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Irishdrunk
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Asante]
#15668411 - 01/15/12 06:26 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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I would like to subscribe to your newsletter good sir.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Morphogenesis]
#15668425 - 01/15/12 06:33 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Why oh why am I the only one so eager to try aminorex
If this rc is anything like it's parent it's going to hit the market hard
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Beanhead]
#15668434 - 01/15/12 06:44 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Tweaking out is not all that enjoyable to most psychonauts...
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: 420Experience] 3
#15668436 - 01/15/12 06:44 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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I guess i'm a polynaut
Edited by Beanhead (01/15/12 06:45 AM)
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Asante
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Beanhead]
#15668437 - 01/15/12 06:45 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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4-FA was rather impopular for years too after its introduction, only now is it rising to big drug status. Its really not so that the best RC's automatically float to the top. They tend to, but the latency can be long.
You probably would love 2-FA. But who's ever heard of it? Not the herd.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Asante]
#15668441 - 01/15/12 06:48 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Normally I would leave the house between this and a month but my friend fucked up
I want to order some
Or I was thinking to just go with fluortoluene although i'm not certain if that'd work.
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Asante
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Beanhead]
#15668451 - 01/15/12 06:54 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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2-fluorobenzaldehyde + nitroethane, dash of anhydrous ammonium acetate to make it condense, then cook the nitrostyrene with LAH in refluxing THF.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Asante] 1
#15668620 - 01/15/12 08:24 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Speak for yourself.
I'm sure there are those who believe DMT shouldn't be smoked either.
DMT is accepted by the psychedelics community, salvia almost universally rejected because of the abrasive unhelpful nature of many smoked Salvia experiences. You dont get time to adjust to it, well most of us.
That's the point. You're not supposed to 'adjust' to anything. If you adjust to it, you're not taking enough.
Salvia doesn't tip toe around your little notions of a cute trip. "Aw, cool man, rainbow factals!" and such is left in the dust as your colon is turned inside out so the hyperdimensional squirrels can play hide and seek in your frightened little bowels.
Different strokes for different folks.
Absolutes like "don't smoke it" is akin to saying chicken soup should always be made with a certain recipe. And just because a lot of people are uncomfortable with the experience doesn't really say shit about subjective value.
A lot of men don't want to play with a penis, but that seems to be your cup of tea, eh?
Don't toss the baby out with the bath.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Morphogenesis]
#15668739 - 01/15/12 09:13 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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never seen so many metaphors in such a short post! duh
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Morphogenesis
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Hiei]
#15668756 - 01/15/12 09:18 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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In my bathroom I recently replaced Alfred Russel Wallace with a book about adages and proverbs.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Morphogenesis] 3
#15668845 - 01/15/12 09:44 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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this thread is proof that not all shroomerites are dumb
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Samuel L Jackson]
#15668860 - 01/15/12 09:47 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Wiccan_Seeker said: you';ree completely out of it while it happens so you might combine serious cardiovascular effects with that amounts to streneous exercise.
the first time i smoked salvia i thought it didnt work because i felt nothing for 30 seconds and then all of a sudden it slapped me in the face with such intensity that i jumped out of my seat.
i didnt move after that though. i was too busy looking around trying to figure out what was happening.
Holy shit, you could stand???
The first time, my body god extremely heavy and I fell out of my chair, bashing my head against my computer desk before I left this universe. All other times I have smoked it, I have also woken up as close to the ground as physics would allow.
Only smoked it three times, and that's more than enough for me. The physical pain is overwhelming.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: BothHands]
#15668877 - 01/15/12 09:49 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Samuel L Jackson said:
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Wiccan_Seeker said: you';ree completely out of it while it happens so you might combine serious cardiovascular effects with that amounts to streneous exercise.
the first time i smoked salvia i thought it didnt work because i felt nothing for 30 seconds and then all of a sudden it slapped me in the face with such intensity that i jumped out of my seat.
i didnt move after that though. i was too busy looking around trying to figure out what was happening.
Holy shit, you could stand???
The first time, my body god extremely heavy and I fell out of my chair, bashing my head against my computer desk before I left this universe. All other times I have smoked it, I have also woken up as close to the ground as physics would allow.
Only smoked it three times, and that's more than enough for me. The physical pain is overwhelming.
Exactly. It literally hurts to smoke Salvia. I feel as though every particle in my body were a grain of sand, and they are all just rubbing up against each other. I have a friend who smoked it and got up and ran and started climbing a fence, though. So I guess it's really different for different people
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: morrowasted] 1
#15668884 - 01/15/12 09:51 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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I usually get stretched, and my bones snap first, and then my skin and muscles stretch to their limits, and start tearing apart. It's like choosing to be dismembered while alive. No thanks.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: BothHands]
#15668897 - 01/15/12 09:56 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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I lost absolutely all desire to smoke Salvia after my last trip a couple of years ago. Basically I had too much and at the beginning of the trip (before it was a full blown disaster of epic proportions) I literally felt as if I'm sitting on a chair which is on a highway and there is a big truck speeding up in my direction about to splatter my brains on the asphalt.
It took me about an hour to recover
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: morrowasted]
#15668901 - 01/15/12 09:57 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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You folks who are feeling uncomfortable and thrashing about with sweaty skin and tachycardia need to smoke more concentrated extracts. There is a marked dose curve in relation to intensity and body awareness. At least in my personal experiences, the irritability and physical malaise is either on threshold doses or at the tail end of the comedown. Otherwise, with a sufficient dose, everything looks similar to this while time and place dissolve:
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Morphogenesis]
#15668924 - 01/15/12 10:05 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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First time I did salvia was 40x. Jumped up as soon as I saw my friends face morph and ran around in a football field at night, screaming and laughing, flailing my arms uncontrollably, spinning and what not.
Few weeks later, tried it again and it wasn't as fun, then 3 more times with only some but not intense CEV, then I just gave up on it and never tried again.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Morphogenesis]
#15668935 - 01/15/12 10:09 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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I mean, that's cool and all. You're probably right that I've dosed too low when I've taken it. But like... I dunno, I guess I've just taken so many psychedelics that ridiculous visuals don't appeal me that much. Especially not enough to make the physical discomfort and utter dysphoria worth it. Especially not when there are drugs like DMT that feel awesome in addition to being very psychedelic.
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: Morphogenesis]
#15668938 - 01/15/12 10:09 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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Who is that artist...
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Re: 2-MeO-Ketamine - Coming Soon to a Theater Near You [Re: morrowasted]
#15668959 - 01/15/12 10:15 AM (12 years, 2 months ago) |
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morrowasted said: I mean, that's cool and all. You're probably right that I've dosed too low when I've taken it. But like... I dunno, I guess I've just taken so many psychedelics that ridiculous visuals don't appeal me that much. Especially not enough to make the physical discomfort and utter dysphoria worth it. Especially not when there are drugs like DMT that feel awesome in addition to being very psychedelic.
I've only tried DPT, not yet DMT.
The primary difference between salvia and the tryptamines is that the "visuals" are more like visions with salvia (to my mind). I feel a part of them. It becomes an event that I'm participating in, rather than something I view on the surface that is being rendered (to use computer terms). With average doses of tryptamines I'm still an object operating in a spatial environment, while salvinorin just absorbs everything like a vacuum. There is no room anymore. That sort of complete immersion happened to me on DPT, but the body load on that - speaking of disphoria - feels like a borderline seizure (100mg+ insufflated).
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