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 xFrockx
 
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 Happiness is not that great 
#15760230 - 02/04/12 12:22 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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Happiness can seem like a good thing, even an ideal. Why is this? What's so great about feeling happy? What is feeling happy, exactly? Is it having your needs met? Is it being safe? Is it doing what you want to? In all of these cases, it seems selfish to be happy. Happiness instills blindness to that which does not fit into the picture that the happiness requires. Failure, loss of personal safety, hunger, starvation, and death and the suffering of others.
So what's so great about being "happy"?
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Re: Happiness is not that great [Re: xFrockx]
#15760249 - 02/04/12 12:25 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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Having the correct amount of chemicals in your brain creates happiness.
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"It is the "Devil" who caused women to show their legs, to titillate men - the same kind of legs,
now socially acceptable to gaze upon, which are revealed by young nuns as they walk about
in their shortened habits. What a delightful step in the right (or left) direction! Is it possible
we will soon see "topless" nuns sensually throwing their bodies about to the "Missa Solemnis
Rock"? Satan smiles and says he would like that fine - many nuns are very pretty girls with nice legs." -La Vey- Aka The Black Pope
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xFrockx
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Re: Happiness is not that great [Re: King Klick]
#15760266 - 02/04/12 12:28 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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Reductionism is not the answer to the human condition.
What puts those chemicals there? And further, which combination are you referring to as happiness? It the same as Paul and Joe's?
What is happiness?
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4896744
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Re: Happiness is not that great [Re: xFrockx] 2
#15760272 - 02/04/12 12:28 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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It feels good, and feeling good is my biggest priority in life. Why does being happy mean you can't be aware of unhappiness in the world?
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Re: Happiness is not that great [Re: xFrockx]
#15760277 - 02/04/12 12:29 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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Quote:
xFrockx said:
Reductionism is not the answer to the human condition.
why?
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circastes
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Re: Happiness is not that great [Re: King Klick] 1
#15760282 - 02/04/12 12:29 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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Happiness is mission complete; all accomplishments met and being met simultaneously. It is not just a little stirring of emotions. It is a state of mind.
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xFrockx
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Re: Happiness is not that great [Re: 4896744]
#15760289 - 02/04/12 12:30 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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"It feels good, and feeling good is my biggest priority in life."
Why? Is a life that is spent feeling good a life well-lived? How have you determined this to be the case?
"Why does being happy mean you can't be aware of unhappiness in the world?"
This is a stretch from what I said. Are you happy that there is unhappiness in the world?
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Re: Happiness is not that great [Re: xFrockx]
#15760292 - 02/04/12 12:31 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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Quote:
xFrockx said:
Happiness can seem like a good thing, even an ideal. Why is this? What's so great about feeling happy? What is feeling happy, exactly? Is it having your needs met? Is it being safe? Is it doing what you want to? In all of these cases, it seems selfish to be happy. Happiness instills blindness to that which does not fit into the picture that the happiness requires. Failure, loss of personal safety, hunger, starvation, and death and the suffering of others.
So what's so great about being "happy"?
Nice warm chemical bath.  I like happy.
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― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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Re: Happiness is not that great [Re: xFrockx]
#15760293 - 02/04/12 12:31 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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Quote:
xFrockx said:
Reductionism is not the answer to the human condition.
What puts those chemicals there? And further, which combination are you referring to as happiness? It the same as Paul and Joe's?
What is happiness?
Thats debatable
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"It is the "Devil" who caused women to show their legs, to titillate men - the same kind of legs,
now socially acceptable to gaze upon, which are revealed by young nuns as they walk about
in their shortened habits. What a delightful step in the right (or left) direction! Is it possible
we will soon see "topless" nuns sensually throwing their bodies about to the "Missa Solemnis
Rock"? Satan smiles and says he would like that fine - many nuns are very pretty girls with nice legs." -La Vey- Aka The Black Pope
-Selling Old Comis http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16286470
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Re: Happiness is not that great [Re: circastes]
#15760295 - 02/04/12 12:31 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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How do you know that?
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xFrockx
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Re: Happiness is not that great [Re: King Klick]
#15760299 - 02/04/12 12:32 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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Is this your response? It is debateable? This is a debate forum! Fucking debate it! SHAKA ZULU!
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King Klick
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Re: Happiness is not that great [Re: xFrockx]
#15760306 - 02/04/12 12:34 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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xFrockx said:
Is this your response? It is debateable? This is a debate forum! Fucking debate it! SHAKA ZULU!
Chill man. It's been said that your brain develops certain chemicals like serotonin and dopamine that makes your brain happier. Thats all i need to know to believe chemicals makes us.
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"It is the "Devil" who caused women to show their legs, to titillate men - the same kind of legs,
now socially acceptable to gaze upon, which are revealed by young nuns as they walk about
in their shortened habits. What a delightful step in the right (or left) direction! Is it possible
we will soon see "topless" nuns sensually throwing their bodies about to the "Missa Solemnis
Rock"? Satan smiles and says he would like that fine - many nuns are very pretty girls with nice legs." -La Vey- Aka The Black Pope
-Selling Old Comis http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16286470
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Re: Happiness is not that great [Re: King Klick]
#15760329 - 02/04/12 12:39 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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They make the brain happier?
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King Klick
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Re: Happiness is not that great [Re: xFrockx]
#15760347 - 02/04/12 12:43 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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I guess. My beliefs are ill supported like every religion i guess. I have no evidence of these for i'm not a neuron-scientist.
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"It is the "Devil" who caused women to show their legs, to titillate men - the same kind of legs,
now socially acceptable to gaze upon, which are revealed by young nuns as they walk about
in their shortened habits. What a delightful step in the right (or left) direction! Is it possible
we will soon see "topless" nuns sensually throwing their bodies about to the "Missa Solemnis
Rock"? Satan smiles and says he would like that fine - many nuns are very pretty girls with nice legs." -La Vey- Aka The Black Pope
-Selling Old Comis http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16286470
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Re: Happiness is not that great [Re: King Klick]
#15760351 - 02/04/12 12:44 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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The world needs dishwashers too.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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King Klick
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Re: Happiness is not that great [Re: Icelander]
#15760413 - 02/04/12 12:58 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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I'm in college to be an automotive technician. In layman's terms...a mechanic.
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"It is the "Devil" who caused women to show their legs, to titillate men - the same kind of legs,
now socially acceptable to gaze upon, which are revealed by young nuns as they walk about
in their shortened habits. What a delightful step in the right (or left) direction! Is it possible
we will soon see "topless" nuns sensually throwing their bodies about to the "Missa Solemnis
Rock"? Satan smiles and says he would like that fine - many nuns are very pretty girls with nice legs." -La Vey- Aka The Black Pope
-Selling Old Comis http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16286470
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Re: Happiness is not that great [Re: xFrockx] 2
#15760421 - 02/04/12 01:00 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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Quote:
xFrockx said:
So what's so great about being "happy"?
The apparent absence of suffering.
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4896744
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Re: Happiness is not that great [Re: xFrockx]
#15760477 - 02/04/12 01:14 PM (3 months, 22 days ago) |
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Why? Is a life that is spent feeling good a life well-lived? How have you determined this to be the case?
It's "well-lived" by my standards. View it from whichever arbitrary angle you choose. What do you mean how have I determined this to be? It seems like you're trying to imply the existence of some objective standard or criteria for a life being well-lived. We are just a bunch of apes that find ourselves having an experience called life as we try to keep ourselves emotionally satisfied until we die.
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Re: Happiness is not that great [Re: 4896744] 1
#15761307 - 02/04/12 04:36 PM (3 months, 22 days ago) |
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Happiness is not that great
This is such a ridiculous statement. Yes, authentic happiness IS that great, relative to all other possible emotions. It's the greatest feeling a human can have in the narrow spectrum of human emotions. It's why smoking weed is so great. Do you have an alternative that is greater??
Edited by tempusvita (02/04/12 04:36 PM)
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Re: Happiness is not that great [Re: tempusvita]
#15761474 - 02/04/12 05:13 PM (3 months, 22 days ago) |
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---In all of these cases, it seems selfish to be happy.
I think it'd be quite a bit more selfish to disturb others with your unhappiness, don't you?
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