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My mood fluctuates quite a bit, with it probably leaning towards happy most of the time. I often wonder if I am manic depressive, as I am usually pretty damn happy and talkative or extremely depressed. To get to the point, when I am in a depressed mood, suicide is almost all I think about. I constantly think about just peacefully ending the unpleasant feeling I currently feel, especially with the knowledge of how easily and painlessly I could do it. Do any of you share this almost obsessive pondering of suicide?
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: 4896744]
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whats your diet? do you exorcise?
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: 4896744]
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When I'm depressed,
I think to myself "I'm glad I managed to cheer myself up a bit"
as for manic depression, are you sure you're not just depressed, but acting happy around others ? I've done that before.
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#15756563 - 02/03/12 02:57 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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I constantly think about just peacefully ending the unpleasant feeling I currently feel
I have a mandatory three-day waiting period on any serious suicide plans. Works like a charm. Why don't you add it to your operating manual. I'd miss you around here if you were gone.
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: 4896744]
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My mood fluctuates quite a bit, with it probably leaning towards happy most of the time. I often wonder if I am manic depressive, as I am usually pretty damn happy and talkative or extremely depressed. To get to the point, when I am in a depressed mood, suicide is almost all I think about. I constantly think about just peacefully ending the unpleasant feeling I currently feel, especially with the knowledge of how easily and painlessly I could do it. Do any of you share this almost obsessive pondering of suicide?
Not me! That's a sin.  
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: Diploid] 1
#15756618 - 02/03/12 03:09 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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I constantly think about just peacefully ending the unpleasant feeling I currently feel
I have a mandatory three-day waiting period on any serious suicide plans. Works like a charm. Why don't you add it to your operating manual. I'd miss you around here if you were gone.
Wuss 
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do you exorcise?
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: Icelander]
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Spartans were now known for writing - especially not in English.
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: Icelander]
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do you exorcise?
Like that '50s TV family sitcom 'Leave it to Cleavage'.
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: Diploid]
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whats your diet? do you exorcise?
I lift weights 4-5 times a week, and i also do cardio 3-4 of those days. My diet is high protein and fat, and relatively low carb with a variety of foods.
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I constantly think about just peacefully ending the unpleasant feeling I currently feel
I have a mandatory three-day waiting period on any serious suicide plans. Works like a charm. Why don't you add it to your operating manual. I'd miss you around here if you were gone.
I don't see the point really. If i do kill myself, i will no longer be capable of caring, and it's unavoidable to die at some point. My previous preferences will be irrelevant for me. I wouldn't be too worried though, as when i am seriously considering killing myself i start to think of all of the aspects and one thought is always of my mom and sister's potential reaction to my self-induced death. The feeling that this thought gives me is one of the most unpleasant thoughts that i have ever felt, and it quickly makes me decide not to go through with it to stop the bad feeling that was encountered.
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: 4896744]
#15756823 - 02/03/12 03:58 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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It is still possible that my logical side may win one day in the fact that my family's reaction won't matter to me when I'm dead.
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: 4896744] 1
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We have a saying here in England, "chin up lad" 
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: 4896744]
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It is still possible that my logical side may win one day in the fact that my family's reaction won't matter to me when I'm dead.
Don't do it. Do something radical, but don't kill yourself please
How old are you?
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: 4896744]
#15756877 - 02/03/12 04:13 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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Feelings,emotions, and wild what if situations are a part of the thought process of any human. My mind has contemplated 1000's of unreal scenarios. Some i wanted to act out and some are just what if.Its ok to have these thoughts, just understand that when your dead you cant feel anything anymore good or bad.
There's always another day and our lifespan is so short. why speed it up?
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: 4896744] 1
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as when i am seriously considering killing myself i start to think of all of the aspects and one thought is always of my mom and sister's potential reaction to my self-induced death. The feeling that this thought gives me is one of the most unpleasant thoughts that i have ever felt, and it quickly makes me decide not to go through with it to stop the bad feeling that was encountered.
You've turned out to be a piss poor sociopath. 
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It is still possible that my logical side may win one day in the fact that my family's reaction won't matter to me when I'm dead.
Don't do it. Do something radical, but don't kill yourself please
How old are you?
  Somebodies got a bad case of death anxiety. 
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: Icelander]
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It is still possible that my logical side may win one day in the fact that my family's reaction won't matter to me when I'm dead.
Don't do it. Do something radical, but don't kill yourself please
How old are you?
Somebodies got a bad case of death anxiety.
Not me, I think suicide is a bad idea. I think dying is a bad idea if there is any hope of a good life somehow, even if radical =/. I feel bad for his mother in sister as well. Call me what you want, make fun of me, whatever.
I know your trying to troll me, but its kind of stupid and immature. Especially given what you said here http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/8787958
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If you think suicide is a bad idea you got death anxiety. If one thinks it might or might not be a bad idea depending on the circumstances they have less death anxiety. See how that works?
I think it's plain that you know very little about what motivates you.
I easily admit I have it and you call me stupid and immature.
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Death anxiety is the morbid, abnormal or persistent fear of death or dying
I don't have that. I don't even think death is a bad idea in ALL circumstances as I said above. I don't think death is a bad idea, as you say above, absoultely. I think its a bad idea if your life has no possibility of being worth living whatsoever. To have death anxiety is to think and believe death as being bad in all circumstances and I certainly don't think that. I think death could be a blessing, a cause for joy, not anxiety, in some circumstances. Not anxiety to a lesser extent, as you say.
So no, to think death is bad, I don't think you have to have death anxiety. However even if that were the case. Why did you try and make fun of me? Do you think its humorous to be terrified of death? And even if you did, why post in this thread about it? Why not have restraint, and just do something else? Why chime in just for the negativity? You will either continue trolling in reply to this and I will ignore you or we can devlope understanding..
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I think it's plain that you know very little about yourself or what motivates you.
Christ, you and that other guy and these little comments. You both sound so unhappy. So eager to express negativity.
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I easily admit I have it and you call me stupid and immature.
This guy is talking about killing himself. A human being. I post some empathetic remarks and you try and make fun of me for something you imagine I have that I don't, yet something you yourself have made a thread about. Thats stupid and immature.
Why do you have it though? In the other thread you say its a mystery, and I believe to my core that death is the absolute end.
I should have it and you should not, not the other way around.
I have my own philosophy for conquering it though.
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You both sound so unhappy. So eager to express negativity.
Which one of the three PMed anoth member with insults? Certainly seems like an expression of negativity. Anyone care to guess?
Choose one:
Icey
Tempussy
The Other Guy
Now people, guess which one wanted to visit the other for a physical confrontation? That twisted mind must certainly be unhappy.
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I gotta admit I giggled at tempussy lol
BTW you say I have a twisted mind for insulting you and that I am unhappy
Yet you just insulted me IN THE SAME POST (tempussy, twisted mind, unhappy) so I guess we are both guilty old man
edit: Are insults allowed on this forum or not?
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Death anxiety is the morbid, abnormal or persistent fear of death or dying
I don't have that. I don't even think death is a bad idea in ALL circumstances as I said above. I don't think death is a bad idea, as you say above, absoultely. I think its a bad idea if your life has no possibility of being worth living whatsoever. To have death anxiety is to think and believe death as being bad in all circumstances and I certainly don't think that. I think death could be a blessing, a cause for joy, not anxiety, in some circumstances. Not anxiety to a lesser extent, as you say.
So no, to think death is bad, I don't think you have to have death anxiety. However even if that were the case. Why did you try and make fun of me? Do you think its humorous to be terrified of death? And even if you did, why post in this thread about it? Why not have restraint, and just do something else? Why chime in just for the negativity? You will either continue trolling in reply to this and I will ignore you or we can devlope understanding..
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I think it's plain that you know very little about yourself or what motivates you.
Christ, you and that other guy and these little comments. You both sound so unhappy. So eager to express negativity.
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I easily admit I have it and you call me stupid and immature.
This guy is talking about killing himself. A human being. I post some empathetic remarks and you try and make fun of me for something you imagine I have that I don't, yet something you yourself have made a thread about. Thats stupid and immature.
Why do you have it though? In the other thread you say its a mystery, and I believe to my core that death is the absolute end.
I should have it and you should not, not the other way around.
I have my own philosophy for conquering it though.
Where did you get that unrealistic definition of death anxiety?
And why are you so whiney about what other people say here? Is everyone supposed to kiss your ass round here? Why are you so insecure that you care what others say or do here? Why are you constantly complaining about other people here and their responses to you? This is so sad. Why are you constantly judging people who don't agree with you or think you are immature, ignorant and silly? Why all the personalisms and evaluations of others who don't agree with you?
Why not just debate the issues and ignore anyone you think is fucking with you? Why not? Why? Tell us. Then maybe we can come to that understanding you claim you want.
BTW if you have a philosophy for conquering death anxiety that means you have it. This is the shit that makes me 
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: Icelander]
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Where did you get that unrealistic definition of death anxiety?
The Denial of Death by E. Becker.
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And why are you so whiney about what other people say here? Is everyone supposed to kiss your ass round here? Why are you so insecure that you care what others say or do here? Why are you constantly complaining about other people here and their responses to you? This is so sad. Why are you constantly judging people who don't agree with you or think you are immature, ignorant and silly? Why all the personalisms and evaluations of others who don't agree with you?
Why not just debate the issues and ignore anyone you think is fucking with you? Why not? Why? Tell us. Then maybe we can come to that understanding you claim you want.
I think your brain is damaged, or you have some issues. Go back to page one and read our conversation. It started with you making fun of me for pleading with someone not to kill themselves. I mean are you insane? Just go back and read everything over. And then I responded and you said.
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I think it's plain that you know very little about yourself or what motivates you.
I said it was stupid and immature for you to make fun of me for telling someone not to kill themselves.
Yet, back to the post this is replying to, your saying that it's ME who has the issue. What I am getting from your post is that I should ignore you when you post stupid shit and just focus on the issues? Well why don't you ignore me calling you out on your stupid shit? You say I am whiney, but in the same manner, the entire post you just posted is a long winded whine in the same exact manner you accuse me of. What a retarded post. I am floored.
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What the fuck? No. It means in the absence of my philosophy I have it, with my philosophy I don't.
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Then you are not entirely evil.
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Then you are not entirely evil.
I was reading your other threads, we are in agreement in everything except correcting peoples grammar and spelling 
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What I am getting from your post is that I should ignore you when you post stupid shit and just focus on the issues? Well why don't you ignore me calling you out on your stupid shit?
That's exactly right. I asked you why. So how about an answer? Why the name calling if you are all about love? Why? Tell us? You are making like you're all evolved and shit. I'm not, I'm not evolved at all so I'm supposed to act like this. And I was laughing at the silly shit you claimed and not at you. You made this all personal. Considering the fact that I'm such a bad guy it's very interesting that you are the one who has violated forum rules and guidelines today. Purty weird huh?
So stop whining and stfu about other people and their motives. If I want to laugh at what you say that's none of your business really. If I want to talk about you personally that's against forum rules. Why not take the time to read them and follow them.
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That's exactly right. I asked you why. So how about an answer? Why the name calling if you are all about love? Why? Tell us? You are making like you're all evolved and shit. I'm not, I'm not evolved at all so I'm supposed to act like this. And I was laughing at the silly shit you claimed and not at you. You made this all personal. Considering the fact that I'm such a bad guy it's very interesting that you are the one who has violated forum rules and guidelines today. Purty weird huh?
Am I supposed to ignore this stupid shit?
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You could address the questions.
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Well why don't you ignore me calling you out on your stupid shit?
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Since I asked the questions first you answer mine and I'll answer yours. 
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: Icelander] 2
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Wow, you guys need to get OUT OF THE HOUSE, MAN! Please, for the love of Gandhi, both of you smoke a joint IMMEDIATELY and go climb a tree, or have sex, or or have sex while in a tree, or something. Doesn't have to be with each other.
But lets not rule anything out...
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I hear they only have sex with trees (and watermelons) in Texass.
Now take off cause he's just about to answer my questions. 
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: Icelander]
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I hear they only have sex with trees (and watermelons) in Texass.
Now take off cause he's just about to answer my questions.
Hey, fresh watermelon>pussy. God, I love Texas.
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: Anneji]
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I'm almost old enough.
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: Icelander]
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as when i am seriously considering killing myself i start to think of all of the aspects and one thought is always of my mom and sister's potential reaction to my self-induced death. The feeling that this thought gives me is one of the most unpleasant thoughts that i have ever felt, and it quickly makes me decide not to go through with it to stop the bad feeling that was encountered.
You've turned out to be a piss poor sociopath.
 I've always reminded people that I am an empathetic person by nature. I just realized how relative it all was at a younger age than most, so I hadn't already been morally programmed to the extent of many imo. I think that I just still retain the ability to feel guilt for things that are more instinctual such as matters relating to close family.
I have never been one to bully others or cause confrontation/negative feelings. It naturally makes me uncomfortable. I only share my thoughts that could be labeled as psychopathic with my very close friends and you guys. You all make life a little easier. 
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: 4896744]
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Well I like you just a tiny bit too dude.
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: tribesman]
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We have a saying here in England, "chin up lad"
That seems like the equivalent of saying "just be happy". It is obviously not that easy, or everyone would be happy all of the time.
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: 4896744]
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"Don't worry, feel crappy"
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: 4896744]
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You seem to care an awful lot about how your body feels. You mentioned in the other thread that feeling good is what you value. You even say you want your death to be as unpleasant to feel. Is this all you care about?
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: xFrockx]
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What kind of nut doesn't care about how their body feels?
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: xFrockx]
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You seem to care an awful lot about how your body feels. You mentioned in the other thread that feeling good is what you value. You even say you want your death to be as unpleasant to feel. Is this all you care about?
Obviously, what else can you care about besides how you feel? Our very experience is nothing more than feelings.
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: 4896744]
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We have a saying here in England, "chin up lad"
That seems like the equivalent of saying "just be happy". It is obviously not that easy, or everyone would be happy all of the time.
Sorry if it sounded so condescending, it's usually just offered as a show of support, and I take it to mean something more like "you'll get through this".
I'm not in any position to preach to you, not to take your own life, nor can anyone make that decision for you. I can't help but empathize with you and your suffering, and I just wanted to show my support without trying to pressure you either way.
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: tribesman]
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That seems like the equivalent of saying "just be happy". It is obviously not that easy, or everyone would be happy all of the time.
It's possible to just make yourself happy. If not, something is holding you back, like conflicting beliefs, and societal supression.
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I think it is possible to mask your unhappiness from others, but a person can't just will themselves happy.
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: tribesman]
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Not in every situation. Like I don't think someone in a prisoner cell can really make himself happy. But for the typical citizen of the West?
And not just "will" youself happy through the same situation, but actually changing your situation and enviroment.
If you throw everything you were, everything you've done, and start fresh, with some acceptance for somethings and some stubborness for others, it can happen. Doing things in a radical new way, deliberately denying negative situations and pursing happy ones, ignoreing the judgement of others. I think its easier now than it has been for the last thousand of years.
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No person has any real clue what some other person can or cannot do emotionally.
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: tempusvita] 1
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Are you saying that as the world and our lives have got more intricate and complicated, finding inner peace has got easier ?
I doubt it, and there is a gulf between ~
"It's possible to just make yourself happy."
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"If you throw everything you were, everything you've done, and start fresh, with some acceptance for somethings and some stubborness for others, it can happen. Doing things in a radical new way, deliberately denying negative situations and pursing happy ones, ignoreing the judgement of others"
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: Icelander]
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No person has any real clue what some other person can or cannot do emotionally.
I don't even know what I am capable of emotionally, but I have exceeded my own estimates in recent years.
I haven't had to do it alone though, I've had the support of close friends and family. It is hard for me to talk about my depression with those around me, and there is always an assertion that they won't understand. That's where some of the denizens of the Shroomery have been vital to my dealing with the dark. 
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: tribesman]
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Are you saying that as the world and our lives have got more intricate and complicated, finding inner peace has got easier ?
Oh please, 99% of the population from two centuries ago to the begining of our species suffered back breaking work and utter poverty from dawn till dusk, and most of the population of this planet still does. I take it you haven't travel to a third world country before or you would not have said that. Intricacy and complication would gladly be taken over what most people suffer through daily.
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"It's possible to just make yourself happy."
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"If you throw everything you were, everything you've done, and start fresh, with some acceptance for somethings and some stubborness for others, it can happen. Doing things in a radical new way, deliberately denying negative situations and pursing happy ones, ignoreing the judgement of others"
Yeah, the gulf is action. I assumed it would have been obvious thats was something necessary.
So yeah, it is probably impossible to just make yourself happy without action. Anyone who isn't willing to take action will be chained to depression.
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People will always find new and innovative ways to suffer. 
Here is a wiki page showing the suicide stats globally,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
I can't see a correlation between third world countries and a high suicide rate. In all honesty, I think that when people are faced with the struggle to survive everyday they may have a higher appreciation for life.
Modern living makes somethings easier,
but it also brings a shit load of stress and aggravation to the table.
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Are you saying that as the world and our lives have got more intricate and complicated, finding inner peace has got easier ?
Oh please, 99% of the population from two centuries ago to the begining of our species suffered back breaking work and utter poverty from dawn till dusk, and most of the population of this planet still does. I take it you haven't travel to a third world country before or you would not have said that. Intricacy and complication would gladly be taken over what most people suffer through daily.
You make a lot of statements about what others would or should do. Why is that?
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Yeah, the gulf is action. I assumed it would have been obvious thats was something necessary.
So yeah, it is probably impossible to just make yourself happy without action. Anyone who isn't willing to take action will be chained to depression.
Action would require that a person feel in control,
without that there is just a desire to act.
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: tribesman]
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People will always find new and innovative ways to suffer.
Here is a wiki page showing the suicide stats globally,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_suicide_rate
I can't see a correlation between third world countries and a high suicide rate. In all honesty, I think that when people are faced with the struggle to survive everyday they may have a higher appreciation for life.
Well suicide rates are not a good measure, there is a lot of other factors other thatn plain unhappiness that goes into suicide. In cultures like Russia, suicide probably seems acceptable at a different threshold than a country like Iraq, where Islam is prevalent and suicide is a huge sin in Islam (unless your doing it to kill the infadel apparently). And I think its fairly obvious for Iraqi is on the whole a lot worse than Russian.
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Modern living makes somethings easier,
but it also brings a shit load of stress and aggravation to the table.
I have to say, you have got to be delusional if you really think life in a first world country is on average more depressing than life in a third world country.
I mean even a typical soul sucking, patty flipping job (that pays 8$ an hour) in a first would country is a thousand times better than say, sulphur mining (that pays a 10$ a day)?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12301421
Would you really prefer to live in a slum in Argentina or Zimbabwe where brutality and poverty is an everyday occurance than a typical repressed suburb? Like what point are you trying to make?
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Action would require that a person feel in control,
without that there is just a desire to act.
The typical citizen of the West has an effective degree of control over their lives.
Have you ever been to a third world country?
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I watched a series on tv called "Slumming it.", it took a British architect/designer to the slums of Mumbai.
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/programs/kevinmccloudslummingit.htm
You might want to have a look, it painted a completely different picture.
In countries where suicide is considered a huge sin, wouldn't the denial of that form of release only add to the suffering ?
Asking if I would prefer to live in London or Sierra Leone is irrelevant as I am already tainted by my experience of first world abundance.
If you've never had it, you won't miss it.
Take a look at any articles you can find on "Slumming It", it was an interesting take on the lives of those poor unfortunate third worlders.
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: tribesman]
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I watched a series on tv called "Slumming it.", it took a British architect/designer to the slums of Mumbai.
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/programs/kevinmccloudslummingit.htm
You might want to have a look, it painted a completely different picture.
In countries where suicide is considered a huge sin, wouldn't the denial of that form of release only add to the suffering ?
Asking if I would prefer to live in London or Sierra Leone is irrelevant as I am already tainted by my experience of first world abundance.
If you've never had it, you won't miss it.
Take a look at any articles you can find on "Slumming It", it was an interesting take on the lives of those poor unfortunate third worlders.
I will check it out, but I have to say I am doubtful. I have been to Mexico, and Lebanon, and have been to slums and seen starving kids.
Its horrible, I mean its really really horrible. Thinking about the disfigured children I saw brings tears to my eyes.
People in the first world have problems, no doubt, but the experience left me with the impression people suffering in the West lack autocracy over their lives, when people in other places would do anything for a slimmer of the oppurtunities avalable to us.
But I will check it out.
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Third world populations have something obvious to aspire to maybe. Alternately those from developed nations are on the top rung already, and so when faced with adversity and hardship, the means of escape is not so obvious.
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: tribesman]
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That seems like the equivalent of saying "just be happy". It is obviously not that easy, or everyone would be happy all of the time.
It's possible to just make yourself happy. If not, something is holding you back, like conflicting beliefs, and societal supression.
So are you happy all of the time? You don't have bad moods?
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: 4896744]
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That seems like the equivalent of saying "just be happy". It is obviously not that easy, or everyone would be happy all of the time.
It's possible to just make yourself happy. If not, something is holding you back, like conflicting beliefs, and societal supression.
So are you happy all of the time? You don't have bad moods?
No, I didn't mean for it to sound like that. Anyone who tells you they don't have bad moods occasionally is lying. I meant like, happiness is my default emotion. It's cause I made it that way.
Friends, freedom and an examined life = the keys to happiness
I screened and made friends, started a (now successful) business, and read a lot of philosophy. I just turned 20 btw
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: 4896744]
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You seem to care an awful lot about how your body feels. You mentioned in the other thread that feeling good is what you value. You even say you want your death to be as unpleasant to feel. Is this all you care about?
Obviously, what else can you care about besides how you feel? Our very experience is nothing more than feelings.
You can care about lots of things other than your feelings. Caring itself, is a feeling. Having feelings about feelings is not the whole world, man.
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: xFrockx]
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You seem to care an awful lot about how your body feels. You mentioned in the other thread that feeling good is what you value. You even say you want your death to be as unpleasant to feel. Is this all you care about?
Obviously, what else can you care about besides how you feel? Our very experience is nothing more than feelings.
You can care about lots of things other than your feelings. Caring itself, is a feeling. Having feelings about feelings is not the whole world, man.
What do you experience that isn't a feeling? What drives your decisions other than feelings? What do you mean by "feelings about feelings is not the whole world"? I obviously recognize that other things in the universe are present besides my feelings, but my whole identity is a mass of feelings.
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Re: When I am Depressed [Re: 4896744]
#15764813 - 02/05/12 02:34 PM (3 months, 21 days ago) |
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"What do you experience that isn't a feeling?"
Is what I see a feeling?
Is what I hear a feeling?
Is the act of reason a feeling?
What is a feeling, exactly?
If you're saying that feelings are everything that we experience, then what is it that these feelings come from? From where do they arise? If we do not experience the thing which makes these feelings happen, then at what point are we divided from it?
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