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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: sloantbone] 2
#15769283 - 02/06/12 03:39 PM (3 months, 20 days ago) |
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Please debate the post, not the poster.
Insulting a person's intelligence is a personal attack and it has no place in this forum.
Such attacks are often a sign of a weak argument.
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: sloantbone] 1
#15777899 - 02/08/12 05:53 AM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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/nevermind. Good luck with the windmills.
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: koraks]
#15779216 - 02/08/12 12:52 PM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: sloantbone] 1
#15788040 - 02/10/12 09:36 AM (3 months, 17 days ago) |
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sloantbone said: I thought I would address a strange phenomenon that occurs in some people.
They deny the existence of chem-trails.
There are two reasons for that.
1) There is no incentive for planes to spray harmful chemicals. It would be expensive, dangerous and have no benefit for the sprayers.
2) The trails that you see are water vapor. Nothing about these trails suggests that they are anything else.
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One would think that with hundreds of thousands of videos and experts
Who are the experts who believe in chemtrails?
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#15788942 - 02/10/12 02:46 PM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said: 2) The trails that you see are water vapor. Nothing about these trails suggests that they are anything else.
they contain the chemicals Hydrogen and Oxygen which combines to make a powerful and sometimes lethal solvent
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: Prisoner#1]
#15791609 - 02/11/12 06:25 AM (3 months, 16 days ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said: they contain the chemicals Hydrogen and Oxygen which combines to make a powerful and sometimes lethal solvent
A powerful and lethal solvent? You must be referring to DMHO (dihydrogen monoxide). Do you have any proof of that? I don't want the government spraying that shit on me.
We can't sit idly by while the airlines conspire to poison us with monoxides.
DHMO kills thousands of people per year. Seriously, fuck that stuff.
Why is marijuana illegal while DHMO is legal, allowing people to buy it and spray it on the population?!??!??
WTF kind of shadow puppet government do we have? This is bullshit!
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#15818364 - 02/16/12 10:50 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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hey if it's good for a racehorse then it's good for us right? So what if it sends hitchhikers straight to the brain and reduces the fatal dose level of just about every toxin
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: cacharstar]
#15818367 - 02/16/12 10:51 AM (3 months, 11 days ago) |
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or was that dmso
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#15822426 - 02/17/12 06:34 AM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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Alan Rockefeller said: DHMO kills thousands of people per year. Seriously, fuck that stuff.
Why is marijuana illegal while DHMO is legal, allowing people to buy it and spray it on the population?!??!??
they even pump it into the water supply, farmers spray it on their crops and it seeps into the ground water where it affects peoples wells and stuff
and folks worry about fluoride
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: sloantbone]
#16109808 - 04/18/12 11:49 PM (1 month, 10 days ago) |
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Why would these chemicals be sprayed in the first place? The people in the planes spraying it or the people who would have ordered the spraying would be just as much as a victim as those people that were the target. Wind blows around, and small particles can and will spread vast distances. That's why nuclear fallout from a nuclear war would be so deadly, not just for the explosion victims.
Those chemtrails would disperse and spray their chemicals at the whim of the winds. Suicide or self-inflicted harm are usually not the goals of those in power and wishing to remain in power.
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: hockeyplyr1057]
#16156075 - 04/29/12 03:11 PM (30 days, 23 hours ago) |
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hockeyplyr1057 said: Why would these chemicals be sprayed in the first place? The people in the planes spraying it or the people who would have ordered the spraying would be just as much as a victim as those people that were the target. Wind blows around, and small particles can and will spread vast distances. That's why nuclear fallout from a nuclear war would be so deadly, not just for the explosion victims.
Those chemtrails would disperse and spray their chemicals at the whim of the winds. Suicide or self-inflicted harm are usually not the goals of those in power and wishing to remain in power.

I once saw a guy get kicked in the balls.
So I go into a discussion forum and say: " I saw a man get kicked in the balls"
Someone says " I don't believe anyone gets kicked in the balls", "Why would anyone kick anyone in the balls". 
My reply to them was;
" Look you fucking moron, I saw a guy get kicked in the balls and what the fuck does it matter why he was kicked in the balls. The fact is that he was kicked in the balls".
Same thing with Chem trails. 
I saw a plane making chem trails.
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: sloantbone]
#16156476 - 04/29/12 04:37 PM (30 days, 22 hours ago) |
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You totally twisted my argument around to fit your weak analogy.
" Look you fucking moron, I saw a guy get kicked in the balls and what the fuck does it matter why he was kicked in the balls. The fact is that he was kicked in the balls".
First, you are changing an argument of "why" to an argument of observations, which are not the same thing at all. Yes, I saw a man get kicked in the balls, but if you are trying relate my argument to this, I would be asking WHY he would be getting kicked in the balls in the first place. Same thing for the chemtrails, I was asking WHY this would happen; I was not asking if you or I have seen them.
Second, the kicker does not get affected by the other guy getting hit in the balls. Your analogy doesn't work. He would have to kick himself in the balls at the same time as he kicked the other person in the balls for it to relate to the idea of chemtrails.
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: hockeyplyr1057]
#16157794 - 04/29/12 09:36 PM (30 days, 17 hours ago) |
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hockeyplyr1057 said: You totally twisted my argument around to fit your weak analogy.
" Look you fucking moron, I saw a guy get kicked in the balls and what the fuck does it matter why he was kicked in the balls. The fact is that he was kicked in the balls".
First, you are changing an argument of "why" to an argument of observations, which are not the same thing at all. Yes, I saw a man get kicked in the balls, but if you are trying relate my argument to this, I would be asking WHY he would be getting kicked in the balls in the first place. Same thing for the chemtrails, I was asking WHY this would happen; I was not asking if you or I have seen them.
Second, the kicker does not get affected by the other guy getting hit in the balls. Your analogy doesn't work. He would have to kick himself in the balls at the same time as he kicked the other person in the balls for it to relate to the idea of chemtrails.
I have made a statement from something I have observed. From that observation, I have further taken the time to study as much information about the the phenomena as possible. From the overall facts and observations my conclusion is:
I am witnessing jet airplanes purposefully laying down Chem trails.
Now if you wish me to speculate (make a guess)as to why they are polluting the skies with chem-trails for that I don't know for sure.
However I have an another analogy and case history point to draw from.
Back in the Vietnam war the United States was spraying agent orange onto the tropical forest to defoliate them. This is a matter of fact and public record.
Below are some images of them spraying agent orange in Vietnam as well as the effects of this on humans.
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About Agent Orange
During the Vietnam War, the United States used Agent Orange to kill jungle foliage that served as cover for Viet Cong forces. American pilots sprayed Agent Orange from the air while ground troops applied the defoliant from tanks with hoses or from backpack sprayers. From 1962 to 1971, nearly 12 million gallons of Agent Orange doused the Vietnamese countryside. By war’s end, Agent Orange and related herbicides destroyed 4.5 million acres of forest and 585,000 acres of cultivated land.
The military industrial complex has a history of dropping chemical agents from the skies over populations, and having little to no concern whatsoever on the depravity of life.
In Vietnam, if the military Industry complex would have simply adopted a policy of refusing to admit that they dropped chemical agents from planes, few would be able to prove otherwise.
Simply because there will always be those that will refuse to even consider that the good old Military Industrial complex could lie to them at all. The people that refuse to believe will just accuse those that try and point out the obvious, that they are conspiracy theorist. Can you smell the coffee yet? 
In conclusion to this blurp, I have provided you with facts.
Historically the USA has dropped harmful chemicals on human beings, including their own citizens and military personal. To believe otherwise, would simply be naive. 
The Industrial Military complex certainly has a well known history of causing biological harm to both its personal and civilians, and then refusing to admit liability to compensate the injured for their loss and suffering.
There is clear evidence to demonstrate they are at it again! This time over our own skies here at home and abroad. The difference is we are not sure what the chemical are, and why they are doing it. They are refusing to admit they are doing it in the first place.
The reason why they get away with it so easily is because there is are so many people who just refuse to see it.
Lets face it, we only see what we want to see. IT is easy not to see something if we simply close our eyes and ears to it.....Isn't it. 
   

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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: sloantbone]
#16157885 - 04/29/12 09:55 PM (30 days, 17 hours ago) |
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My guess is that chemtrails are some sort of weather modification, perhaps cloud seeding.
but they want to keep it quiet for some reason or another.
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: sloantbone]
#16157898 - 04/29/12 09:58 PM (30 days, 17 hours ago) |
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Put what in who's pipe?
I don't see any evidence of chemtrails being used.
You know, a few air samples would really help your case. Are "chemtrails" preventing people from taking air samples?
Also, aren't you Canadian? Why are you blaming the USA for your "chemtrails"?
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: Shins]
#16157956 - 04/29/12 10:12 PM (30 days, 16 hours ago) |
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Shins said: My guess is that chemtrails are some sort of weather modification, perhaps cloud seeding.
Maybe they are just contrails.
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but they want to keep it quiet for some reason or another.
Does not seem likely.
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#16158059 - 04/29/12 10:44 PM (30 days, 16 hours ago) |
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Its a fact that cloud seeding is happening.
the chemtrails phoenomenon started not long after cloud seeding became a more common practice.
i would guess that they want to keep it quiet because they dont want to appear to be "stealing" rain from other countries and/or because it might be breaking UN resolutions regarding weather modification and warfare.
future predicted freash water shortages might play a part as well.
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: Shins]
#16158070 - 04/29/12 10:48 PM (30 days, 16 hours ago) |
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Also..
the point of cloud seeding is basically to create widespread contrails.
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: Shins]
#16158085 - 04/29/12 10:54 PM (30 days, 16 hours ago) |
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No, the point of cloud seeding is to reduce fog so airplanes can land.
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Re: The Conspiracy of Non Believers in Chemtrails [Re: Cervantes]
#16158127 - 04/29/12 11:09 PM (30 days, 15 hours ago) |
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That might be one use, but its not the only use.
it is also used to create rain for crops watersheds etc.
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