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 Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You  [Re: blackhawk]
#15668960 - 01/15/12 12:15 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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First time I did salvia was 40x. Jumped up as soon as I saw my friends face morph and ran around in a football field at night, screaming and laughing, flailing my arms uncontrollably, spinning and what not.
See what I'm saying? You had a pulse and systolic of maybe 160 each and ran and flipped fully out of your gourd. My guess is that unless you are a tweaker thats the closest you ever came to a cardiovascular event.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#15668983 - 01/15/12 12:22 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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With average doses of tryptamines I'm still an object operating in a spatial environment, while salvinorin just absorbs everything like a vacuum. There is no room anymore.
You're right about this. I don't like that feeling.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: morrowasted]
#15668986 - 01/15/12 12:23 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Aw, but it's like spring cleaning for the soul.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Morphogenesis]
#15669011 - 01/15/12 12:29 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I try to clean mine steadily throughout the year so it never accumulates enough stuff to warrant a Spring cleaning 
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: morrowasted]
#15669019 - 01/15/12 12:31 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I try to clean mine steadily throughout the year so it never accumulates enough stuff to warrant a Spring cleaning
Good point.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Morphogenesis]
#15669022 - 01/15/12 12:32 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Lady Salvia has always been kind to me. Usually I find myself on the floor laughing hysterically when my awareness returns to my body. I understand why some folks don't care for it but I would love to get ahold of some pure Salvinorin A.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Morphogenesis]
#15669039 - 01/15/12 12:35 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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This is my favorite. It's very reminiscent of Scarling's cover art
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: CavemanJohnson]
#15669063 - 01/15/12 12:45 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I vaporized pure salvinorin A (2mg) and blacked out almost immediately. Whenever I "came to" I was at about mid-phase of the trip where self & body awareness starts to become reintegrated. This experience was particularly sinister: I was ripped apart by thousands of hands. They were the hands of all my dead relatives, and I only came back to consciousness because I wrestled from their grip. I had anxiety the remainder of the evening, with acute sensitivity to sound. I tried to turn on the shower to relax myself and the water running alone sounded like an auditorium cheering.
If you press some of the botanical vendors, they usually know how to source it.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: BothHands] 2
#15669069 - 01/15/12 12:46 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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This thread has nothing to do with 2-MeO-Ket now lol
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: blackhawk]
#15669073 - 01/15/12 12:47 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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This thread has nothing to do with 2-MeO-Ket now lol
ain't much to be said about it yet. there's some info on bluelight but that is about it.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#15669108 - 01/15/12 12:53 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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The primary difference between salvia and the tryptamines is that the "visuals" are more like visions with salvia (to my mind). I feel a part of them. It becomes an event that I'm participating in, rather than something I view on the surface that is being rendered (to use computer terms)
That's actually a really good way to put it.
I'm glad I don't experience any of these negative side affects that you guys speak of especially the physical pain. Normally I just start uncontrollably laughing while slowly slipping out of the universe.
I don't feel like I really take much away from DMT or salvia trips, normally by the time I start to wonder what the fuck is happening to me it's wearing off.
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Speak for yourself.
I'm sure there are those who believe DMT shouldn't be smoked either.
DMT is accepted by the psychedelics community, salvia almost universally rejected because of the abrasive unhelpful nature of many smoked Salvia experiences. You dont get time to adjust to it, well most of us.
Hats off to anyone that can 'adjust' to a DMT trip. I really don't know how that would even be possible.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: blackhawk] 1
#15669111 - 01/15/12 12:54 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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This thread has nothing to do with 2-MeO-Ket now lol
I actually like how the Shroomery threads flow in different directions like conversations. If biochemistry books put a titty on every other page, the world would be a lot smarter.
The "text book archive" approach to drug forums makes for quick reference, yes, but hidden in the pages of chatty aimlessness are a lot of gems if you stick around and plunder.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Morphogenesis] 2
#15669122 - 01/15/12 12:57 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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If biochemistry books put a titty on every other page, the world would be a lot smarter.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Morphogenesis]
#15669170 - 01/15/12 01:14 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Morphogenesis said:
I vaporized pure salvinorin A (2mg) and blacked out almost immediately. Whenever I "came to" I was at about mid-phase of the trip where self & body awareness starts to become reintegrated. This experience was particularly sinister: I was ripped apart by thousands of hands. They were the hands of all my dead relatives, and I only came back to consciousness because I wrestled from their grip.
Sounds very reminiscent of shamanic rituals involving dismemberment and rebirth. Salvia most defintely demands the user's respect.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: CavemanJohnson]
#15669224 - 01/15/12 01:30 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Terrence McKenna respected and hailed salvia. I've never tried it, DMT honestly scares the shit out of me if I do more than like half a tenth. I usually just like a nice body buzz and some shifty patterns on the water or something. The four times I did "get there" I was sure that I was firing because I forgot how to breathe. Back in the real world; my friends said I was fine until suddenly I started saying I did too much and I couldn't breathe. Yet I was breathing fine... Oh psychedelics, what a volatile relationship we have 
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: ilike_trees]
#15669256 - 01/15/12 01:38 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Werent you the guy who took like 20 acid hits?
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: ilike_trees]
#15669299 - 01/15/12 01:49 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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ilike_trees said:
my friends said I was fine until suddenly I started saying I did too much and I couldn't breathe. Yet I was breathing fine... Oh psychedelics, what a volatile relationship we have
In TiHKAL there's commentary from one of the group members turning blue and needing ass-to-mouth resuscitation because he stopped breathing after 5-MeO-DMT. When he came back he was ecstatic and said it was amazing though. Talk about a trooper.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Morphogenesis]
#15669329 - 01/15/12 01:54 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I'm there.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Learyfan]
#15669379 - 01/15/12 02:05 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I like to take an oral dose of salvia. Once the experience has reached it's peak, I smoke a bowl of plain leaf.
Rather than being violently ripped from this reality, it is like ascending on a gentle breeze.
I have yet to try MXE still. Maybe I'll just wait so I can get it along with this new one and compare them together.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Acaterpillar] 1
#15669675 - 01/15/12 03:16 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I have wonderful experiences with smoked salvia.
99% of people may not, but blanket statements like 'salvia should not be smoked' are definitely funny in this kinda community.
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