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Re: Acceptance [Re: tempusvita]
    #15768795 - 02/06/12 02:04 PM (3 months, 20 days ago)

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But to a degree.  Taking from other people, or hurting them, is like signing consent forms to allow the same thing to be done to you.  Treat others how you honestly would like to be treated.




How is hurting someone the same thing as allowing for someone to hurt you? It seems to me that the opposite of this is true, as hurting others is usually done for some benefit on your part.


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Re: Acceptance [Re: 4896744]
    #15769220 - 02/06/12 03:26 PM (3 months, 20 days ago)

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But to a degree.  Taking from other people, or hurting them, is like signing consent forms to allow the same thing to be done to you.  Treat others how you honestly would like to be treated.




How is hurting someone the same thing as allowing for someone to hurt you? It seems to me that the opposite of this is true, as hurting others is usually done for some benefit on your part.





That's just my advice.  I can't explain why.  Go try it yourself. 
Murder someone and the community will see it fit your life is taken.  Steal and the community will steal your freedom.

I like it.  I have an idea of why.  But it will take to long to explain.


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Re: Acceptance [Re: tempusvita] * 1
    #15769234 - 02/06/12 03:29 PM (3 months, 20 days ago)

What do you mean you can't explain why? :nono:

Why are you in a debate forum if you can't explain yourself?


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Re: Acceptance [Re: Icelander]
    #15769243 - 02/06/12 03:30 PM (3 months, 20 days ago)

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I have an idea of why.  But it will take to long to explain.




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Re: Acceptance [Re: xFrockx]
    #15770862 - 02/06/12 08:19 PM (3 months, 20 days ago)

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accept what? that you speak in riddles? :willynilly:




accept that this tiny planet is a prison cell.

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He said he doesn't believe in your philosophy. If you believe in your philosophy, don't ask him why, accept it.




i just wanted to know why... because no matter what it always leads back to acceptance.


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Re: Acceptance [Re: Breadnbutterfly86] * 1
    #15770902 - 02/06/12 08:28 PM (3 months, 20 days ago)

accept that this tiny planet is a prison cell.

from my perspective this planet is far from tiny and has everything i could want (within reason). some people say their body is a prison cell but i think most of those people are just anxious about their impending demise.


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Re: Acceptance [Re: Breadnbutterfly86]
    #15771138 - 02/06/12 09:07 PM (3 months, 20 days ago)

"i just wanted to know why... because no matter what it always leads back to acceptance. "

I didn't ask for any back talk. I asked you to practice what you preach.


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Re: Acceptance [Re: xFrockx]
    #15772804 - 02/07/12 07:49 AM (3 months, 20 days ago)

I think accepting yourself is good. I use to run away from my compassion and love, and tried to be mean and tough, but this only hurt people, my conscious, and relationships.

It is okay to be a kind, caring, and loving man. Macho is over rated.


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Re: Acceptance [Re: dkmonk]
    #15772957 - 02/07/12 08:21 AM (3 months, 20 days ago)

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It is okay to be a kind, caring, and loving man. Macho is over rated.




Bollocks.  Nice guys finish last....until the women they are after turn 30.


TBH I hate any idea of acceptance.  It's the absolute worse thing you can do in life unless it is absolutely the best thing.


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Re: Acceptance [Re: tempusvita]
    #15773129 - 02/07/12 09:05 AM (3 months, 20 days ago)

You can be a strong man and embody your masculinity without having macho bravado. I look like I would be a douche bag type jock. I think that makes most people assume that I am, but when they talk to me, especially girls they realize that I have a tender heart and am caring. I also don't have very many interests with jocks, although I was a start athlete I am not interested in sports like watching them or caring who plays in them. I played sports because I was good at them, and that is what my parents said I had to do until I got to a certain age.

I can stand up for myself and won't let someone push me around, but I am not one to pick a fight. Although, when I was young I use to tease people a lot, because that is what my friends did, and I thought it was cool to pick on the weaker kids.


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Re: Acceptance [Re: xFrockx]
    #15775452 - 02/07/12 05:40 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

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"i just wanted to know why... because no matter what it always leads back to acceptance. "

I didn't ask for any back talk. I asked you to practice what you preach.




i just did...


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Re: Acceptance [Re: Breadnbutterfly86]
    #15777049 - 02/07/12 10:45 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

Its not really about choosing a persona its more of whats going inside will reflect outside , and acceptance does tie to this  for me anyhow when i could not accept anger was my bread and butter and it worked really well in terms of dominance and getting what i wanted although you yourself know your a phoney even if you do fool the world.


'Bollocks.  Nice guys finish last....until the women they are after turn 30.'

There is truth to this , like the way we are brought up in Western Culture bigger ego the better so that humble humility shit don't fly with the bitches these days they just think you are shy , and would rather you contest in the who has a bigger dick game.

I accept another word for yes


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Re: Acceptance [Re: Withinity]
    #15777304 - 02/07/12 11:57 PM (3 months, 19 days ago)

I think accepting situations can be very humble. I use to fight tooth and nail against what I didn't want to happen and instead of putting down my battle gear and accepting that this is what I ultimately have to do or risk possible unwanted consequences, I went against the grain and suffered over and over for it just to prove a point, but it just proved I was being stubborn and ignorant, because I thought my defiance proved I won, when I really only lost over and over.

I don't view settling and accepting at the same thing, and I think that is what some people have in their heads.

Settling is knowing you can change your situation to achieve a more favorable outcome, and accepting is being content with a situation that you can't control without worsening your situation potentially.

I fought the law and the law won! lol


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Re: Acceptance [Re: Breadnbutterfly86]
    #15777582 - 02/08/12 02:21 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

Acceptance is a white flag, and in surrender you risk being taken prisoner. Is it not better to seek a truce and maintain your independence?


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Re: Acceptance [Re: tribesman]
    #15777599 - 02/08/12 02:29 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

I don't view accepting certain things as me giving up and surrendering, that thought process is what led me to fight what I needed to just accept and move on.

If something has to be done that I don't like, but I must do it, then I accept the fact that I must overcome the obstacle and do it in the best way possible. I then complete it with having a good mind set about it, and am glad it is over. It didn't change my views, and I didn't let it put me in a bad mood. I win twice.


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Re: Acceptance [Re: dkmonk] * 1
    #15777600 - 02/08/12 02:29 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

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I fought the law and the law won! lol




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Re: Acceptance [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #15777601 - 02/08/12 02:30 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

Sure glad I was the Deputy!


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Re: Acceptance [Re: dkmonk]
    #15810625 - 02/14/12 08:17 PM (3 months, 12 days ago)

i'm not sayin, i'm just sayin.... no matter what it ALWAYS leads back to acceptance. accept what you are, accept what is, accept life and death, accept everything. accept or deny. the longer one avoids acceptance, the more it hurts when the time comes to accept.


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Re: Acceptance [Re: Breadnbutterfly86]
    #15813002 - 02/15/12 09:59 AM (3 months, 12 days ago)

I can accept that. :satansmoking:


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Re: Acceptance [Re: Icelander]
    #15814026 - 02/15/12 02:20 PM (3 months, 11 days ago)

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I can accept that. :satansmoking:




why thanks... i didnt really mention but you kinda have to accept what you are not, what is not and the opposites of things as well, if that makes sense.


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