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#15635432 - 01/08/12 02:32 PM (4 months, 18 days ago)

Hello

I was soaking rye for 35 hours, then do boiling thing for 10 min and wait around 1 hour and half to dry rye. I pc for 2 hours. Then i took the jars out from pc and rye was wet and im worried about contamination ..

what do you say ? Here i will post pic od one jar.
Maybe i soaked rye too much time ?

Thanks for any help and sorry for my bad english...

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]
#15635504 - 01/08/12 02:45 PM (4 months, 18 days ago)

I don't think soaking for too long would be a problem, (if soaked for like 72hrs without a problem!) but if the outsides of the grains didn't get dried properly after boiling it could be. I like to put a fan on them when there hot and steaming and keep moving em around.

Is that standing water in the jar, I can't really tell from the picture?

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]
#15637188 - 01/08/12 08:52 PM (4 months, 18 days ago)

I cook for 10 minutes then go outside and dump my grain on a old sheet and toss it around. Dries in few minutes.

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]
#15637202 - 01/08/12 08:55 PM (4 months, 18 days ago)

Look like it will work. Shake up before you Nick up.

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: thedoc8]
#15673635 - 01/16/12 12:22 PM (4 months, 11 days ago)

hy everybody.. small update

here is new pic from grow mycelium ..

I think that progress is very good.. but now i wanna know when is the right time to shake and how rough you must shake glass ? Please help me with that just this time :smile:

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And one more question ... i found coco coir .. here i will give you a link about out coco coir in our country..

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Please tell me if this coir + some horse + verm .. is good combination for growing and if this coco coir good for shrooms ..

i have b+ ecuador...

Thank you guys i love you :smile:

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]

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#15673865 - 01/16/12 01:26 PM (4 months, 11 days ago)

GTFO!

(Get The Foil Off!)

;0)

I am not seeing any deadly wetspots in those jars.

I cannot see that coir image too well, but it looks right
and that sub formula is a good one. (add gypsum)

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Javadog]
#15676964 - 01/17/12 06:13 AM (4 months, 10 days ago)

here is pic of coco coir in big resolution ...

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And one more question .. is horse poo from store ( compost ) good for shrooms ?

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]
#15678507 - 01/17/12 01:47 PM (4 months, 10 days ago)

anyone ??

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]
#15688214 - 01/19/12 12:02 PM (4 months, 8 days ago)

I wonder where to find polyfil ? I dont know how polyfil say in our countrey .. soo can you tell me what is polyfil and where can i buy him ?

Thanks

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]

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#15688265 - 01/19/12 12:14 PM (4 months, 8 days ago)

You will find it where fabrics are sold. It is used
to fill pillows. You can also cannibalize a pillow. ;0)

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Javadog]
#15710956 - 01/24/12 09:05 AM (4 months, 3 days ago)

i have some update ...

First jar was 100% colonized so mixed him with coir/verm .. And place him to other 2 jars on temperature 27 Celsius..

Now i am working on automatic monotub because i am not at home all time soo FAE and humidity must be automatically controlled ..

Please comment what are you think about this :smile:

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here is some pic of my monotub

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]
#15724324 - 01/27/12 09:00 AM (4 months, 4 hours ago)

Hy this is now picture of 5 days tray .. tomorow i will do another one.
Please tell me what do you think about progress .. i think it goes pretty good :smile:

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]
#15728198 - 01/28/12 03:34 AM (3 months, 30 days ago)

How long it usually takes to fully colonize ?

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]
#15728202 - 01/28/12 03:36 AM (3 months, 30 days ago)

Probably another 10 days. Patients is key to this my friend. :smile:

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: MushyMatt]
#15728213 - 01/28/12 03:42 AM (3 months, 30 days ago)

Hehe nice =) thanks

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]
#15732682 - 01/29/12 07:08 AM (3 months, 29 days ago)

Hy some small progress

I have one question .. is it ok if this tray stays with jars on 26-27 celsium ? Or it must be on lower temperature 23 ?

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]
#15733139 - 01/29/12 10:18 AM (3 months, 29 days ago)

Fans on your monotub will dry out your substrate... Id recommend a good SGFC instead. Or build a Martha setup to be fully automated...

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Big Pappa]
#15733192 - 01/29/12 10:31 AM (3 months, 29 days ago)

Soaking too long exponentially increases the likely hood of a bacterial contam. This could result in zero growth if you are going from spores to grain. Cubensis can digest a lot of bacteria, but I've found that the wet bac contaminated grains can also turn to mush/paste when you shake them.

I just leave my jars to colonize without shaking them. They'll get there. You shake them when you go from grain to grain anyways. And I use the rubbery arm rest of an office chair to shake them up.

The synthetic pillows work fine as a polyfil substitute. I got a big ass pillow from the dump that I use.

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: maug]
#15734118 - 01/29/12 02:04 PM (3 months, 28 days ago)

I will have perlit on the bottom of monotub and setup of fanning and humidifinding will go like : 6 times a day for 2 min. of humidity and 5min of fanning .. I think that RH and FAE will be ok...

I am just wonder if temperature where tray stays is too high ( 26,27 celsium ) ?

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]
#15737210 - 01/30/12 07:09 AM (3 months, 28 days ago)

I have question .. Do i have to put trays in fruiting chamber while colonozation to stay in high RH ?? Beacuse there is no progress at all :/

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]
#15737232 - 01/30/12 07:22 AM (3 months, 28 days ago)

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I have question .. Do i have to put trays in fruiting chamber while colonozation to stay in high RH ?? Beacuse there is no progress at all :/

I wouldn't do that if I were you. The more you mess with a colonizing sub the more problems you run into. Be patient and try not to look at it so much. FAE to soon will really mess with your colonization not to mention cause contams.

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: toad_the_shroomist]
#15737309 - 01/30/12 07:57 AM (3 months, 28 days ago)

Here http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7835934#7835934
It says that Do not incubate bulk substrate trays at temperatures over 72F
This type substrate will generate a LOT of heat internally;
As it colonizes.

Is this true ? :/

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: toad_the_shroomist]
#15737408 - 01/30/12 08:43 AM (3 months, 28 days ago)

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I have question .. Do i have to put trays in fruiting chamber while colonozation to stay in high RH ?? Beacuse there is no progress at all :/

I wouldn't do that if I were you. The more you mess with a colonizing sub the more problems you run into. Be patient and try not to look at it so much. FAE to soon will really mess with your colonization not to mention cause contams.

Word. You just spent all that time adjusting for moisture content. It should have 99% humidity too, because it will be covered and only allowing for a small amount of gas exchange. Once it's exposed to FAE it can loose some moisture, and the mushrooms pull even more out of the substrate. That's when you mist.

I have heard users say that the temperature increase is not very significant. I have never tested it. Molds and bacteria will benefit from the increase in temperature more than cubensis would benefit, but the cubensis will easily survive higher temps and temp swings. If you have a mold, I hear it's a good idea to lower the temp to around 60 and give it as much fae as possible by sticking it outside. There's a lot to be said for being as clean as possible, limiting exposure (like don't work on the floor and washing your hands), and working in a rhythm to get it over quickly.

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: maug]
#15751646 - 02/02/12 12:01 PM (3 months, 25 days ago)

Here is 10 day tray .. Is this good or slow .. sub is coco and verm + cubensis ecuador b+ ..

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]
#15751712 - 02/02/12 12:21 PM (3 months, 25 days ago)

That looks fine for 10 days.

You did expose it just a tad early though.

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Javadog]
#15766565 - 02/05/12 09:45 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

Hy this is second tray ater 5 days ...
Could you tell my if is this good or no .. thanks

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]
#15766649 - 02/05/12 10:04 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

I think it looks good :thumbup:

but what do i know lol

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: zepski]
#15767103 - 02/06/12 02:06 AM (3 months, 21 days ago)

That looks really good imo. Nice aggressive growth, and it's well on it's way to full colonization.

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]
#15767377 - 02/06/12 06:11 AM (3 months, 21 days ago)

Thanks for reply =) i will be sharing this grown with you =)

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]
#15768260 - 02/06/12 12:04 PM (3 months, 21 days ago)

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Hy this is second tray ater 5 days ...
Could you tell my if is this good or no .. thanks

Look man, you'll have far less problems if you just wait 10 days before you look at it at all. Be patient and let it do its job.

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: toad_the_shroomist]
#15772767 - 02/07/12 07:30 AM (3 months, 20 days ago)

hey here is picture with this tray

Is this good ? I think it is very fuzzy ...

And here is first tray .. which is 14 days old

I think that second tray is not good and i will destroy it ..

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]
#15773095 - 02/07/12 08:58 AM (3 months, 20 days ago)

I still say they look fine. why do you keep exposing them to FAE?

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: zepski]
#15773114 - 02/07/12 09:02 AM (3 months, 20 days ago)

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I still say they look fine. why do you keep exposing them to FAE?

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Swwert]
#15773133 - 02/07/12 09:06 AM (3 months, 20 days ago)

Beacuse i wanna know progress is done ... i expose them just for sec . ...

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]
#15773151 - 02/07/12 09:10 AM (3 months, 20 days ago)

Invest in clear lids or use sarahn wrap with hole poked in it. Just saying. I did the same thing when i started the wait is murder

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: zepski]
#15773554 - 02/07/12 11:00 AM (3 months, 20 days ago)

The need to be able to build up co2 so that they can put it in the ground. It's part of how they break down the substrate and get their minerals. Put some saran wrap over it if you need to see it. I'd do that next time tho. For now, leave it alone for 10 days.

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: maug]
#15773785 - 02/07/12 12:01 PM (3 months, 20 days ago)

Thanks guys .. i bought plastic tray with cover yesterday...
I appreciate your help

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]
#15802735 - 02/13/12 11:32 AM (3 months, 14 days ago)

update ..
How much % is colonized ?
I am worried about red circle ... is it possible to be a contamination ?
I have the tray on 27 celsium .. is that too much ?
thanks for any help

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]
#15803678 - 02/13/12 02:48 PM (3 months, 13 days ago)

27 C = 80 F. which is fine but you do know they are fine at normal room temps (i know my house is never 80F usually closer to 74F (23C) or 70F (21C) But im a fat ass and dont like it hot.

As for the red circle it looks like mycel piss. But please wait for someone to agree before you take my words for fact :smile:

Id say that is 100% maybe a a little less how long has it been looking like that? Cause u should let it consolidate a few days it will guarantee you are at 100% and it will make it so it doesnt have to sit in the FC while it consolidates.

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: zepski]
#15837016 - 02/20/12 09:38 AM (3 months, 7 days ago)

Is this contimination ???

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]
#15837368 - 02/20/12 11:23 AM (3 months, 7 days ago)

anyone ?

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: Matej]
#15837552 - 02/20/12 12:08 PM (3 months, 7 days ago)

Metabolites. It's not necessarily a response to mold.

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: maug]
#15838471 - 02/20/12 03:27 PM (3 months, 6 days ago)

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Metabolites. It's not necessarily a response to mold.

Agreed. If it's fully colonized and consolidated though, the best way to tell is to smell it. If it's no good, you will know for contaminated jars smell like sour death. Here's some info click.

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Re: Is rye to wet ? please help [Re: toad_the_shroomist]
#15838481 - 02/20/12 03:30 PM (3 months, 6 days ago)

The smell test is something you should do, but it doesn't give you 100% certainty. Humans can not smell a masked smell. If there's mold but the smell of mushrooms is stronger, you will smell mushroom.

Fun fact:
Dogs aren't like that, which is why they can smell pot in gas tanks.

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