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Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico
    #15717800 - 01/25/12 06:07 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico 10.07.2011

A landslide



The herbarium in Xalapa



Cactu picking mushrooms



A Diaethria species on Eriobotrya japonica



A Diaethria species on Eriobotrya japonica



Hydropus species

http://mushroomobserver.org/obs/83629



Probably not Tylopilus balloui

http://mushroomobserver.org/obs/83628



With KOH



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Pleurocystidia 1000x



Cheilocystidia 1000x



Spores 1000x



Microscopy notes



Psilocybe species, section Cordisporae

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Psilocybe neoxalapensis

http://mushroomobserver.org/obs/83615



Cactu holds an older specimen found a few inches away. The cap had rotted off, but the stem was left with a very long pseudorhiza with a bulb at the end.



Pileus cross section



Cheilocystidia 1000x



Spores 1000x



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Psilocybe teofiloi

http://mushroomobserver.org/obs/80211





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Pleurocystidia type C, 1000x



Pleurocystidia type B, 1000x



Pleurocystidia 1000x



Cheilocystidia 1000x




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Hymenochaete species

http://mushroomobserver.org/obs/79236



Suillus species

http://mushroomobserver.org/obs/79235






Retiboletus ornatipes

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Boletus curtisii

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Spores 1000x



Guepinia helvelloides

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Panellus stipticus

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Marasmius species

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Phaeocollybia sp.

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Spores 1000x



Psilocybe fagicola

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Phaeocollybia on the left, Psilocybe on the right



cheilocystidia 100×. Image created by putting the fresh mushroom on a microscope slide and illuminating from above with a white LED.



pileipellis, pileus trama, lamellar trama, 400x



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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15717823 - 01/25/12 06:12 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

Very nice photos.  I really enjoy looking at the more unusuall stuff.


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15717829 - 01/25/12 06:13 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

Loved the pics of Retiboletus ornatipes:heart:


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: alcoholichunter]
    #15717844 - 01/25/12 06:17 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

Simply incredible. :thumbup:
What I'd do to see those beauties in person.
Thank you! :cheers:


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Mysterious]
    #15718128 - 01/25/12 07:17 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

Very cool, Alan. Thanks for sharing all of these :congrats:


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: alcoholichunter]
    #15718202 - 01/25/12 07:30 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

Lots of very cool species :awesomenod:


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Ran-D]
    #15718235 - 01/25/12 07:37 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

:awesome:


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Ran-D]
    #15718255 - 01/25/12 07:40 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

:rockon:  :rockon:  :rockon:  :happyheart:

those are some crazy picture, and a vast assortment of mushroom's I've never even heard of. Great job as always.

are those things like kiwis?


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Ran-D]
    #15718261 - 01/25/12 07:41 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

I think the Marasmius species should be POTM!


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: newgui]
    #15718399 - 01/25/12 08:09 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

I really dig the white LED-lit cheilocystidia.


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: suchen]
    #15718987 - 01/25/12 10:12 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

god damb!! NEW Psilocybe species!! its wierd how they all look pretty similiar with those dark stipes. so activity unknown on them all? or was there some blueing noted?


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: suchen]
    #15718996 - 01/25/12 10:15 PM (4 months, 1 day ago)

the best psilocybe teofiloi pictures ive seen

i wonder how hot was that day .


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: suchen]
    #15719483 - 01/26/12 01:50 AM (4 months, 1 day ago)

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Very nice photos.  I really enjoy looking at the more unusuall stuff.





Veracruz is full of the more unusual stuff - 50% of the species I see I don't recognize.  Oaxaca is even better, 75% I don't recognize.

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Loved the pics of Retiboletus ornatipes:heart:




Yea they photograph well.

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Simply incredible. :thumbup:
What I'd do to see those beauties in person.





Its not hard, anyone can fly to Mexico. The fungus fair in mid August in Michoacan would be a good chance for new people to visit.

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Very cool, Alan. Thanks for sharing all of these :congrats:




This is less than 1% of what I have from this year.


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are those things like kiwis?





Loquats are a fruit native to southeastern China.  The fruits taste like a cross between a kiwi, plum, orange, peach and mango.

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I think the Marasmius species should be POTM!





So did Riverdweller.


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I really dig the white LED-lit cheilocystidia.





Cheilocystidia look so much better before they are squashed under a cover slip.

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god damb!! NEW Psilocybe species!! its wierd how they all look pretty similiar with those dark stipes. so activity unknown on them all? or was there some blueing noted?





They blued pretty well.  They look and taste very active, but I didn't eat any because I was swamped with microscopy every night.

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the best psilocybe teofiloi pictures ive seen





I have better ones.

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Upper 60's to lower 70's.


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15719965 - 01/26/12 07:52 AM (4 months, 1 day ago)

Great thread, great pics, I loved the angular spores on Psilocybe neoxalapensis, that is really weird.

So, I gotta ask, when are you going to write a book?


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: LanLord]
    #15720039 - 01/26/12 08:24 AM (4 months, 1 day ago)

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I am working on a few books.  It will be a couple years before they are ready.


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15720106 - 01/26/12 08:52 AM (4 months, 1 day ago)

Great finds, thanks for sharing!  :thumbup:

I didn't know that Guepinia helvelloides grows in subtropical regions.
They grow 2 km away from my house and now I see them grow in Mexico.  :biggrin:

Must be a very adaptive species.


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15720162 - 01/26/12 09:12 AM (4 months, 1 day ago)

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Simply incredible. :thumbup:
What I'd do to see those beauties in person.





Its not hard, anyone can fly to Mexico. The fungus fair in mid August in Michoacan would be a good chance for new people to visit.





I'm seriously considering doing it either this year or next.. The media portrays Mexico as dangerous but you make it look like paradise.


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15723027 - 01/26/12 09:32 PM (4 months, 20 hours ago)

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Great thread, great pics, I loved the angular spores on Psilocybe neoxalapensis, that is really weird.

So, I gotta ask, when are you going to write a book?




damb i was thinking the same thing!! those are very cool for Psilocybe spores!
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So, I gotta ask, when are you going to write a book?





I am working on a few books.  It will be a couple years before they are ready.




nice i cant wait!! i want signed copies !! :thumbup:

i am mesmerized by that B curtisii!! its just so perfect! did you eat it ?


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Ran-D]
    #15724961 - 01/27/12 11:51 AM (4 months, 5 hours ago)

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The media portrays Mexico as dangerous but you make it look like paradise.





I don't know, I have never felt unsafe there and no one has taken any of my stuff.  Depends on where you are.  There are some places it would be bad to go; the locals know where these places are and my friends don't let me go there.

I feel more unsafe in Oakland at night.

If you are out looking for mushrooms every day and camping out, no one is going to bother you. 

Mexicans are no more likely to be criminals than any other people.  They are very cool, and on average they care about random people more than most people do in the US.  Complete strangers often treat me like family.

In Mexico, the police rarely do anything, so people pretty do much whatever they want.  I drive an older 4wd suv with Mexican plates and mushrooms piled nearly to the ceiling.  Occasionally the cops / army / federal police search it but they just take a quick look and send us on our way.

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i am mesmerized by that B curtisii!! its just so perfect! did you eat it ?





No, I saved it for a few days, hoping it would make some spores.  It never did though.


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15725393 - 01/27/12 01:50 PM (4 months, 3 hours ago)

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Mexicans are no more likely to be criminals than any other people.  They are very cool, and on average they care about random people more than most people do in the US.  Complete strangers often treat me like family.








That's what I figured. I have a buddy from Michoacán, I'm going to convince him to spend a summer down there with me since my Spanish is terrible and I've only been to Mexico once.. Thanks for the inspiration :cool:


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Ran-D]
    #15725687 - 01/27/12 03:03 PM (4 months, 2 hours ago)

Michoacan has a lot of good mushrooms and the fungus fair in Mid August in Senguio.  Its not far from Los Azufres and Morelia.  I will make some threads about Michoacan in a few days.

The west side of Michoacan can be a bit dangerous.  My friends won't let me see the coast.


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15726717 - 01/27/12 06:45 PM (3 months, 30 days ago)

Outstanding Alan:congrats::wow::awesomenod::headbanger:

Thankyou for sharing - PLEASSSSEEEE keep it up:cheers:


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: sporeRider]
    #15733376 - 01/29/12 11:11 AM (3 months, 29 days ago)

Beautiful as always! :smile:

Nominated the Psilocybe teofiloi for POTM!


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: knarkkorven]
    #15743627 - 01/31/12 03:59 PM (3 months, 27 days ago)

Beautiful pics , beautiful finds ! :thumbup: :mushroom2:

amazed every time :sun:


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15744851 - 01/31/12 08:44 PM (3 months, 26 days ago)

Utterly breathtaking, as always. I can't wait to see all the other pictures in your collection. Wouldn't be surprised if you racked up a years worth of POTM awards, at least. You might have to pace yourself so that you don't discourage the other POTM applicants.
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Of course, the psilocybes are particularly amazing. It's easy to read that there are hundreds of seperate species, but it's quite another thing to actually see tons of recent specimens. Again, I can't wait to see all the other pictures you're hoarding.


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: nooneman]
    #15744947 - 01/31/12 09:05 PM (3 months, 26 days ago)

is Psilocybe neoxalapensis related to or the same as Psilocybe herrerae ?


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #15748012 - 02/01/12 03:25 PM (3 months, 26 days ago)

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is Psilocybe neoxalapensis related to or the same as Psilocybe herrerae ?




It is similar, but P. neoxalapensis has two types of cheilocystidia and other microscopic differences.  P. herrerae is the same as P. fagicola but has larger pleurocystidia.  The two are probably conspecific, you can't define a new species based on slightly larger pleurocystidia.  They are perhaps keeping them separate to honor Dr. Herrera.

In my experience, P. herrerae is much larger than the other members of the fagicola complex, but that might just be coincidence since the size difference is not reported in the literature.

All members of the fagicola complex look similar and must be closely related.  I am sure the people doing the DNA work at the University of Guadalajara have an opinion on this.  When their work is released, a lot of things will change.

No one has cultivated any members of this complex to my knowledge, but at least 2 people have them going on agar now.

There was a recent paper on the fagicola complex with a key, you can read it here.  Separating the members of the fagicola complex is the most difficult microscope work I have ever done.  When I get back to Veracruz next June I will have hundreds of hours of scope work to do.  I rationalize this immense waste of time by telling myself that it is important; without it there would be dozens of collections of "Psilocybe sp."


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15751141 - 02/02/12 09:12 AM (3 months, 25 days ago)

Crap, I have the older and apparently invalid name P. novoxalapensis in my notes.  I will have to amend my list.


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Workman]
    #15752953 - 02/02/12 05:51 PM (3 months, 24 days ago)

Also note the new and more correct spelling P. teofiloi.


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15753578 - 02/02/12 07:49 PM (3 months, 24 days ago)

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is Psilocybe neoxalapensis related to or the same as Psilocybe herrerae ?




It is similar, but P. neoxalapensis has two types of cheilocystidia and other microscopic differences.  P. herrerae is the same as P. fagicola but has larger pleurocystidia.  The two are probably conspecific, you can't define a new species based on slightly larger pleurocystidia.  They are perhaps keeping them separate to honor Dr. Herrera.

In my experience, P. herrerae is much larger than the other members of the fagicola complex, but that might just be coincidence since the size difference is not reported in the literature.

All members of the fagicola complex look similar and must be closely related.  I am sure the people doing the DNA work at the University of Guadalajara have an opinion on this.  When their work is released, a lot of things will change.

No one has cultivated any members of this complex to my knowledge, but at least 2 people have them going on agar now.

There was a recent paper on the fagicola complex with a key, you can read it here.  Separating the members of the fagicola complex is the most difficult microscope work I have ever done.  When I get back to Veracruz next June I will have hundreds of hours of scope work to do.  I rationalize this immense waste of time by telling myself that it is important; without it there would be dozens of collections of "Psilocybe sp."





ya i figured they were related. that is a nice bit of information Alan.we are very lucky to have you as an active member.

its awesome what your doing. i dont think its waste of time! its pretty friggin exciting!


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: psylosymonreturns]
    #15753615 - 02/02/12 07:57 PM (3 months, 24 days ago)

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its pretty friggin exciting!




Uhhhhm HELL YEAH it is:shineon: Alan:headbanger:

you come up with :super: cool names too

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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15753805 - 02/02/12 08:37 PM (3 months, 24 days ago)

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So, I gotta ask, when are you going to write a book?





I am working on a few books.  It will be a couple years before they are ready.



Alan you are amazing.  I'll certainly be buying those!  Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World is great, but I'm sure you'll give us something even better!

And Retiboletus ornatipes for POTM!

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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: sporeRider]
    #15755787 - 02/03/12 11:29 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

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just waiting for psilocybe rockefeller to also make the books:hatsoff:





I can't do that.  Perhaps someone else will.



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And Retiboletus ornatipes for POTM!





Good idea, please nominate it.


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15755808 - 02/03/12 11:35 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

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I can't do that.  Perhaps someone else will.




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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: riverdweller]
    #15755828 - 02/03/12 11:38 AM (3 months, 24 days ago)

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why not?




It is against the rules to name a mushroom after yourself.

And I would never even consider breaking the rules.


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15756480 - 02/03/12 02:41 PM (3 months, 24 days ago)

Then just name one Psilocybe cobracommander. You would be remembered by mycologists for generations!


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Gravija]
    #15756674 - 02/03/12 03:22 PM (3 months, 24 days ago)

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Then just name one Psilocybe cobracommander. You would be remembered by mycologists for generations!



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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: riverdweller]
    #15757913 - 02/03/12 07:59 PM (3 months, 23 days ago)

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Then just name one Psilocybe cobracommander. You would be remembered by mycologists for generations!



:lol:



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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Gravija]
    #15758019 - 02/03/12 08:34 PM (3 months, 23 days ago)

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Then just name one Psilocybe cobracommander. You would be remembered by mycologists for generations!




Great idea!  But which one?


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15758595 - 02/03/12 11:32 PM (3 months, 23 days ago)

All I can say is WOW. Thanks Alan...


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: gman]
    #15763694 - 02/05/12 08:42 AM (3 months, 22 days ago)

"Retiboletus ornatipes" is Retiboletus flavoniger


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15763845 - 02/05/12 09:34 AM (3 months, 22 days ago)

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And Retiboletus ornatipes for POTM!





Good idea, please nominate it.




Here you go!

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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15764485 - 02/05/12 12:55 PM (3 months, 22 days ago)

great to know you are still traveling in mexico alan. great pics and unusual species as usual. How is your spanish? Im still in Chile, haha. Mine is getting pretty good I guess. Hope to visit you some day again but this time with my chilean girlfriend (who I have brought under the spell of mushroom huntting) and this time in mexico.. Happy trails


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: wowitch17]
    #15765974 - 02/05/12 07:23 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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How is your spanish?




Que chido buey.


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but this time with my chilean girlfriend (who I have brought under the spell of mushroom huntting) and this time in mexico.. Happy trails





See you in June in Veracruz or July in Oaxaca or August in Michoacan or September in Jalisco.


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"Retiboletus ornatipes" is Retiboletus flavoniger





Orale?  How do you know?  I have never heard of that species and there isn't much on google.  I have been thinking for awhile that it is not R. ornapies.


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15766321 - 02/05/12 08:46 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: eLShaMukO]
    #15766488 - 02/05/12 09:24 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

http://www.nybg.org/bsci/res/hall/flavongr.html

couple short but good papers.. interesting info on R-boletus ornatipes/retipes
if you have jstor access
http://www.jstor.org/pss/3761543
"Boletus flavoniger appears allied with taxa such as B. ornatipes Peck and B. retipes Berk.,Curt, but B. flavoniger has a black pileus and a black pigment in the lower part of the stipe, a hymenophore and context that stains brown, and extremely bitter taste. One's fingers are stained orange to yellow from handling this species."

http://www.clarku.edu/faculty/dhibbett/mbinder/pdf/Retiboletus.pdf
"B. flavoniger  is
another species similar to  B. ornatipes and
B. retipes. It has recently been described from
Costa Rica and differs from the previously
mentioned species in an orange brown staining
hymenophore and context and extremely bitter
taste (HALLING & MUELLER 1999)" (refers to above)


you can find full description in first link, "New Boletes from Costa Rica" by Roy Halling and Greg Mueller


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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: eLShaMukO]
    #15766525 - 02/05/12 09:34 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #15775333 - 02/07/12 05:16 PM (3 months, 20 days ago)

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How is your spanish?




Que chido buey.








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