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 Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails  [Re: Cervantes]
#16251287 - 05/18/12 08:44 PM (1 year, 5 days ago) |
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Oh yeah. We all know everything in Google search engine (CIA, NSA origin btw) must be the all knowing certified Truth and nothing but. I know seasoned pilots who agree with me. They are also in a vast number to find in the holy oracle Google. I would think they know better than most. What is your qualifications in this field anyway? Appart from a few google searches.
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: lasdR]
#16251425 - 05/18/12 09:16 PM (1 year, 5 days ago) |
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I can guarantee you its not harmless what they are spraying.
they arent spraying anything and if they were spraying something harmfull
why dont we see politicians wearing gas masks and staying indoors in
secret underground bunkers with triple redundant filtration systems
Ok, here`s the deal. A lot of people "in the know", including a lot of "politicians", most who are corrupt to high heaven, puppets on a string working for their "gang", all of them hooked into secret societies. Freemasons most famous. Most freemasons in the end of the day are just foot soldiers who are being used. They sold out in a way. They enjoy the network in there. Now, that doesnt mean there is just one group behind all of this. Its a pyramid... And there are multiple factions fighting each other. Freemasons etc are mostly very low in the food chain. 95% of them. They simply do not see the big picture from their compartmentalized position.
People "in the know", all eat organic food, grown in green houses with air filters watered with filtered water. They filter all their water.
When they keep spraying highly populated areas this crap accumulates in the ground water and in the top soil. Chemtrails are just the top of the iceberg in this relation. Enough pollution around already, especially in the US with flouride etc.
These people "in the know" with a "position in the game" have access to better health care than what you get in your average "hospital".
Now, Prisoner... I already know what you will respond - I only try to plant some seeds around here .. So when you are ready, it will flower. But really, most of the skeptics in here seem to be beyond the point of no return. And of course you will say the same about people like me. Its bound to go where its at when you have the extreme skeptics and the extreme "theorists" getting together.
everyone is just trying to plant some seeds, why not stop trying to plant
seeds by throwing them on the ground all willy nilly and start digging in
and showing my how your garden grows because I certainly wont buy your
produce until I know how it grew
show us those filter system on the greenhouses
dont they still breathe the same air or do they have some sort of built in
filtration system implanted into them somewhere?
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: lasdR]
#16251464 - 05/18/12 09:26 PM (1 year, 5 days ago) |
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too bad that patent number that DD shows is wrong because it omits a couple
of things, not to mention it's fire suppression equipment using the patent
they have because it's shit like fighting forest fires that evergreen does
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=7,413,145.PN.&OS=PN/7,413,145&RS=PN/7,413,145
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A method and apparatus for aerial fire suppression utilizing a potable fire retardant chemical dispensing system, readily adaptable, without extensive aircraft modification, to various makes of aircraft, for dispensing current types of forest and range fire fighting chemicals. The aerial delivery system is self contained and reusable. It enables cargo/utility aircraft to carry and dump a load, under control. The aerial delivery system is capable of attachment at the wing box, pressurized delivery from the nozzles, and nozzles directed straight downward.
who is evergreen aviation?
well, we know who they arent and that's the CIA
http://www.evergreenaviation.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evergreen_International_Aviation
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: lasdR]
#16251478 - 05/18/12 09:29 PM (1 year, 5 days ago) |
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Oh yeah. We all know everything in Google search engine (CIA, NSA origin btw) must be the all knowing certified Truth and nothing but. I know seasoned pilots who agree with me. They are also in a vast number to find in the holy oracle Google. I would think they know better than most. What is your qualifications in this field anyway? Appart from a few google searches.
So you are saying contrails do not exist because you don't believe in google search results?
There are other ways to study contrails.
Contrails predate google.
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: Cervantes]
#16251587 - 05/18/12 09:55 PM (1 year, 5 days ago) |
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This thread and whoever believes in chem trails is just pure 
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: unknown1123]
#16253068 - 05/19/12 07:06 AM (1 year, 5 days ago) |
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Thats a good arguement Unknown. And the other guy, if you read the whole patent page it gets a bit more interesting. And Prisoner, Ill show you the nano-particle filters. No problem. Or you can find em for yourself.
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: lasdR]
#16253071 - 05/19/12 07:13 AM (1 year, 5 days ago) |
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I'm the other guy. Cute.
I am also an expert on this particular subject.
See, when it is cold, even cars can produce contrails.
When air swirls, or hot air meets cold... Or BOTH.... contrails are formed. Sometimes they last.
Add particulate matter, like gas fumes... and the air, in the right conditions, will go to town.
Prove me, AND SCIENCE wrong. And bite me if google doesn't work for you.
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: lasdR]
#16254958 - 05/19/12 07:52 PM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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lasdR said:
Con-trails and chemtrails are different in the way contrails go away in max 5 minutes.
More unsourced, conclusory, declarations. Wow, now I'm convinced.
Notice how whenever the chemtrail people make definite claims, in this case a rare claim as to how to even identify the phenomena claimed to exist, they get proven wrong?
Seriously, just provide one single source which backs up this claim in any way. I'm genuinely curious if you guys just make this up as you go along or if you actually base this off anything- maybe you have some youtube-research database that's feeding you the particulars.
So, "contrails go away in max 5 minutes", lets see what this study has to say on the matter:
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A total of 608 contrails were confirmed, ranging from threshold
contrails, which dissolved within a few seconds, to long
lasting contrails, which could be seen in some cases for
several hours. For comparison purpose we classified
empirically 3 different types according to the lifetime: the
short duration (threshold) contrails with a lifetime less or
equal to 1 minute, the medium duration contrails lasting
between 1 and 10 minutes and the long duration
contrails persistent longer than 10 minutes.
Contrail studies and forecasts in the subarctic atmosphere above Fairbanks, Alaska
http://ams.confex.com/ams/11aram22sls/techprogram/paper_82053.htm
Martin Stuefer,
Poster Session 8, Sensors and Observing Systems
Do you guys who are so concerned about this shit do even cursory research into this crap? (and by "research" I don't mean watching some guy on youtube make bare conclusions without citation or data)
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: lasdR]
#16255900 - 05/19/12 11:58 PM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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lasdR said:
Thats a good arguement Unknown. And the other guy, if you read the whole patent page it gets a bit more interesting. And Prisoner, Ill show you the nano-particle filters. No problem. Or you can find em for yourself.
no, I cant find GREEN HOUSES WITH NANO PARTICLE FILTERS so you'll have to post the pictures
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: johnm214]
#16257021 - 05/20/12 07:34 AM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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lasdR said:
Thats a good arguement Unknown. And the other guy, if you read the whole patent page it gets a bit more interesting. And Prisoner, Ill show you the nano-particle filters. No problem. Or you can find em for yourself.
no, I cant find GREEN HOUSES WITH NANO PARTICLE FILTERS so you'll have to post the pictures
lol, this is out there, trust me, or look harder. Nano-tech is nothing new. Pictures? A filter look like a filter dude. So does a green house.
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johnm214 said:
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lasdR said:
Con-trails and chemtrails are different in the way contrails go away in max 5 minutes.
More unsourced, conclusory, declarations. Wow, now I'm convinced.
Notice how whenever the chemtrail people make definite claims, in this case a rare claim as to how to even identify the phenomena claimed to exist, they get proven wrong?
Seriously, just provide one single source which backs up this claim in any way. I'm genuinely curious if you guys just make this up as you go along or if you actually base this off anything- maybe you have some youtube-research database that's feeding you the particulars.
So, "contrails go away in max 5 minutes", lets see what this study has to say on the matter:
Quote:
A total of 608 contrails were confirmed, ranging from threshold
contrails, which dissolved within a few seconds, to long
lasting contrails, which could be seen in some cases for
several hours. For comparison purpose we classified
empirically 3 different types according to the lifetime: the
short duration (threshold) contrails with a lifetime less or
equal to 1 minute, the medium duration contrails lasting
between 1 and 10 minutes and the long duration
contrails persistent longer than 10 minutes.
Contrail studies and forecasts in the subarctic atmosphere above Fairbanks, Alaska
http://ams.confex.com/ams/11aram22sls/techprogram/paper_82053.htm
Martin Stuefer,
Poster Session 8, Sensors and Observing Systems
Do you guys who are so concerned about this shit do even cursory research into this crap? (and by "research" I don't mean watching some guy on youtube make bare conclusions without citation or data)
Obviously and unfortunately this is the sort of explaination you are going to get when you look what the "status quo" has to say about these sort of subjects. That is how this has been rationalized for so long with. I've already said it, the "scientific communtiy" is controlled to a high degree. If you do not do as you "are told" in various ways, you loose your job, you get no funding for research, also you tend to get the cold shoulder in th peer to peer proccess. This isnt just my beleaf, but of course you will classifiy is as such and go off to something else.
Here is hours& hours for you guys to debunk, we could play this game of court tennis for eternity..
Issue #13) Chemtrails – No Joke – Hard Proof
Issue #14) Chemtrails – No Joke – More Hard Proof
Now most people will not go through this kind of research, because lets face it, most of us have better things to do with the day. And that is also how this CON has been pulled for so long, we're so busy "living it up", working to barely scrape by surviving in this system and world/reality. This interest me way more than chemtrails tbh. This is the cornerstone of this entire bizarre strange multi level mufti-dimension "conspiracy" when things boil down. ...
Sorry to "go off topic", but this is really way more relevant - enjoy!
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: lasdR]
#16257028 - 05/20/12 07:40 AM (1 year, 4 days ago) |
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Be careful though, the background music might hypnotize you and make you a filthy CONSPIRACY THEORIST! God forbid.
What is "reality", and what is "not"?
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unknown1123
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: lasdR]
#16258345 - 05/20/12 03:34 PM (1 year, 3 days ago) |
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: johnm214]
#16269335 - 05/22/12 08:33 PM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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johnm214 said:
Quote:
lasdR said:
Con-trails and chemtrails are different in the way contrails go away in max 5 minutes.
More unsourced, conclusory, declarations. Wow, now I'm convinced.
Notice how whenever the chemtrail people make definite claims, in this case a rare claim as to how to even identify the phenomena claimed to exist, they get proven wrong?
Seriously, just provide one single source which backs up this claim in any way. I'm genuinely curious if you guys just make this up as you go along or if you actually base this off anything- maybe you have some youtube-research database that's feeding you the particulars.
So, "contrails go away in max 5 minutes", lets see what this study has to say on the matter:
Quote:
A total of 608 contrails were confirmed, ranging from threshold
contrails, which dissolved within a few seconds, to long
lasting contrails, which could be seen in some cases for
several hours. For comparison purpose we classified
empirically 3 different types according to the lifetime: the
short duration (threshold) contrails with a lifetime less or
equal to 1 minute, the medium duration contrails lasting
between 1 and 10 minutes and the long duration
contrails persistent longer than 10 minutes.
Contrail studies and forecasts in the subarctic atmosphere above Fairbanks, Alaska
http://ams.confex.com/ams/11aram22sls/techprogram/paper_82053.htm
Martin Stuefer,
Poster Session 8, Sensors and Observing Systems
Do you guys who are so concerned about this shit do even cursory research into this crap? (and by "research" I don't mean watching some guy on youtube make bare conclusions without citation or data)
Many people use the topic of Chem trails to separate the idiots from those that actually have a brain.
When ever I see someone who understands and believes in chemtrails I say to myself;
"Isn't it nice to meet someone who is not a fucking idiot":)
Conversely
When ever I witness anyone who does not believe in chemtrails I say to myself;
"Isn't it wonderful how some people can be so fucking stupid" 
But hey, that is just my opinion.
There are a lot of baa baa sheep out there afraid to use their brains independantly and so they follow the main group of sheep.
But hey I am not calling anyone in here a fucking idiot, but if the shoe fits, who am I to judge
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: The_Oracle_666] 2
#16269718 - 05/22/12 09:35 PM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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Yeah...anyone who believes in chemtrails believes that there are literally thousands of pilots flying thousands of planes over every major city engaged in spraying...and they've been doing it for decades...and yet...not one person has ever come forward and admitted to being involved..
That's much more likely than it just being contrails..
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: The_Oracle_666] 2
#16269742 - 05/22/12 09:42 PM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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The_Oracle_666 said:
Many people use the topic of Chem trails to separate the idiots from those that actually have a brain.
I use the topic of chem trails in the exact same way.
Quote:
When ever I see someone who understands and believes in chemtrails I say to myself;
"Isn't it nice to meet someone who is not a fucking idiot":)
Conversely
When ever I witness anyone who does not believe in chemtrails I say to myself;
"Isn't it wonderful how some people can be so fucking stupid"
I come to the opposite conclusion though. People who believe in chemtrails are generally idiots believe in all sorts of other stupid crap.
If you keep your mind open, people will toss a lot of garbage in.
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unknown1123
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Alan Rockefeller said:
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The_Oracle_666 said:
Many people use the topic of Chem trails to separate the idiots from those that actually have a brain.
I use the topic of chem trails in the exact same way.
Quote:
When ever I see someone who understands and believes in chemtrails I say to myself;
"Isn't it nice to meet someone who is not a fucking idiot":)
Conversely
When ever I witness anyone who does not believe in chemtrails I say to myself;
"Isn't it wonderful how some people can be so fucking stupid"
I come to the opposite conclusion though. People who believe in chemtrails are generally idiots believe in all sorts of other stupid crap.
If you keep your mind open, people will toss a lot of garbage in.
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: lasdR]
#16270009 - 05/22/12 10:31 PM (1 year, 1 day ago) |
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lasdR said:
Quote:
Prisoner#1 said:
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lasdR said:
Thats a good arguement Unknown. And the other guy, if you read the whole patent page it gets a bit more interesting. And Prisoner, Ill show you the nano-particle filters. No problem. Or you can find em for yourself.
no, I cant find GREEN HOUSES WITH NANO PARTICLE FILTERS so you'll have to post the pictures
lol, this is out there, trust me, or look harder. Nano-tech is nothing new. Pictures? A filter look like a filter dude. So does a green house.
so once again it's a claim that simply cannot be backed up
give it a try, post a picture of one of these greenhouses with the nano filters
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rule, there are 44 words in the english language that follow the rule. this is
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: Prisoner#1]
#16342508 - 06/06/12 08:01 PM (11 months, 10 days ago) |
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Come on guys, let's not argue. How about a middle ground? The chemtrails DO exist but they're just the gubermints way of giving us much needed vitamins that we neglect in our western diets. Hmm the thought make me feel all warm and fuzzy.
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: Batty Koda]
#16342528 - 06/06/12 08:06 PM (11 months, 10 days ago) |
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That is actually an interesting point.
All these allegations that chemtrails exist without any real proof, and we are told chemtrails are bad to boot.
Why can't they be a good thing?
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: Batty Koda]
#16342531 - 06/06/12 08:06 PM (11 months, 10 days ago) |
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Batty Koda said:
Come on guys, let's not argue. How about a middle ground? The chemtrails DO exist but they're just the gubermints way of giving us much needed vitamins that we neglect in our western diets. Hmm the thought make me feel all warm and fuzzy.
Compromise and/or consensus are not effective or reliable ways to get to the truth...
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