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When you are uncertain about a course of action and listen to your inner voice and it turns out to be beneficial, that is intuition.
When you are uncertain about a course of action and listen to your inner voice and it turns out to be detrimental, that just means you blocked or misread intuition.
Post hoc games are fun for the whole family!
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Intuition is bringing the unconscious mind(which is collective) into the conscious mind. This takes a fair amount of energy, which is usually spent in ejaculation. More energy = More intuition. Less energy = less intuition. Retaining the semen and directing the energy through the heart center, the world is at your fingertips.
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Intuition is so tricky. If you asked someone 2000 years ago if the world was flat, their Intuition would have told them that it obviously is.
And Intuition is bad in strategy, in war, following it has lead to many defeats.
And yet in certain realms there is nothing more powerful than intuition. Like when your reading people, or if someone is lying to you, or if your trying to figure out what to do with your life.
A partly fallible, partly powerful tool.
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PowerPlants said:
Intuition is bringing the unconscious mind(which is collective) into the conscious mind. This takes a fair amount of energy, which is usually spent in ejaculation. More energy = More intuition. Less energy = less intuition. Retaining the semen and directing the energy through the heart center, the world is at your fingertips.
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Like when your(sic) reading people, or if someone is lying to you
A test was done a few years back featuring a professional poker player, a professional psychic, a seasoned police detective, a psychologist and a computer with specialized software able to read pupil and skin responses.
10 subjects randomly told the truth or lied to the team. The detective did slightly better than chance the rest of the humans did worse. The psychic was the lowest - and the computer/software scored 7 of 10.
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A partly fallible, partly powerful tool.
That makes no sense. Post hoc like I stated.
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Sure it makes sense. In some situations its doomed to failure, in others its really powerful.
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what is beneficial to you may be to my detriment.
in this way, can intuition ever objectively be either beneficial or detrimental?
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Sure it makes sense. In some situations its doomed to failure, in others its really powerful.
That is properly called 'guessing'.
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It would be if I didn't define a general outline for when its applicable and when it isn't.
I said generally don't use it in war or science, and use it in the emotional intelligence realm. I can only speak for my self.
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All 30 of Ted Bundy's female victims used their intuition when assessing his character. Conclusion is obvious.
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And Steve Jobs used his intuition to father Apple Computer. Conclusion is obvious.
And I said POWERFUL, not always correct.
And there there are all the studies in Malcolm Gladwell's "Blink". I think intuition requires a good understanding in whatever subject one will use it before its use. It is fallible, but I think its better than rational thought in SOME cases, especially when one has a lot of competence before hand.
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I think intuition requires a good understanding in whatever subject one will use it before its use.
That is called 'education' and 'experience'. No need to add a word so vague that no two people can even agree on its meaning.
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how do you decide to fold or up the ante when in a game?
that is intuition.
all your logic and your physical disposition taken together make the decision, that is intuition.
i.e. more than one single rule in the mix with a grand summation feeling - that is intuition.
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Observation, history, math.
At least you have added yet another definition to further muddy the waters.
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estimate the %'ge of history math and observation.
estimate the accuracy of those data-sets
you are now in the sweetspot of : I N T U I T I O N
(fade up with the twilight zone music already)
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My intuition is telling me not to involve myself in this thread,
my ego on the other hand made me tell you about it. 
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My intuition is telling me not to involve myself in this thread,:D
my ego on the other hand made me tell you about it.
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Intuition is bringing the unconscious mind(which is collective) into the conscious mind.
Also a cup of butter
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Always go with your gut
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My intuition is telling me not to involve myself in this thread,:D
my ego on the other hand made me tell you about it.
Don't encourage me...him...it...you know what I mean. 
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How do you separate intuition and instinct ?
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Intuition has more letters.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
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 had to ask.
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intuition is developed, instinct is inherited
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How do you know which one is influencing you ?
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Like dowsing?
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I can entertain the idea that intuition and instinct are separate aspects of our nature. I can understand instinct being developed through evolution and intuition as a conscious response to sub-conscious stimulus. This could be something like a slight drop in temperature or air pressure(maybe), even bearly audible sounds being registered at a subliminal level or close to it. I can't see how we would develope our intuition, or discern the inner voice of millions of years experience in survival, from the faint sound of my neighbour in the appartment taking a piss, while I'm watching Family Guy.
American Dad quote “My women’s intuition picked up on this five days ago, and I mistook it for ghosts!” — Francine Smith
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keep looking
it's different for each one of us.
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Intuition is bringing the unconscious mind(which is collective) into the conscious mind. This takes a fair amount of energy, which is usually spent in ejaculation. More energy = More intuition. Less energy = less intuition. Retaining the semen and directing the energy through the heart center, the world is at your fingertips.
I think this is not true at all. The ejaculation part. I agree with the subconcious.
I have no scientific data or a good argument, but my personal opinion is that a healthy sex life is not detrimental for anyone's mind, and actually may help clear the mind.
Everyone is different and some people need more sex just like they need more food, and while you may not need to get off as much as other people to have a more productive mind other peoples bodies are different.
I am not really meaning need as in you will die, but more in a want.
I know your reply will be shrouded in Buddhist scripture about how wanting is the cause of suffering and eliminating it will eliminate your need to ejaculate, but I think it is pretty much proven ejaculating on a regular basis is healthy for the prostate, so I guess I lied when I said no data would be present.
I am not picking on Buddhism, because I live my life as close as I can to his teachings, and Buddhism changed my way of thinking and has made me a much happier person.
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 Re: Intuition [Re: dkmonk]
#15762181 - 02/04/12 08:14 PM (3 months, 22 days ago) |
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See my shadow changing,
Stretching up and over me.
Soften this old armor.
Hoping I can clear the way
By stepping through my shadow,
Coming out the other side.
Step into the shadow.
Forty six and two are just ahead of me.
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redgreenvines said:
keep looking
it's different for each one of us.
Is intuition then more like an emergent property of our instinct ?
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---I think this is not true at all. The ejaculation part. I agree with the subconcious.
Is coo, if everyone refrained there would be no more humans.
Here is an illustration of intuition. All waves are connected at the root to the Ocean, they look separate on the surface but are the same underneath. If the waves are like humans and look outwardly, they will perceive only the surface of separate waves. If they turned attention towards the feeling within, they would sense the unconscious connection that their little wave bodies could not perceive. If they have enough energy, they could draw knowledge from the connected "database" underneath them which includes all of everyones subconscious memories, and they could bring it up into their minds and depending on the amount of energy they have, they would get certain feelings about things, and know certain things depending on the circumference covered based on their personal store of energy. So intuition is not instinct nor observation, it is drawing from the connected "database" of others subconscious and feelings spontaneously turning into thoughts with knowledge not gained by sense observation.
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That would be a cool trick.
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It sure is
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So intuition is the will of the collective ?
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The knowledge of the collective.
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If the waves are like humans...
They are not. Any other failed metaphors you want to use to try to make a non-existent point?
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Hehe, no I do not want to attempt to convince someone who will not allow themselves to be convinced.
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...but I want to tap into this collective. 
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Hehe, no I do not want to attempt to convince someone who will not allow themselves to be convinced.
Convincing takes facts and logic not poetry.
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 "PEOPLE ARE LIKING TO WAVE"
She's a peach.
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Intuition ~ When an idea springs to mind through no conscious process of cogitation.
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