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'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy
#15752323 - 02/02/12 04:14 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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"MUM, I have taken some very bad acid and everything is very odd here."
These were some of the last words that 34-year-old Daniel Buccianti, of Epping, Melbourne, spoke to his mother, Adriana, from the Rainbow Serpent Festival in Beaufort, Victoria
A few hours later, in the early hours of Sunday morning, he was dead. A Victoria Police spokeswoman said Mr Buccianti's death was not believed to be suspicious. "Drugs took my son," Ms Buccianti said. "He rang here that Saturday night at 6.15pm … and said, 'Mum, I have taken some very bad acid.' "I said, 'Daniel don't worry, you need to get yourself to St John hospital really quickly.' " Mr Buccianti asked his mother to pick him up but 40 minutes later he called again to say he was fine. On Sunday morning, police informed Ms Buccianti of her son's death. Rural Ambulance spokeswoman Gabrielle Degenhardt said there was nothing paramedics could do for Mr Buccianti. "Around 1.30am, the man was deceased when we arrived," she said. A 25-year-old also attending the music festival was taken to the Ballarat Base Hospital in a serious condition on Saturday night, after suffering a cardiac arrest in connection with a drug overdose. Ms Buccianti said she held the festival organisers responsible for her son's death. "They should be shut down," she said. "If the police didn’t find any drugs at the festival then they were not looking hard enough." Meanwhile, members of the small but tight-knit Buccianti family gathered at the Epping residence yesterday. Candles burnt in front of Mr Buccianti's photo at a makeshift altar in the kitchen. Just 10 days ago, the family was celebrating his birthday. Ms Buccianti said her son was hard-working, likeable but sometimes cheeky. A single mother, she said Daniel had been her strength. "My life has changed forever," she said. Rainbow Serpent Festival organisers could not be contacted last night.
Neelima Choahan January 31, 2012
http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/everything-is-very-odd-here-daniel-dials-mum-as-music-festival-turns-to-tragedy-20120130-1qpo4.html
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: Simplepowa]
#15752335 - 02/02/12 04:17 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wow, tragic. That festival shouldn't be held accountable for his personal decisions.
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: King Klick]
#15752365 - 02/02/12 04:24 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Agreed, but this is an emotional mother talking, they all blame someone else, way more easy than to accept their son's decision.
And only one isolated incident?
This is probably not "acid" fault, there would have been more incident (if the drug was sold there, multiple people buy it, etc).
Even if the guy bought something elsewhere and brought it up, it would probably affected other people around/his friends, etc...
hummm
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: Simplepowa]
#15752392 - 02/02/12 04:30 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Very odd and very tragic.
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: SlashOZ]
#15752407 - 02/02/12 04:33 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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what's the likeliness of this this happening if LSD was legal and regulated?
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: Simplepowa]
#15752428 - 02/02/12 04:36 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Acid resulting in cardiac arrest drug overdose? What do you think he really took?
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: nottheusual]
#15752433 - 02/02/12 04:38 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Pcp?
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: King Klick]
#15752474 - 02/02/12 04:48 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bromo maybe, pcp wouldnt fit on blotter
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: Eminence]
#15752479 - 02/02/12 04:49 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Did it say he took blotter? Maybe he called it acid but actually took pcp?
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: nottheusual]
#15752482 - 02/02/12 04:50 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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nottheusual said: Acid resulting in cardiac arrest drug overdose? What do you think he really took?
LSD overdose...
let's try that if you're rich.
Erowid:
LD50 (Lethal Dose*) 12,000 ug
* LD50 = dose which will kill 50% of the tested animals.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_dose.shtml
so, if each tab is around 100 ug, 120 tabs... yeah.
No.
Probably polydrug thing, mixed chemical or dehydration maybe. It can be anything at this point.
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: King Klick]
#15752490 - 02/02/12 04:53 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Don't see how someone could confuse acid with pcp though.
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: Eminence]
#15752498 - 02/02/12 04:55 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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It would be pretty hard...unless he took acid first? These are just hypothetical of course.
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: King Klick]
#15752582 - 02/02/12 05:19 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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my guess lies with bromo or he took other drugs.. I really can't see many drugs fitting on a blotter. Now, a tainted sugar cube on the other hand....
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: StatuesCryBleeding]
#15752741 - 02/02/12 06:01 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was at the festival, i think dehydration and over heating would of greatly contributed. It was very hot at Rainbow Serpent as it was held outside of Beaufort, in the desert. With the combination of drugs and alcohol, im not surprised someone died. I was going through 600ml of water an hour and even then i had really bad sun stroke and generally felt shit due to the extreme weather.
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: tizjack]
#15752823 - 02/02/12 06:22 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Is it just me, or if he dosed hard enough to die, he would not be able to have a coherent conversation with his mother, right? And then said he was fine 40 minutes later? He'd be tripping too hard to know what fine is. And I would actually feel sorry for his mother if she wasn't so ignorant as to blame the festival organizers for her sons bad decisions.
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: trophycase]
#15752971 - 02/02/12 06:54 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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There is nothing to this story expect a grieving mother lashing out. I can sympathize with that but there are really no details about what the guy took or what actually killed him...
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: Subconscious]
#15753179 - 02/02/12 07:28 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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I was at rhinofest in little old vermont last summer, woke up on the last day and went to find my friend. found him belly up mouth open passed the fuck out in a chair, in a campsite across the way' from ours. we walk back to our campsite to begin packing. We look up at one point to commotion happening. in the campsite next to were i found him there was now an ambulance and paramedics... RIP john doe, cardiac arrest, bad heart plus good time
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: Subconscious]
#15753318 - 02/02/12 07:52 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Probably got bromo'd and took too much. Tox reports should be out later, though.
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: Mr. Bojangles]
#15753408 - 02/02/12 08:09 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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im calling bullshit on this as well , aussie acid is usually made so weak you need ten hits to register.
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: Simplepowa]
#15753577 - 02/02/12 08:49 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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REpost.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/15739035
sort of.
Story is just as worthless.
Why's everyone blaming bromodragonfly?
Or any drug- NO toxicology tests done yet.
They're going by what his mom is saying she heard in a phone call.
It was very hot outside. the guy could have been dehydrated. Could have had an underlying condition.
Maybe it really was LSD, he just had a bad trip cause he was sick and about to die anyway?
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: Beefy1]
#15753714 - 02/02/12 09:19 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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the mom even said it, drugs took my son.. im so sorry for his dead, its tragic but we dont know what kind of person this was, it could of been a junkie that did everything at the same time and this happened.. we would need more details, but i bet that was not acid, but maybe acid with a lot of other shit...
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: Simplepowa]
#15753804 - 02/02/12 09:37 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Simplepowa said:
Quote:
nottheusual said: Acid resulting in cardiac arrest drug overdose? What do you think he really took?
LSD overdose...
let's try that if you're rich.
Erowid:
LD50 (Lethal Dose*) 12,000 ug
* LD50 = dose which will kill 50% of the tested animals.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_dose.shtml
so, if each tab is around 100 ug, 120 tabs... yeah.
No.
Probably polydrug thing, mixed chemical or dehydration maybe. It can be anything at this point.
a lab animal (mouse) is about 20g, a human about 80kg. so it would take about 400.000ug to kill a person but that is just in theory. and i know for a fact that you can take 150.000ug and come back to your senses
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: Simplepowa]
#15753924 - 02/02/12 10:09 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
Simplepowa said:
Quote:
nottheusual said: Acid resulting in cardiac arrest drug overdose? What do you think he really took?
LSD overdose...
let's try that if you're rich.
Erowid:
LD50 (Lethal Dose*) 12,000 ug
* LD50 = dose which will kill 50% of the tested animals.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_dose.shtml
so, if each tab is around 100 ug, 120 tabs... yeah.
No.
Probably polydrug thing, mixed chemical or dehydration maybe. It can be anything at this point.
I believe (as a part of MK-ultra) experiments were done on live human subjects to determine the LD50 of LSD in a human beings, shockingly enough only to reveal they literally could not find one. They were notorious for using people like the homeless, even volunteer soldiers who most likely had no idea what they were really doing, because there are other examples of drugs being tested on soldiers to find that LD50 and innocent soldiers dying at the hands of our own military.
The point here is that people who were given inconceivable amounts of pharmaceutical strength government LSD basically with the intent to kill the subject, only for these people to survive. I don't feel like digging for the exact literature or video I got this information from, I think it may have been one of many "MK-ultra testimonial videos" you can find on youTube with disturbing first hand accounts from the unwilling test subjects, some of whom were just children at the time, civilians.
I believe the videos are from some time during the Clinton presidency because I remember he actually formally acknowledge and apologized to the MK-ultra victims (anyone who's never researched this is STRONGLY urge you to) because these were literally atrocities committed against our own people. The videos I'm thinking of were recorded in a court room and I believe at the end of that all many of these people received financial compensation for the damages and traumas they suffered at the hands of their own government.
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: PsilocybinMike]
#15754572 - 02/03/12 02:32 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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so there are a fair few tales and twists to this story getting around. this is only hearsay, i don't want to spread mis information but i have heard from a few people that there was at least one 'hard' drug involved in this equation..
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: Psilobuds]
#15755863 - 02/03/12 12:46 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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The blotter could of been a dox or nbome compound
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Re: 'Everything is very odd here': Festival bad acid tragedy [Re: LawnPhenom]
#15756278 - 02/03/12 02:50 PM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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^most likely the blotter did not kill him
They would say that he died from vasco-constriction if he did...I mean that is a horrible and grotesque way to die very news worthy I suppose for the shock factor.
This article is bullshit
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Mr Buccianti asked his mother to pick him up but 40 minutes later he called again to say he was fine.
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