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Re: Marino's legacy is fading fast... [Re: CatWrangler69]
    #15632507 - 01/07/12 09:14 PM (4 months, 19 days ago)

no, im just saying that when on the road, whatever mild wind conditions there are, can be just as easily offset as a loud stadium.

your stats dont support anything. you say brees throws more INTs, or has a worse completion percentage.... well why did he just break the playoff record tonight? that was a fluke because he was in a stadium right? especially alongside one of those other QBs that passed for 5k yards.

swallow my stats bitch.


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Re: Marino's legacy is fading fast... [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #15633713 - 01/08/12 05:17 AM (4 months, 19 days ago)

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you say brees throws more INTs, or has a worse completion percentage....






Because he has, you idiot.


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Re: Marino's legacy is fading fast... [Re: SneezingPenis] * 1
    #15691091 - 01/20/12 12:27 AM (4 months, 7 days ago)

Yup, Brees sure played better outdoors...


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Re: Marino's legacy is fading fast... [Re: CatWrangler69]
    #15693945 - 01/20/12 03:47 PM (4 months, 6 days ago)

i really dont think it is tho bc the rules back in the 80s were way different than they are now

with all these new rules throwing for 5k yards a season wont be out of the question for at least 1 or 2 QBs a year

everyone remembers it was a different game back when marino did it


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Re: Marino's legacy is fading fast... [Re: Bassfreak]
    #15695773 - 01/20/12 11:17 PM (4 months, 6 days ago)

That's what SneezingPenis seemed to have struggled to get through his brain.


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Re: Marino's legacy is fading fast... [Re: CatWrangler69]
    #15696005 - 01/21/12 12:58 AM (4 months, 6 days ago)

Fuck 5k throwing yards was achieved by almost 4 qbs this year

DB`s can even pop the fuck out of a reciever after the catch with the current rules

Another thing is all the pussy ass roughing the qb flags thrown on regular everyday borderline sacks.

Its the pussification of the NFL mainly because of the concussion law suits that the NFL has been dealing with lately.


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Re: Marino's legacy is fading fast... [Re: CatWrangler69]
    #15704064 - 01/22/12 07:10 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

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Yup, Brees sure played better outdoors...




yeah, breaking more records proves your point right?


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Re: Marino's legacy is fading fast... [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #15704108 - 01/22/12 07:18 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

Way to ignore his QB rating.


Don't worry though, the Saints will be bound for another title run...if they get to play indoors the whole way.


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Re: Marino's legacy is fading fast... [Re: CatWrangler69]
    #15704330 - 01/22/12 08:05 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

you are right. 462 yards in an away game against a top defense... anyone can do that.

have you given up on your argument, or are you just trying to change the discussion to a QB rating that has absolutely nothing to do with breaking an all time passing record?


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Re: Marino's legacy is fading fast... [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #15704384 - 01/22/12 08:20 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

You're really too stupid to realize the Niners had a middle ranked passing defense.


But nice try though.


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Re: Marino's legacy is fading fast... [Re: CatWrangler69]
    #15704797 - 01/22/12 09:44 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

yeah, and the other 5k passers this year played even lower ranked passing defense than the 9ers and didnt even come within 100 yards of Brees in the playoffs.

also, I never said the 9ers were a top passing defense, but they are a top overall defense.

also, if being outside was such a huge disadvantage to Brees, why did the 9ers feel it necessary to soak the field?

and lets not forget that he only threw for 4 yards more a week before in the dome.


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Re: Marino's legacy is fading fast... [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #15705061 - 01/22/12 10:41 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

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also, I never said the 9ers were a top passing defense, but they are a top overall defense.




You were still trying to use it as an excuse as to why he didn't perform as well.  I just pointed out the bullshit behind your argument.


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and lets not forget that he only threw for 4 yards more a week before in the dome.





And how many more attempts did he need?  Way to ignore that stat.


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Re: Marino's legacy is fading fast... [Re: CatWrangler69]
    #15705119 - 01/22/12 10:56 PM (4 months, 4 days ago)

do you really fail to see the hole in your argument? I have proven time and time again that when it comes to yardage, Brees is not affected by his external conditions in any way that mathematically change him being the current 1 season passing leader.

you can cite QBR and number of throws all you want, but it has absolutely no bearing on the stone cold stats of his yardage. If it was relevant, then I could easily argue that a field maliciously made soggy slows receivers down therefor making less yardage on reception and YAC.

I have agreed that Bree's overall stats decline somewhat when in non dome places (even though they do not show any standard deviation to support a different record setter), but his yardage stays the same, if not actually does better. that is the only stat that matters in this discussion. so go back to harping on rule changes or something, because that at least has relevance.


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Re: Marino's legacy is fading fast... [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #15705442 - 01/23/12 12:09 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

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do you really fail to see the hole in your argument? I have proven time and time again that when it comes to yardage, Brees is not affected by his external conditions in any way that mathematically change him being the current 1 season passing leader.

you can cite QBR and number of throws all you want, but it has absolutely no bearing on the stone cold stats of his yardage. If it was relevant, then I could easily argue that a field maliciously made soggy slows receivers down therefor making less yardage on reception and YAC.






So a significantly decreased completion percentage isn't relevant?  Did you forget this whole discussion stemmed from your stupid claims that Brees doesn't benefit from playing indoors?


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Re: Marino's legacy is fading fast... [Re: CatWrangler69]
    #15705535 - 01/23/12 12:33 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

when it comes to yardage, brees does better outdoors. that is the statistical fact.

if we are arguing that brees only broke marinos record because he plays indoors, then that statement is bunk if you look at his yardage statistics.

its that simple. but let me get this straight. when brees has a worse game, its because of the conditions... but when brady, marino, rodgers, or stafford does bad, its because of what again?


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Re: Marino's legacy is fading fast... [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #15705658 - 01/23/12 01:19 AM (4 months, 4 days ago)

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when it comes to yardage, brees does better outdoors. that is the statistical fact.

if we are arguing that brees only broke marinos record because he plays indoors, then that statement is bunk if you look at his yardage statistics.






Total yardage isn't the soul measure of a QB's performance.


Again, his completion percentage, QB rating, and TD/INT ratio all DROP SIGNIFICANTLY when he plays outdoors.



Jeez you're stupid.


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Re: Marino's legacy is fading fast... [Re: CatWrangler69]
    #15708045 - 01/23/12 04:35 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

drop significantly is a little much... but it has no bearing on whether or not he legitimately broke marino's YARDAGE record. we arent discussing all of the other records he broke. you would have a legitimate complaint regarding completion %, but there is no mathematical way you can say he wouldnt still be the single season yardage holder.


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Re: Marino's legacy is fading fast... [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #15708179 - 01/23/12 05:06 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

He broke the passing records because they changed the rules drastically to benefit the passing game.  He is a great QB.  So is Marino.  You are on the other hand are a fanboy tard.


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Re: Marino's legacy is fading fast... [Re: zappaisgod]
    #15708798 - 01/23/12 07:08 PM (4 months, 3 days ago)

Big time tard.


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