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Uber spiritual people never display their powers. * 2
    #15766068 - 02/05/12 07:45 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

Really? And someone knows this from not seeing any siddhis performed?

This is one of the most popular and ridiculous excuses for no one being able to pass a skeptic's muster. First off, no one is able to present any validity to this claim. Secondly, if it cannot be witnessed by anyone it cannot be known.


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Re: Uber spiritual people never display their powers. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #15766097 - 02/05/12 07:53 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

I'd flaunt my uber-powerful siddhis for y'all but that would be showing too much ego.  :ohwell:


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Re: Uber spiritual people never display their powers. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #15766123 - 02/05/12 07:59 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

Maybe it's less that spiritual powers need to be proven, but rather skeptics must initiate their own investigation.

I think it's safe to blame institutionalized religion for science developing separately from spirituality. However, it can be seen as a blessing and a curse.


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Re: Uber spiritual people never display their powers. [Re: Forest_Gospel]
    #15766154 - 02/05/12 08:05 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

The Placebo Effect is proof of uber super powers we have.


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Re: Uber spiritual people never display their powers. [Re: Forest_Gospel]
    #15766175 - 02/05/12 08:10 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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but rather skeptics must initiate their own investigation.




Yes, we must spend every waking moment chasing down chimeras. :yawn:


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Re: Uber spiritual people never display their powers. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #15766182 - 02/05/12 08:12 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

The chew a cobra essay


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Re: Uber spiritual people never display their powers. [Re: Forest_Gospel]
    #15766200 - 02/05/12 08:17 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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I think it's safe to blame institutionalized religion for science developing separately from spirituality.




No, there will always be a rift between fact and fantasy, belief and proof.


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Re: Uber spiritual people never display their powers. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #15766234 - 02/05/12 08:25 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

What do I win if I can increase the voltage on a multimeter just from holding the leads and concentrating?

Or increase temperature of an area of my body to above 100 degree's Fahrenheit?


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Re: Uber spiritual people never display their powers. [Re: teknix]
    #15766308 - 02/05/12 08:42 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

What do you think you have some kind of better way to look down on people?



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Re: Uber spiritual people never display their powers. [Re: Jwlst]
    #15766320 - 02/05/12 08:45 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

I can even show that holding the positive lead in the right hand and negative lead in the left hand will yield a positive result, whereas the negative lead in the right hand and positive in the left will yield a negative result. Showing the polarity, that has been described as yin and yang. Right hand is yang and left is yin is what has been taught, and can be proven imo.


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Re: Uber spiritual people never display their powers. [Re: teknix]
    #15766431 - 02/05/12 09:11 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

AC voltage is the setting if you care to experiment.


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Re: Uber spiritual people never display their powers. [Re: Jwlst]
    #15766493 - 02/05/12 09:25 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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What do you think you have some kind of better way to look down on people?






The pipe is connected to an apparatus he is sitting on.

Took me a lil to figure it out.  But the pipe was a give away.


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Re: Uber spiritual people never display their powers. [Re: teknix]
    #15766494 - 02/05/12 09:25 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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teknix said:
I can even show that holding the positive lead in the right hand and negative lead in the left hand will yield a positive result, whereas the negative lead in the right hand and positive in the left will yield a negative result. Showing the polarity, that has been described as yin and yang. Right hand is yang and left is yin is what has been taught, and can be proven imo.




Sorry, didn't quite catch that..negative goes in which hand now?



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The pipe is connected to an apparatus he is sitting on.

Took me a lil to figure it out.  But the pipe was a give away.





Yep that is correct, the pipe is actually holding up a litte stand for him to sit on.


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Re: Uber spiritual people never display their powers. [Re: Jwlst]
    #15766624 - 02/05/12 09:59 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

^.~ multimeter, not power line.

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Re: Uber spiritual people never display their powers. [Re: teknix]
    #15766636 - 02/05/12 10:01 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)



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Re: Uber spiritual people never display their powers. [Re: teknix]
    #15766752 - 02/05/12 10:35 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)



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Re: Uber spiritual people never display their powers. [Re: tempusvita]
    #15766819 - 02/05/12 11:04 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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The pipe is connected to an apparatus he is sitting on.

Took me a lil to figure it out.  But the pipe was a give away.




Works better right in the middle. :blush:


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Re: Uber spiritual people never display their powers. [Re: teknix]
    #15766828 - 02/05/12 11:07 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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What do I win if I can increase the voltage on a multimeter just from holding the leads and concentrating?



Do you believe electric eels are spiritually enlightened?

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Or increase temperature of an area of my body to above 100 degree's Fahrenheit?



How do you consider that to be supernatural? How does that not follow natural laws?


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Re: Uber spiritual people never display their powers. [Re: Jwlst]
    #15766833 - 02/05/12 11:08 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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Jwlst said:
Quote:

teknix said:
I can even show that holding the positive lead in the right hand and negative lead in the left hand will yield a positive result, whereas the negative lead in the right hand and positive in the left will yield a negative result. Showing the polarity, that has been described as yin and yang. Right hand is yang and left is yin is what has been taught, and can be proven imo.




Sorry, didn't quite catch that..negative goes in which hand now?



Quote:

tempusvita said:
The pipe is connected to an apparatus he is sitting on.

Took me a lil to figure it out.  But the pipe was a give away.





Yep that is correct, the pipe is actually holding up a litte stand for him to sit on.




That guy almost won the million dollars. :ohwell:


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Re: Uber spiritual people never display their powers. [Re: tempusvita]
    #15768682 - 02/06/12 01:46 PM (3 months, 20 days ago)

The pipe is connected to an apparatus he is sitting on.

I saw that picture on another web forum where a HUGE fight broke out between the believers and the skeptics. Believers insisted that this guy is [fill in hard to pronounce name] and known the world over for his abilities. They insisted that he's over 400 years old and that he has not eaten food or drunk water in several decades. It was a deeply absurd level of belief despite what an obvious fraud this is. The stick he's "sitting" on isn't even vertical. It's leaning due to his weight. Obviously, there's a seat attached at one end to the top of the stick.

Even after several people posted pictures of them doing the same thing but revealing the apparatus to the camera, the believers fought tooth and nail against the truth and clung to their beliefs even in the face of hard, unassailable debunking. The profound stupidity of faithful belief never ceases to amaze me even after all these years I've observed it.

That forum thread reminded me a bit of this place, especially the S&M and Conspiracy forums where there's little rational counter-debate. :sad:


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