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25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy
    #15730989 - 01/28/12 07:03 PM (3 months, 29 days ago)

25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy
January 28, 2012 - globalpost.com

KELOWNA, B.C. – Ecstasy dealers and producers are playing a deadly game with users, cutting the party drug with potentially lethal chemicals to meet rising demand at home and internationally.

The British Columbia Coroner’s Office says 16 people died here last year and another three so far in January. In neighboring Alberta, examiners linked six deaths there to contaminated ecstasy, most recently a 43-year-old Calgary man. What troubles police is the man died in July, meaning the tainted supply may have been on the streets for months.

Toxicology reports found paramethoxymethamphetamine (PMMA) in the man’s system.

"What happened was the medical examiner's office searched their database for other cases that involved PMMA and that identified the July case," Julie Siddons, an Alberta Justice representative, told the Calgary Herald on Friday.

"They did not rerun any of the toxicology tests. PMMA is actually among the toxins that are screened for in Alberta. That particular case was an isolated case and we didn't see it again for four months."

Tests are underway related to two more deaths in that province.

Producers use PMMA because it’s cheaper and creates similar effects to ecstasy’s main ingredient, MDMA; however, PMMA can be five times more toxic and require more time to work, misleading users into taking more. It can also cause seizures and elevated body temperature, both of which can kill.

Canada is well known for its ecstasy, and the Vancouver area is at the center of production.

"We've had reports of it being exported to the Philippines, Japan. We are a source supply for this drug," RCMP Sgt. Scott Rintoul told CTV News. "Today, ecstasy's a stock – it's a stock to invest in. It's a hot commodity right now, and has been for the last 12, 13 years."

One dealer said demand is so high that producers will use drugs such as PMMA, and then give it free to addicts to test.

"They try the drug and come back and tell us how it is," said the dealer, whose identity CTV protected. "If we don't hear back from them and they're gone, hey, probably not good stuff."

The dealer, who CTV called Jason, said he’s driven from Vancouver to Calgary with 50,000 pills in his car. He said nearby Seattle and Edmonton are also big markets, and that dealers will go to any length to evade police.

"There's many ways: hidden compartments in a car, or you could put drugs in, say, a can. ... You put it in and you seal the can, and then it's labelled tuna or fish or whatever," he said.

"Now they have better ways of hiding it in cars, but hiding in cars is pretty much old school. Barely anyone does it," he said. "They fly it – they have submarines that take it for bigger drugs."


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Re: 25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy [Re: veggie]
    #15731003 - 01/28/12 07:06 PM (3 months, 29 days ago)

Goddamn. It was like 3 last week. This is getting shitty


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Re: 25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy [Re: King Klick]
    #15731055 - 01/28/12 07:19 PM (3 months, 29 days ago)

That stuff is available from coast to coast up here I know of 2 people where I am that got ahold of it 1 died and the other was critical in the hospital


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Re: 25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy [Re: Slayer1024]
    #15731098 - 01/28/12 07:29 PM (3 months, 29 days ago)

So sickening...


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"It is the "Devil" who caused women to show their legs, to titillate men - the same kind of legs,
now socially acceptable to gaze upon, which are revealed by young nuns as they walk about
in their shortened habits. What a delightful step in the right (or left) direction! Is it possible
we will soon see "topless" nuns sensually throwing their bodies about to the "Missa Solemnis
Rock"? Satan smiles and says he would like that fine - many nuns are very pretty girls with nice legs." -La Vey- Aka The Black Pope

-Selling Old Comis http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16286470


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Re: 25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy [Re: King Klick] * 1
    #15731256 - 01/28/12 08:05 PM (3 months, 29 days ago)

Fuck these shady cooks and fuck the politicians for not regulating the relatively harmless substance MDMA. Jesus christ when will the old people die?


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Re: 25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy [Re: Satival]
    #15731264 - 01/28/12 08:07 PM (3 months, 29 days ago)

Get a fucking tester people.  They are relatively cheap and they may save your life! I'm getting one now.


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now socially acceptable to gaze upon, which are revealed by young nuns as they walk about
in their shortened habits. What a delightful step in the right (or left) direction! Is it possible
we will soon see "topless" nuns sensually throwing their bodies about to the "Missa Solemnis
Rock"? Satan smiles and says he would like that fine - many nuns are very pretty girls with nice legs." -La Vey- Aka The Black Pope

-Selling Old Comis http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16286470


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Re: 25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy [Re: veggie]
    #15731342 - 01/28/12 08:35 PM (3 months, 29 days ago)

This sort of thing is one of many reasons why I don't buy street drugs other than weed anymore. :undecided:


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Re: 25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy [Re: veggie] * 1
    #15733275 - 01/29/12 10:52 AM (3 months, 29 days ago)

These 25 people are dead BECAUSE OF the drug war.  If MDMA were regulated and taxed, you'd know exactly what you're getting when you buy it. 

















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Re: 25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy [Re: Learyfan]
    #15736972 - 01/30/12 04:29 AM (3 months, 28 days ago)

If the government released the identifying characteristics of the pills in question they could reduce the deaths. But alas politics gets in the way.


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Re: 25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy [Re: slagMUFFIN]
    #15750340 - 02/02/12 01:35 AM (3 months, 25 days ago)

these pills are quite enough to kill some peoples and bad thing is some one lost the lifes


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Re: 25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy [Re: ToiletDuk]
    #15750375 - 02/02/12 02:10 AM (3 months, 25 days ago)

Quote:

ToiletDuk said:
This sort of thing is one of many reasons why I don't buy street drugs other than weed anymore. :undecided:




Agreed, I got bromo-dragonfly instead of LSD once. 3 hours up, 36 hours down, and you can't sleep.

I'm glad we did it on a friday.

We did it again, but the first time, around hour 20 we were definitely like WTF IS GOING ON!!!!???

Couple that with the fact bromo-dragonfly was brand new, and there was very little info on it, and no info on the part where it causes necrosis in larger doses...

So ya street drugs kids, you never know what the fuck they will be. I still risk it from time to time, but shrooms, and weed, and generally stuff you can make yourself is definitely preferred. (just don't make meth, it's never preferred)


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Re: 25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy [Re: Learyfan] * 2
    #15750799 - 02/02/12 07:06 AM (3 months, 25 days ago)

> These 25 people are dead BECAUSE OF the drug war.  If MDMA were regulated and taxed, you'd know exactly what you're getting when you buy it. 

Absolutely correct.


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Re: 25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy [Re: Seuss]
    #15751839 - 02/02/12 01:00 PM (3 months, 25 days ago)

Such a sad, sad state of affairs. Why haven't more people woken up with reports like this and realize the real reason these people are dying is because of the deregulation by the government?

If someone close to me died as a result of the illegal drug industry you can bet your ass I would be all over the press and media talking about how terrible it is. Then I would go on to sue the government for basically allowing that situation to happen.


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Re: 25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy [Re: psychedelia56]
    #15753858 - 02/02/12 08:52 PM (3 months, 24 days ago)

Quote:

They fly it – they have submarines




But, it would be most discreet, not to kill people.


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Re: 25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy [Re: slagMUFFIN]
    #15757950 - 02/03/12 08:11 PM (3 months, 23 days ago)

Quote:

King Klick said:
Get a fucking tester people.  They are relatively cheap and they may save your life! I'm getting one now.



:whathesaid:

Quote:

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If the government released the identifying characteristics of the pills in question they could reduce the deaths. But alas politics gets in the way.



:whathesaid:

That is sickening.  People are dead and they won't even tell people what the pills look like?  FTW!


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Re: 25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy [Re: Willy Wonka] * 2
    #15760466 - 02/04/12 01:10 PM (3 months, 23 days ago)

Another reason to legalize drugs


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Re: 25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy [Re: CaptainAmerica]
    #15760848 - 02/04/12 02:36 PM (3 months, 23 days ago)

naa.. the public at large is thinking "serves those junkies right, if they weren't taking illegal drugs, they would be alive."

Not my take, but just pointing out what John Q. Public probably thinks about all this.


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Re: 25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy [Re: bollocks]
    #15763638 - 02/05/12 08:26 AM (3 months, 22 days ago)

Not releasing a pic of the pills makes it suspicious. They might just be making this shit up, and connecting a bunch of random deaths together to try and curb drug use.


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Re: 25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy [Re: Viruk]
    #15772781 - 02/07/12 07:38 AM (3 months, 20 days ago)

I can't believe people still eat pressies.  I thought all that went out the window with the easy access to molly these days.


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Re: 25 deaths and counting from tainted Canadian ecstasy [Re: Novartis]
    #15772849 - 02/07/12 07:58 AM (3 months, 20 days ago)

A lot of people have been talking about the deaths up here. It's pretty sketchy especially for those that use the drug. I guess the only good effect is discouraging many people from further ecstasy use.

That is a small price to pay however for the deaths of innocent people from the corrupted drug black market that our government has brought to life and refuses to be responsible for.

Very sad, but considering the current state of things Ecstasy is something I won't touch.


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