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 Alan Rockefeller
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 Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Ran-D]
#15725687 - 01/27/12 03:03 PM (4 months, 2 hours ago) |
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Michoacan has a lot of good mushrooms and the fungus fair in Mid August in Senguio. Its not far from Los Azufres and Morelia. I will make some threads about Michoacan in a few days.
The west side of Michoacan can be a bit dangerous. My friends won't let me see the coast.
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 sporeRider
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Outstanding Alan   
Thankyou for sharing - PLEASSSSEEEE keep it up
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knarkkorven
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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: sporeRider]
#15733376 - 01/29/12 11:11 AM (3 months, 29 days ago) |
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Beautiful as always! 
Nominated the Psilocybe teofiloi for POTM!
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Teva
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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: knarkkorven]
#15743627 - 01/31/12 03:59 PM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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Beautiful pics , beautiful finds !  
amazed every time 
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nooneman
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Utterly breathtaking, as always. I can't wait to see all the other pictures in your collection. Wouldn't be surprised if you racked up a years worth of POTM awards, at least. You might have to pace yourself so that you don't discourage the other POTM applicants.
Of course, the psilocybes are particularly amazing. It's easy to read that there are hundreds of seperate species, but it's quite another thing to actually see tons of recent specimens. Again, I can't wait to see all the other pictures you're hoarding.
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psylosymonreturns
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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: nooneman]
#15744947 - 01/31/12 09:05 PM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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is Psilocybe neoxalapensis related to or the same as Psilocybe herrerae ?
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Alan Rockefeller
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is Psilocybe neoxalapensis related to or the same as Psilocybe herrerae ?
It is similar, but P. neoxalapensis has two types of cheilocystidia and other microscopic differences. P. herrerae is the same as P. fagicola but has larger pleurocystidia. The two are probably conspecific, you can't define a new species based on slightly larger pleurocystidia. They are perhaps keeping them separate to honor Dr. Herrera.
In my experience, P. herrerae is much larger than the other members of the fagicola complex, but that might just be coincidence since the size difference is not reported in the literature.
All members of the fagicola complex look similar and must be closely related. I am sure the people doing the DNA work at the University of Guadalajara have an opinion on this. When their work is released, a lot of things will change.
No one has cultivated any members of this complex to my knowledge, but at least 2 people have them going on agar now.
There was a recent paper on the fagicola complex with a key, you can read it here. Separating the members of the fagicola complex is the most difficult microscope work I have ever done. When I get back to Veracruz next June I will have hundreds of hours of scope work to do. I rationalize this immense waste of time by telling myself that it is important; without it there would be dozens of collections of "Psilocybe sp."
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Workman
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Crap, I have the older and apparently invalid name P. novoxalapensis in my notes. I will have to amend my list.
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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Workman]
#15752953 - 02/02/12 05:51 PM (3 months, 24 days ago) |
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Also note the new and more correct spelling P. teofiloi.
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psylosymonreturns
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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psylosymonreturns said:
is Psilocybe neoxalapensis related to or the same as Psilocybe herrerae ?
It is similar, but P. neoxalapensis has two types of cheilocystidia and other microscopic differences. P. herrerae is the same as P. fagicola but has larger pleurocystidia. The two are probably conspecific, you can't define a new species based on slightly larger pleurocystidia. They are perhaps keeping them separate to honor Dr. Herrera.
In my experience, P. herrerae is much larger than the other members of the fagicola complex, but that might just be coincidence since the size difference is not reported in the literature.
All members of the fagicola complex look similar and must be closely related. I am sure the people doing the DNA work at the University of Guadalajara have an opinion on this. When their work is released, a lot of things will change.
No one has cultivated any members of this complex to my knowledge, but at least 2 people have them going on agar now.
There was a recent paper on the fagicola complex with a key, you can read it here. Separating the members of the fagicola complex is the most difficult microscope work I have ever done. When I get back to Veracruz next June I will have hundreds of hours of scope work to do. I rationalize this immense waste of time by telling myself that it is important; without it there would be dozens of collections of "Psilocybe sp."
ya i figured they were related. that is a nice bit of information Alan.we are very lucky to have you as an active member.
its awesome what your doing. i dont think its waste of time! its pretty friggin exciting!
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sporeRider
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its pretty friggin exciting!
Uhhhhm HELL YEAH it is Alan
you come up with  cool names too
just waiting for psilocybe rockefeller to also make the books
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So, I gotta ask, when are you going to write a book?
I am working on a few books. It will be a couple years before they are ready.
Alan you are amazing. I'll certainly be buying those! Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World is great, but I'm sure you'll give us something even better!
And Retiboletus ornatipes for POTM!
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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: sporeRider]
#15755787 - 02/03/12 11:29 AM (3 months, 24 days ago) |
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wiscokid said:
just waiting for psilocybe rockefeller to also make the books
I can't do that. Perhaps someone else will.
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And Retiboletus ornatipes for POTM!
Good idea, please nominate it.
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riverdweller
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I can't do that. Perhaps someone else will.
why not?
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Alan Rockefeller
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why not?
It is against the rules to name a mushroom after yourself.
And I would never even consider breaking the rules.
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Gravija
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Then just name one Psilocybe cobracommander. You would be remembered by mycologists for generations!
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riverdweller
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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Gravija]
#15756674 - 02/03/12 03:22 PM (3 months, 24 days ago) |
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Then just name one Psilocybe cobracommander. You would be remembered by mycologists for generations!
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psylosymonreturns
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Then just name one Psilocybe cobracommander. You would be remembered by mycologists for generations!
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Cortadura, Veracruz, Mexico [Re: Gravija]
#15758019 - 02/03/12 08:34 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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Gravija said:
Then just name one Psilocybe cobracommander. You would be remembered by mycologists for generations!
Great idea! But which one?
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All I can say is WOW. Thanks Alan...
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