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 EndTyranny
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 Re: Does a candidate's religion matter? Romney's? (should it?) [Re: zappaisgod]
#15763194 - 02/05/12 04:10 AM (3 months, 22 days ago) |
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There is nothing unconstitutional about the Patriot Act. Kokesh is an ignorant asshole.
Zappaisgod why is every single thing you say horribly wrong? you are the most misinformed person I have ever met. You attack everyone from your horribly ignorant point of view. You have been proven to not understand shit about the fed all along trashing Paul supporters who are against it. Now it's proven you know NOTHING about the constitution while trashing Adam Kokesh for supporting it! Congrats, you are the most ignorant hater I have ever came across!
http://www.scn.org/ccapa/pa-vs-const.html
Lets pretend we are light bulbs! The dimmer bulbs would naturally be ignored more... o how I wish we were light bulbs.
Edited by EndTyranny (02/05/12 04:19 AM)
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 zappaisgod
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Re: Does a candidate's religion matter? Romney's? (should it?) [Re: txlibertarian]
#15763474 - 02/05/12 07:29 AM (3 months, 22 days ago) |
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txlibertarian said:
Of course. His religious affiliation explains why he wants to create a federal amendment on the subject of marriage - something the government really has no business regulating. Federal amendments are great when they suit your religious agenda to overrule everyone, aren't they?
I agree that the federal government has no business regulating marriage except to oversee civil disputes regarding the dissolution of the contract. Nor is marriage a religious construct. It is a contract between two people. Even atheists get married.
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zappaisgod
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Re: Does a candidate's religion matter? Romney's? (should it?) [Re: EndTyranny]
#15763480 - 02/05/12 07:31 AM (3 months, 22 days ago) |
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EndTyranny said:
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There is nothing unconstitutional about the Patriot Act. Kokesh is an ignorant asshole.
Zappaisgod why is every single thing you say horribly wrong? you are the most misinformed person I have ever met. You attack everyone from your horribly ignorant point of view. You have been proven to not understand shit about the fed all along trashing Paul supporters who are against it. Now it's proven you know NOTHING about the constitution while trashing Adam Kokesh for supporting it! Congrats, you are the most ignorant hater I have ever came across!
http://www.scn.org/ccapa/pa-vs-const.html
Lets pretend we are light bulbs! The dimmer bulbs would naturally be ignored more... o how I wish we were light bulbs.
And here we have a sitting SCOTUS justice flaming little old me.
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Re: Does a candidate's religion matter? Romney's? (should it?) [Re: zappaisgod]
#15763502 - 02/05/12 07:40 AM (3 months, 22 days ago) |
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YES it should matter.
Would you ever vote for a muslim??
Well I sure as hell would not,
lets keep these crazies out of
the office before we DO get a muslim.
NOT A GOOD IDEA PEOPLE!!!
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zappaisgod
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Re: Does a candidate's religion matter? Romney's? (should it?) [Re: cinic]
#15763540 - 02/05/12 07:54 AM (3 months, 22 days ago) |
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What fresh puppet is this?
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 DieCommie
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Re: Does a candidate's religion matter? Romney's? (should it?) [Re: Not Quite Social]
#15764532 - 02/05/12 01:11 PM (3 months, 21 days ago) |
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Not Quite Social said:
Anyway, if this is not too off topic, you said, "You mean like which god do I like? None of them really." To which I wonder, really? I'm not proselytizing, believe me--I'm agnostic (ha, ha), but I can find nothing with which to fault Jesus, and, in fact, I see a lot of good in his strict followers--if there were such a desciple-politician, I'd vote for him easily over all others (unless the Buddha were running, then I'd have to be more thoughtful about it). Not you, eh? Religion is a negative? Reminds me of Christopher Hitchens.
"God is not great"? Yea, I agree with that. Im not a fan of Jesus or his followers either. The less of a follower of Jesus or other false prophets the politician is the better.
I had no idea what kind of faith the person I will probably vote for is. I looked it up its non-practicing lutheren. Meh, could be better but could be worse.
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Re: Does a candidate's religion matter? Romney's? (should it?) [Re: DieCommie]
#15764862 - 02/05/12 02:46 PM (3 months, 21 days ago) |
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Well, this is a little off topic, but since it's your thread ... Okay.
You said,
"I suspect your view of Jesus is derived more from propoganda than from an actual reading of the bible."
I think you and I are going to have a very similar problem with The Bible to that which we had with The Consititution. I object to your literal interpretation. Neither document is merely fixed words on paper. Lots of things matter including current application, historical/original context, interpretations and misinterpretations, traditions, and so on. Nobody is a first century Middle Easterner here, so nobody can understand and abide by the Bible as if he were; on that basis alone, no one can possibly lead life literally according to every specific part of The Bible--those societies do not exist anymore. So, taking very specific passages out of the original context is an easy way to criticize the Bible, but not a credible way of actually understanding how people were informed by it then or how people are informed by it now, or of representing the value of Christianity as a broader whole. I won't hope you'll appreciate my argument because I am convinced if you (or anyone) do not understand these things implicitly, if I have to spell it out, then it's too much trouble for me to try to disabuse you; therefore, you will continue to ironically and incorrectly find fault with my comprehension--Oh well.
Besides all that, why do you suppose so many millions of people go to church on Sundays and worship the vicious, nasty horrible god you described? Have you ever had a conversation with a Jesuit priest, for example, and walked away from him thinking, what a deluded, unstudied moron? Do you think rational, moral people cannot be or would never choose to be Christians?
Again, this was off topic, but you opened it up in this direction, and I was willing to discuss this so I hope it's not a problem. I'm making an effort to be more positive & constructive with my comments, to make the GOD & MODERATOR ZEUSS happy.
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Re: Does a candidate's religion matter? Romney's? (should it?) [Re: Not Quite Social] 1
#15764984 - 02/05/12 03:17 PM (3 months, 21 days ago) |
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> why do you suppose so many millions of people go to church on Sundays and worship the vicious, nasty horrible god you described?
Because they are gullible idiots. Same reason so many people voted for Obama... or Bush for that matter.
> Have you ever had a conversation with a Jesuit priest, for example, and walked away from him thinking, what a deluded, unstudied moron?
Yep. Actually, no... he was very bright and well studied, but he was still an idiot for basing his beliefs on some 2000+ year old fictional literature.
> Do you think rational, moral people cannot be or would never choose to be Christians?
Obviously they can. However, I would call their belief irrational. I also call atheists irrational. Truth is, we simply don't know. Nobody has proven true or false. The only sensible position is to remain neutral (agnostic)... I'll believe it when I see it, but until then, given a lack of evidence, I will side with the most likely doesn't exist.
> Again, this was off topic,
Not as off topic as you think... religion is a big part of politics, unfortunately.
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Re: Does a candidate's religion matter? Romney's? (should it?) [Re: Seuss]
#15767169 - 02/06/12 03:11 AM (3 months, 21 days ago) |
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In the GOP Nevada primary on saturday, Romney came in first with 50% and Paul in third with 19%. Romney got 88% of the Mormon vote. This shows that a minor religion will side with a candidate based almost entirely off religion. That scares me. Paul got 54% of the non-religious vote. As a supporter I am very proud of that figure. I find non-religious people tend to use reason and fact when making their decisions.
In general I believe candidates often use religion to draw in votes. Some are sincere some are not. To answer the thread, I don't think its their religion that should matter as much as how religious they are.
I'd absolutely love to see a politician running ahead in the polls come out and say "God doesn't exist" and see how far he plummets because too many stupid people vote.
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