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Girlfriend problems with shrooms...
    #15679528 - 01/17/12 08:08 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Hey, I'm new here and I have a question...
I'm sure this has been asked before but -

My girlfriend just wont trip with me. I've been with her for 3 years and we have developed a strong mutual trust.

But no matter how hard I try (and believe me, I've done everything I can think of) I can't get her to trip with me.

Her main argument that she always ends with is "I don't want to have to be on drugs to have a great experience with you."
I don't know what to say to that...


Any suggestions? Please answer!


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Re: Girlfriend problems with shrooms... [Re: kinkymangodance]
    #15679552 - 01/17/12 08:14 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

tell her it will be an amazin experience for her why dont you stress her that she should try them sometime... perhaps with her friends and not with you??!!!

I think she is just not into it and you should stop pushing her to trip with you, does she likes to get high on something else??'

psychedelics arent for everyone


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Re: Girlfriend problems with shrooms... [Re: AIRDOG]
    #15679597 - 01/17/12 08:21 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Some people have vested beliefs in them from their family/friends/idols/religion that being sober is the most pure state of existence possible. Often, others will hold that same belief about illegal drugs but get hammered on weekends. Still, some people don't take any shit from anyone else and want to see what it's like to be sober/drunk/high/tripping balls.

If she has some concrete beliefs (Even if they don't make sense) about how great it is to be unaffected by third-party substances, you should just stop pushing her.


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Re: Girlfriend problems with shrooms... [Re: kinkymangodance] * 4
    #15679892 - 01/17/12 09:14 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

don't push it. if she doesn't want to trip with you, she shouldn't. at least she doesn't have a problem with you tripping. (or does she?)


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Re: Girlfriend problems with shrooms... [Re: claraclairvoyant] * 1
    #15680045 - 01/17/12 09:44 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

As long as she doesn't try to stop you from doing it, what's the issue?


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Re: Girlfriend problems with shrooms... [Re: kinkymangodance] * 1
    #15680544 - 01/17/12 11:11 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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kinkymangodance said:
Hey, I'm new here and I have a question...
I'm sure this has been asked before but -

My girlfriend just wont trip with me. I've been with her for 3 years and we have developed a strong mutual trust.

But no matter how hard I try (and believe me, I've done everything I can think of) I can't get her to trip with me.

Her main argument that she always ends with is "I don't want to have to be on drugs to have a great experience with you."
I don't know what to say to that...


Any suggestions? Please answer!




The better question is why would you try and talk someone into doing something they don't wish to do? She's made a choice. Respect it.


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Re: Girlfriend problems with shrooms... [Re: furthurxfuture]
    #15680612 - 01/17/12 11:19 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I'm in agreeance with the four posters above me.

You need to let it go.  If she doesn't want to trip with you, she won't.  Pushing it is only going to make you seem like an ass.

She may decide that she wants to try it someday down the road.


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Re: Girlfriend problems with shrooms... [Re: kinkymangodance]
    #15681947 - 01/18/12 05:51 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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kinkymangodance said:
Her main argument that she always ends with is "I don't want to have to be on drugs to have a great experience with you."
I don't know what to say to that...




Tell her that she has got a great argument and that she's right. And perhaps one day you'll actually see that she is indeed right.

It's not her who has an issue. It's you. Stop pushing her.


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Re: Girlfriend problems with shrooms... [Re: koraks]
    #15681973 - 01/18/12 06:16 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

You don't have an issue. You love tripping and you want someone you are very close to and care about to trip with you.

If you can only havw a good time together when tripping she is right. But she's more likely wrong. Its like saying i don't want to only have fun with you when (insert any activity).

But the reality is she doesn't want to trip. And she should simply say so. And pushing somone to do psychedelics when they don't want to is very dangerous territory.

Unfortunately there are a lot less women who trip than men so most men are going to have to be happy just having a girlfriend who accepts their tripping.


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Re: Girlfriend problems with shrooms... [Re: redpoppy]
    #16066025 - 04/09/12 06:06 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Wow. Thanks for the brutally honest input. I wouldn't have kept pushing but she promised she would do it with me, and she never followed up on that promise. I stopped nagging her about it, and she brought it up. She is debating taking them with me, but is not that comfortable. I don't want her to have a bad trip, I had one once and it was a complete nightmare. I don't recommend driving during a bad trip by the way, I'm lucky because I live in the middle of nowhere but I swear to god I was crying and swerving the car more than a drunk person.

So any ideas on how to make her comfortable with it?


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Re: Girlfriend problems with shrooms... [Re: kinkymangodance]
    #16066372 - 04/09/12 07:26 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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kinkymangodance said:
Wow. Thanks for the brutally honest input. I wouldn't have kept pushing but she promised she would do it with me, and she never followed up on that promise. I stopped nagging her about it, and she brought it up. She is debating taking them with me, but is not that comfortable. I don't want her to have a bad trip, I had one once and it was a complete nightmare. I don't recommend driving during a bad trip by the way, I'm lucky because I live in the middle of nowhere but I swear to god I was crying and swerving the car more than a drunk person.

So any ideas on how to make her comfortable with it?



You shouldn't be driving AT ALL while you're tripping, good trip or bad. :facepalm:


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Re: Girlfriend problems with shrooms... [Re: pwnasaurus]
    #16066509 - 04/09/12 07:59 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

:facepalm: Indeed.

Tripping is kind of like losing your virginity. You should only do it if you really want to, and feel ready to.
Make her more comfortable by telling her how beautiful and fun it is, and that you and she'll be ready to deal with things if the trip leads into the darker areas...

So, Are you ready to help her through a bad trip on the off chance that that happens? Are you smart enough to not do dumb things like try to drive while you trip??


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Re: Girlfriend problems with shrooms... [Re: Lynnch]
    #16066667 - 04/09/12 08:35 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Step 1) educate her
step 2) tell her tripping isnt about getting fucked up to be happy with each other. It's about being happy with each other and doing something profound together.

It's like saying i don't want to have to go out to dinner to have a great experience with you. You don't do anything together in efforts to become dependent on the activity's sole joy; You partake with said person because you enjoy their company more-so than any other person. Tell her you want to explore the subconscious of her brain and allow her to infiltrate yours. To get to know each other on a deeper level.

-Have you tried doing shrooms with her not on them? If not get an experienced friend to eat some and you two can trip sit. It will show her that nothing bad will happen and such....and yeah don't pressure her too hard, if she doesn't want todo em she's liable to experience a bad trip....


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Re: Girlfriend problems with shrooms... [Re: sofa_king_happy]
    #16066942 - 04/09/12 09:41 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Step 1) educate her
step 2) tell her tripping isnt about getting fucked up to be happy with each other. It's about being happy with each other and doing something profound together.

It's like saying i don't want to have to go out to dinner to have a great experience with you. You don't do anything together in efforts to become dependent on the activity's sole joy; You partake with said person because you enjoy their company more-so than any other person. Tell her you want to explore the subconscious of her brain and allow her to infiltrate yours. To get to know each other on a deeper level.

-Have you tried doing shrooms with her not on them? If not get an experienced friend to eat some and you two can trip sit. It will show her that nothing bad will happen and such....and yeah don't pressure her too hard, if she doesn't want todo em she's liable to experience a bad trip....



Great advice.


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Re: Girlfriend problems with shrooms... [Re: sofa_king_happy]
    #16067144 - 04/09/12 10:10 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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sofa_king_happy said:
Step 1) educate her
step 2) tell her tripping isnt about getting fucked up to be happy with each other. It's about being happy with each other and doing something profound together.

It's like saying i don't want to have to go out to dinner to have a great experience with you. You don't do anything together in efforts to become dependent on the activity's sole joy; You partake with said person because you enjoy their company more-so than any other person. Tell her you want to explore the subconscious of her brain and allow her to infiltrate yours. To get to know each other on a deeper level.

-Have you tried doing shrooms with her not on them? If not get an experienced friend to eat some and you two can trip sit. It will show her that nothing bad will happen and such....and yeah don't pressure her too hard, if she doesn't want todo em she's liable to experience a bad trip....




God damn that's good advice. I guess I should try booming around her beforehand to show her that it doesn't make you "crazy" or anti-social or anything terrible. I'm going to Coachella this weekend, and I'd like to boom (big time) at the festival with her this weekend... but who knows, it may or may not happen (hopefully it will). But honestly, even if she doesn't join me, I will trip during 2012's awesome Coachella lineup... especially during my fifth Radiohead show :smile: I'm sure a load of people would agree that King of Limbs is great tripping music....


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Re: Girlfriend problems with shrooms... [Re: kinkymangodance]
    #16067272 - 04/09/12 10:31 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

never push on anyone man...

u made life choices you have no idea how they will affect you down the road.

no matter what u think u know about life to be neutral or discouraging about drug use is probably the safest bet...

That way when people get fucked up by them they know they are the ones responsible and no one else.


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Re: Girlfriend problems with shrooms... [Re: kinkymangodance]
    #16067512 - 04/09/12 11:30 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

sofa_king_happy said:
Step 1) educate her
step 2) tell her tripping isnt about getting fucked up to be happy with each other. It's about being happy with each other and doing something profound together.

It's like saying i don't want to have to go out to dinner to have a great experience with you. You don't do anything together in efforts to become dependent on the activity's sole joy; You partake with said person because you enjoy their company more-so than any other person. Tell her you want to explore the subconscious of her brain and allow her to infiltrate yours. To get to know each other on a deeper level.

-Have you tried doing shrooms with her not on them? If not get an experienced friend to eat some and you two can trip sit. It will show her that nothing bad will happen and such....and yeah don't pressure her too hard, if she doesn't want todo em she's liable to experience a bad trip....




God damn that's good advice. I guess I should try booming around her beforehand to show her that it doesn't make you "crazy" or anti-social or anything terrible. I'm going to Coachella this weekend, and I'd like to boom (big time) at the festival with her this weekend... but who knows, it may or may not happen (hopefully it will). But honestly, even if she doesn't join me, I will trip during 2012's awesome Coachella lineup... especially during my fifth Radiohead show :smile: I'm sure a load of people would agree that King of Limbs is great tripping music....



I'm jelly man, have fun, the lineup is fucking sick!


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Re: Girlfriend problems with shrooms... [Re: sofa_king_happy]
    #16070478 - 04/10/12 04:14 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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sofa_king_happy said:
Step 1) educate her
step 2) tell her tripping isnt about getting fucked up to be happy with each other. It's about being happy with each other and doing something profound together.

It's like saying i don't want to have to go out to dinner to have a great experience with you. You don't do anything together in efforts to become dependent on the activity's sole joy; You partake with said person because you enjoy their company more-so than any other person. Tell her you want to explore the subconscious of her brain and allow her to infiltrate yours. To get to know each other on a deeper level.

-Have you tried doing shrooms with her not on them? If not get an experienced friend to eat some and you two can trip sit. It will show her that nothing bad will happen and such....and yeah don't pressure her too hard, if she doesn't want todo em she's liable to experience a bad trip....



This was awesome. I agree with a lot of the posters on not pushing her, but at the same time I totally understand you wanting to meet each other on another astral plane. It is definitely a deeper connection once you embark with someone you love.


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Re: Girlfriend problems with shrooms... [Re: kinkymangodance]
    #16083225 - 04/13/12 03:06 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Does she get high at all or drink?


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Re: Girlfriend problems with shrooms... [Re: SbstratAlchemist]
    #16090948 - 04/14/12 11:21 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Me bringing one of my now ex's into my shroomy world, resulted in burning about half a pound of fungus, and I haven't eaten mushrooms again since that night. If she doesn't want to do it, don't push her to do it is my best advice.

That's why I leave my post in my sig, to hopefully prevent more future burnings from girlfriend freakouts.


Edited by c1dh3d (04/15/12 12:44 AM)


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