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OfflineYawnGG
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The most important political topic of our time.
    #15746274 - 02/01/12 07:07 AM (3 months, 26 days ago)

The most important issue in politics in america is the federal reserve system. It is ran by an elite group of bankers that use its power to print money from thin air. It is whats known as a "central bank" in most parts of the world. The people that control the federal reserve use this money printed from thin air to control the political arena. Did you know that when you apply for a loan of any type, you are not actually being loaned money? The money does not actually exist, the federal reserve does its magic to create money from nothing, then loans it to you. Whats the big problem with this? They collect on the interest of said money. The banks are collecting interest from you for money that does not actually exist. This may sound far fetched but I assure you its true. They then use this money to obtain more control of our population. They destroy other countrys and prop up a dictater under the guise of democracy, and setup a central bank there as well! Its spreading like a virus.. How could this come to be? Here is a video that everyone should watch if you intend to learn anything politics. You may heard people talking about things like "new world order", well, here is the root of it.



This is something the government controlled education system or media will NEVER teach you, this is what the government does not what you to know. Thanks for reading, and don't forget to bring a towel. :smile:


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Re: The most important political topic of our time. [Re: YawnGG]
    #15746318 - 02/01/12 07:29 AM (3 months, 26 days ago)

to find the rest on youtube just saerch for  "Creature from Jekyll Island 2 of 12" , and so fourth.


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Re: The most important political topic of our time. [Re: YawnGG]
    #15746345 - 02/01/12 07:36 AM (3 months, 26 days ago)

What stopped the world bankers to just take the gold before the backing was changed OP?


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Re: The most important political topic of our time. [Re: the human abstract]
    #15746493 - 02/01/12 08:21 AM (3 months, 26 days ago)

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the human abstract said:
What stopped the world bankers to just take the gold before the backing was changed OP?




That is a really good question. I think the idea was you had to first make money not equal gold. If the government came to you and demanded all your money it would look worse then if they demanded a precious metal, we are already in the practice of giving up metals to our government for things like war. This is just my best guess though, I will try to find another opinion on the matter. If you beat me to it please let me know:)

EDIT: It also seems likely that there debt slaves could still maintain there current existance without there gold. Also the dollar was being devalued greatly so gold prices were constantly rising, they could have viewed this as a threat to there manipulation scheme and adjusted accordingly by stealing the gold of all its citizens.


Edited by YawnGG (02/01/12 08:33 AM)


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Re: The most important political topic of our time. [Re: YawnGG] * 1
    #15748390 - 02/01/12 05:02 PM (3 months, 25 days ago)

The banks are collecting money from the interest I paid on the loan that I used to buy my house and the person I bought it from bought another house with the money I got from the bank to buy his house and that person....................................

I am very grateful to the bank for lending me the money and quite happy to pay a small fee for that service.  If you don't like the interest rates banks charge don't fucking borrow money from them.  As for myself I would prefer that you mind your own fucking business and stop telling me what is good for me.  You are not qualified to decide.


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Re: The most important political topic of our time. [Re: zappaisgod]
    #15748487 - 02/01/12 05:24 PM (3 months, 25 days ago)

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The banks are collecting money from the interest I paid on the loan that I used to buy my house and the person I bought it from bought another house with the money I got from the bank to buy his house and that person....................................

I am very grateful to the bank for lending me the money and quite happy to pay a small fee for that service.  If you don't like the interest rates banks charge don't fucking borrow money from them.  As for myself I would prefer that you mind your own fucking business and stop telling me what is good for me.  You are not qualified to decide.




I think you are very confused sir. The bank did not lend you money, it created money from thin air then charged you interest on it. If you baught a house that cost say 100k$, over 30 years the bank will make 175k$ on interest. I don't have a big problem with this. But you see, they didn't lend you any money. They created the money, then lended it to you. They made 175k$ for pushing a few buttons. There was no capitol invested, the central bank had nothing to lose if you don't pay it back. Please try to understand the big picture rather then being so emotional.


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Re: The most important political topic of our time. [Re: YawnGG]
    #15748501 - 02/01/12 05:26 PM (3 months, 25 days ago)

I clicked on your image, it shows that you are concerned with our national debt, who do you we owe this national debt to? The federal reserve. Which isn't federal, nor do they have any reserve. It is a scam, it is the largest scam in recorded history.


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Re: The most important political topic of our time. [Re: YawnGG]
    #15748532 - 02/01/12 05:32 PM (3 months, 25 days ago)

I have pointed you all to the creator of wars, the enslavers of our nation. The information is most shocking and RIGHT AT YOUR FINGER TIPS. I can lead a horse to water....

but its your choice to drink. All you have to do is swallow the red pill and watch how deep the rabbit hole really goes.


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Re: The most important political topic of our time. [Re: YawnGG]
    #15750179 - 02/02/12 12:06 AM (3 months, 25 days ago)

Quote:

YawnGG said:
I have pointed you all to the creator of wars, the enslavers of our nation. The information is most shocking and RIGHT AT YOUR FINGER TIPS. I can lead a horse to water....

but its your choice to drink. All you have to do is swallow the red pill and watch how deep the rabbit hole really goes.




The amazing thing is that you actually think you're providing new, revelatory information. :rofl2: You haven't posted anything that 500 posters haven't already posted before. :yawn: We're really glad, though, and even proud, that you just discovered the Internet. :yesnod:


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Re: The most important political topic of our time. [Re: fireworks_god]
    #15751162 - 02/02/12 09:18 AM (3 months, 25 days ago)

Quote:

fireworks_god said:
Quote:

YawnGG said:
I have pointed you all to the creator of wars, the enslavers of our nation. The information is most shocking and RIGHT AT YOUR FINGER TIPS. I can lead a horse to water....

but its your choice to drink. All you have to do is swallow the red pill and watch how deep the rabbit hole really goes.




The amazing thing is that you actually think you're providing new, revelatory information. :rofl2: You haven't posted anything that 500 posters haven't already posted before. :yawn: We're really glad, though, and even proud, that you just discovered the Internet. :yesnod:




Apparently Zappa has no idea about it, and he seems pretty active on these boards. Just because you know the fed is "bad" doesn't mean you know exactly how evil it is. I can tell many here are uneducated on the federal reserve.


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Re: The most important political topic of our time. [Re: YawnGG]
    #15751172 - 02/02/12 09:20 AM (3 months, 25 days ago)

> I can tell many here are uneducated on the federal reserve.

Indeed.  Fortunately, they are pretty easy to spot, as almost all of those ignorant of how the federal reserve actually works are Ron Paul disciples.


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Re: The most important political topic of our time. [Re: YawnGG]
    #15751907 - 02/02/12 01:18 PM (3 months, 24 days ago)

Here is the same video just not placed into parts. Judge for yourself!



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Re: The most important political topic of our time. [Re: YawnGG]
    #15751912 - 02/02/12 01:19 PM (3 months, 24 days ago)

Suess is a troll that never presents any facts.


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Re: The most important political topic of our time. [Re: YawnGG]
    #15751967 - 02/02/12 01:39 PM (3 months, 24 days ago)

Seuss?  :lol: nah


And Zappa is right, and to further clarify you OP the banks are supplying
A service to the people.  We don't have to use it if we don't want to.

It's pretty simple...


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The countdown to the break up of the euro has officially begun.

A great financial crisis is going to erupt in Europe, and it is going to shake the world to the core.

If you were frightened by what happened back in 2008, then you are going to be absolutely horrified by what is coming next.

"You throw the sand against the wind
And the wind blows it back again."
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Re: The most important political topic of our time. [Re: Shill]
    #15752079 - 02/02/12 02:13 PM (3 months, 24 days ago)

sorry for bad langauge english i am french

he is not speaking of local but bank but big central bank you call federal reserve bank

local bank only have 10% of money it loan out. federal reserve say "i cover you for rest" but federal reserve have no money. it print money.

so what he say is true
you pay interest on money that do not exist

one person say "don't use banks" and it is fine
but it not fine, people not know money not exist. they be scammed

we have same issue here in europe

the federal reserve system make more money then you country gross demostic product

this big problem!


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Re: The most important political topic of our time. [Re: YawnGG]
    #15752098 - 02/02/12 02:17 PM (3 months, 24 days ago)

Quote:

YawnGG said:
Here is the same video just not placed into parts. Judge for yourself!






video of extreme importance
thanks sir


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Re: The most important political topic of our time. [Re: JeJe]
    #15752114 - 02/02/12 02:20 PM (3 months, 24 days ago)

this video have more on subject

they kill Louis McFadden for try to impeach them



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Re: The most important political topic of our time. [Re: Shill]
    #15752117 - 02/02/12 02:22 PM (3 months, 24 days ago)

And we are more aware of that than any foreign person....


We don't have to use the fed either


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A great financial crisis is going to erupt in Europe, and it is going to shake the world to the core.

If you were frightened by what happened back in 2008, then you are going to be absolutely horrified by what is coming next.

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Re: The most important political topic of our time. [Re: JeJe]
    #15752180 - 02/02/12 02:40 PM (3 months, 24 days ago)

> but it not fine, people not know money not exist. they be scammed

People are not scammed by the banking system.  Unfortunately, they are not educated on how the Federal Reserve actually operates.  People's ignorance, with respect to the Federal Reserve, allows them to be easily swayed by conspiracy theory propaganda.  The "problem" is not with the Federal Reserve, but with fractional banking.  As long as deflation is avoided, and as long as people invest their money rather than save their money, then fractional banking is a fine.  The alternatives to fractional banking are much worse.  Systems tied to a precious metal standard limit economic growth to the availability of the metal.  Systems that avoid usury lending end up with severe limits on the amount of lending that is available.

The conspiracy theory people continue to push for a gold standard.  A quick look at history will quickly show that the gold standard is not the magic solution that people believe.  It is unfortunate that so many people ignore history and continue to claim the gold standard will save the world.  I would love to see a solution that could replace the Federal Reserve that would actually work.


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Re: The most important political topic of our time. [Re: Seuss]
    #15752363 - 02/02/12 03:24 PM (3 months, 24 days ago)

Quote:

Seuss said:
> but it not fine, people not know money not exist. they be scammed

People are not scammed by the banking system.  Unfortunately, they are not educated on how the Federal Reserve actually operates.  People's ignorance, with respect to the Federal Reserve, allows them to be easily swayed by conspiracy theory propaganda.  The "problem" is not with the Federal Reserve, but with fractional banking.  As long as deflation is avoided, and as long as people invest their money rather than save their money, then fractional banking is a fine.  The alternatives to fractional banking are much worse.  Systems tied to a precious metal standard limit economic growth to the availability of the metal.  Systems that avoid usury lending end up with severe limits on the amount of lending that is available.

The conspiracy theory people continue to push for a gold standard.  A quick look at history will quickly show that the gold standard is not the magic solution that people believe.  It is unfortunate that so many people ignore history and continue to claim the gold standard will save the world.  I would love to see a solution that could replace the Federal Reserve that would actually work.




Dean Baker the co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research not like fed either. he fall for crazy conspiracy theory too?


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