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giza

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To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here.
#15598380 - 12/31/11 05:48 PM (4 months, 26 days ago)

Okay... Since you dedicated part your life to Psychology, why don't you take it to the next level. Go to a major city and walk the streets for a few hours, so you can really observe and experience how it works on that level. If you're scared... well, start out in smaller cities and build your way up to the bigger cities, but... Must warn you, the larger cities are alot more safe than the smaller ones, or am I lying? That's for you to find out.

Oh, and if you think I'd give you a challenge before walking it myself.. Let me tell you what I did.

I went to the closest city to me and walked the streets for days, went homeless... walked around my city throwing up a gang sign with the wrong colors on, seeing if they were on top of their game. Didn't happen, so I bought some Red clothing, and walked around yet again, and now I'm King of what I wanted, within a matter of days.

Now let's see how much you are really into Psychology.

Instructions... Make sure you follow your feelings, trust yourself.
- Look everyone you cross in their eyes.
- If you feel as if they are disrespecting you, stand there and stare at them.
- If you see someone else doing the same, when they turn their back, turn yours.
- - Do this until they get out of view.
- You must be real with the other real people.
- Cop goes by? Stare at them, then watch their back as I said above.
- - If they're looking North, Look south and so on...

Now... If you're extremely into Psychology...
Go homeless. No money at all is allowed.

- Never take more than you need, learn to trust life.
- They will give you as much as you need, and you will learn this.
- If you want to smoke a cig but have no money, pick one up off the street.

Edited by giza (12/31/11 05:50 PM)

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]

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#15599112 - 12/31/11 09:31 PM (4 months, 26 days ago)

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"The man with the clear head is the man who frees himself from those fantastic ideas (the characterological lie about reality) and looks life in the face, realizes that everything in it is problematic, and feels lost. And this is the simple truth - that to live is to feel lost - he who accepts it has already begun to find himself, to be on firm ground. Instinctively, as do the shipwrecked, he will look round for something to which to cling, and that tragic, ruthless glance, absolutely sincere, because it is a question of his salvation, will cause him to bring order into the chaos of his life. These are the only genuine ideas; the ideas of the shipwrecked." - Ernest Becker

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]
#15599164 - 12/31/11 09:45 PM (4 months, 26 days ago)

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giza said:
Okay... Since you dedicated part your life to Psychology, why don't you take it to the next level. Go to a major city and walk the streets for a few hours, so you can really observe and experience how it works on that level. If you're scared... well, start out in smaller cities and build your way up to the bigger cities, but... Must warn you, the larger cities are alot more safe than the smaller ones, or am I lying? That's for you to find out.

Oh, and if you think I'd give you a challenge before walking it myself.. Let me tell you what I did.

I went to the closest city to me and walked the streets for days, went homeless... walked around my city throwing up a gang sign with the wrong colors on, seeing if they were on top of their game. Didn't happen, so I bought some Red clothing, and walked around yet again, and now I'm King of what I wanted, within a matter of days.

Now let's see how much you are really into Psychology.

Instructions... Make sure you follow your feelings, trust yourself.
- Look everyone you cross in their eyes.
- If you feel as if they are disrespecting you, stand there and stare at them.
- If you see someone else doing the same, when they turn their back, turn yours.
- - Do this until they get out of view.
- You must be real with the other real people.
- Cop goes by? Stare at them, then watch their back as I said above.
- - If they're looking North, Look south and so on...

Now... If you're extremely into Psychology...
Go homeless. No money at all is allowed.

- Never take more than you need, learn to trust life.
- They will give you as much as you need, and you will learn this.
- If you want to smoke a cig but have no money, pick one up off the street.

Umm...

Balance is the key my friend.

Time to head back towards the light before you fall off the deep end.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: thecake]
#15599590 - 01/01/12 01:05 AM (4 months, 26 days ago)

All the homeless I've spoken to, which relatively is quite a lot, have always been overjoyed with the hugs and companionship offered. The vast majority have also been very psychologically unstable, speaking in riddles at best. The saner ones speak of traumas, cuts, wounds, drugs and dying.

One school mate who I knew had lived a rough life growing up turned out traveling the rails. Talked with him after he was MIA for a few years. Said he always packed a knife but never once needed to use it. Said people are generally more afraid than aggressive. He did get arrested a few times though and will not be visiting those states again due to what the law would do to him if they caught him there. Not sure what happened next for the fella but I don't think he will continue that lifestyle if he can help it.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]

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#15599793 - 01/01/12 03:38 AM (4 months, 26 days ago)

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giza said:
Okay... Since you dedicated part your life to Psychology, why don't you take it to the next level. Go to a major city and walk the streets for a few hours, so you can really observe and experience how it works on that level. If you're scared... well, start out in smaller cities and build your way up to the bigger cities, but... Must warn you, the larger cities are alot more safe than the smaller ones, or am I lying? That's for you to find out.

Oh, and if you think I'd give you a challenge before walking it myself.. Let me tell you what I did.

I went to the closest city to me and walked the streets for days, went homeless... walked around my city throwing up a gang sign with the wrong colors on, seeing if they were on top of their game. Didn't happen, so I bought some Red clothing, and walked around yet again, and now I'm King of what I wanted, within a matter of days.

Now let's see how much you are really into Psychology.

Instructions... Make sure you follow your feelings, trust yourself.
- Look everyone you cross in their eyes.
- If you feel as if they are disrespecting you, stand there and stare at them.
- If you see someone else doing the same, when they turn their back, turn yours.
- - Do this until they get out of view.
- You must be real with the other real people.
- Cop goes by? Stare at them, then watch their back as I said above.
- - If they're looking North, Look south and so on...

Now... If you're extremely into Psychology...
Go homeless. No money at all is allowed.

- Never take more than you need, learn to trust life.
- They will give you as much as you need, and you will learn this.
- If you want to smoke a cig but have no money, pick one up off the street.

Sounds like "go into therapy" to me..

Most psychologists worth their true salt would have gone into the desert and touch on some deeply scary places in developing their shield to transference.

Im not fully qualified yet, but have experienced something similar to what you're saying.. and the results can be life enhancing.. or they just scare people away.. I thinks academic psychologists are stuck in some autistic scientific methods game because they were either piss poor at human relationships or challenges like yours scared the hell outta them.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: hoodbran]
#15599809 - 01/01/12 03:56 AM (4 months, 26 days ago)

Actually I think this is a great idea coming from this nutcase giza.

Go out and do what you are talking about giza, you think you wont get shot if you stare down a mexican cartel member?

Or atleast followed for weeks?

Go try it.

Edited by thecake (01/01/12 03:57 AM)

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giza

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: thecake]
#15600205 - 01/01/12 08:10 AM (4 months, 26 days ago)

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thecake said:
Actually I think this is a great idea coming from this nutcase giza.

Go out and do what you are talking about giza, you think you wont get shot if you stare down a mexican cartel member?

Or atleast followed for weeks?

Go try it.

I have... for days... I have yet to go to Africa then Mexico... Fear is weakness, and if dogs can smell it, so can humans. I held gang sign up for an hour walking around on the 2 main streets in and out of the city, I've gotten stared down once and that wasn't even in the city, I yelled with my thought and flexed up and the guy backed down and he was the one that ended up watching MY back. I just leased an apartment in the heart of this city so I can do this everyday, it is addicting and gives a high.

I've done this in a KKK town as well, wearing my colors. Nothing happened. I'm part African and have mainly African/Egyptian features, I even went to their spot when I was 19 screaming and spitting on their door, and standing in their parking lot, and not ONE came out. I am not scared of any Man or Woman. Doesn't Psychology teach that if you fear something you are holding yourself back?

I practice this everyday, everytime I'm out around people, it works if you have no fear.

I am proving that Death Anxiety does not apply to all individuals, and practices like this help prove it wrong.

I wouldn't present a challenge if I didn't go through it.

Edited by giza (01/01/12 08:18 AM)

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giza

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: thecake]
#15600315 - 01/01/12 08:36 AM (4 months, 26 days ago)

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thecake said:
Actually I think this is a great idea coming from this nutcase giza.

Go out and do what you are talking about giza, you think you wont get shot if you stare down a mexican cartel member?

Or atleast followed for weeks?

Go try it.

It's not about staring them down completely it's only when necessary, you MUST use your natural instinct to know when to stop looking and when to keep on, it's a test of the mind.

Oh.. and have you ever came across a Mexican cartel member and stared at them until you got shot? Uhhh? If not, how would you know if you'd get shot or not? Hrmm?

Edited by giza (01/01/12 08:38 AM)

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]
#15600576 - 01/01/12 09:57 AM (4 months, 26 days ago)

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giza said:

I am proving that Death Anxiety does not apply to all individuals, and practices like this help prove it wrong.

One could argue that you're doing this out of death anxiety. :wink:

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All this time I've loved you
And never known your face
All this time I've missed you
And searched this human race
Here is true peace
Here my heart knows calm
Safe in your soul
Bathed in your sighs
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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: MushroomTrip]
#15600647 - 01/01/12 10:11 AM (4 months, 26 days ago)

It's because of my lust for power, I have no fear of death.

Edited by giza (01/01/12 10:14 AM)

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]
#15600666 - 01/01/12 10:15 AM (4 months, 26 days ago)

And where do you think that lust from power comes in the first place, Sherlock? :sherlock:

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giza

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: MushroomTrip]
#15600692 - 01/01/12 10:22 AM (4 months, 26 days ago)

The fear others have. There is no such thing as death, therefore no such thing as death anxiety, only fear of starting over.

Edited by giza (01/01/12 10:22 AM)

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]
#15600730 - 01/01/12 10:30 AM (4 months, 26 days ago)

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The fear others have.

Let's suppose, for the sake of the argument, that this statement is true and not full of crap.
The fear others have must get to you in some way or another, otherwise you wouldn;t do stuff because of it.

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There is no such thing as death, therefore no such thing as death anxiety, only fear of starting over.

That's just mumble until proven contrary.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: MushroomTrip]
#15600749 - 01/01/12 10:34 AM (4 months, 26 days ago)

Death as the end is mumble until proven contrary as well, by that logic.

Fear is a drug, and I am addicted.

Edited by giza (01/01/12 10:35 AM)

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]
#15600787 - 01/01/12 10:41 AM (4 months, 26 days ago)

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giza said:
It's not about staring them down completely it's only when necessary, you MUST use your natural instinct to know when to stop looking and when to keep on, it's a test of the mind.

So what would be different if you stared them down completely? Wouldn't that be an even better test of the mind?

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]
#15600843 - 01/01/12 10:57 AM (4 months, 26 days ago)

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giza said:
Death as the end is mumble until proven contrary as well, by that logic.

It has already been proven, give it a read. :haha:

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: Rhizoid]
#15600909 - 01/01/12 11:11 AM (4 months, 26 days ago)

@Rhizoid - I do, I follow my instinct, not all of these beings have the confidence to have a stare down with me, you must trust your instinct, not your fear if you have it.

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giza said:
Death as the end is mumble until proven contrary as well, by that logic.

It has already been proven, give it a read.

I do not read, good try though... and it has not been proven, death as the end is nothing but a theory. :haha:

Edited by giza (01/01/12 11:13 AM)

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]
#15601222 - 01/01/12 12:44 PM (4 months, 26 days ago)

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I do not read

That explains it.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]
#15603618 - 01/01/12 10:37 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

Enjoyed it, will invoke the most powerful being in existence for a stare down tonight when I dream. It'll be more real that way, more mind less matter.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: PowerPlants]
#15604521 - 01/02/12 08:25 AM (4 months, 25 days ago)

Dreams are the 'safe' way, the next level is the physical world, that's where you're truly tested.

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#15604538 - 01/02/12 08:27 AM (4 months, 25 days ago)

GAZA; I want to know, in what ways where you "the king of what you want" when you wore red on the streets. Was it the same streets and within the same month as where you didn't ware colors and flashed gang signs?

I like psychology too, in an armchair/bartender/gay friend kinda way. But I get more mileage off reading stuff then seeing if humans go by such guidelines. Not so much by putting myself in the middle like a kung-fu Freud dude. (master jun-fru-ab-lew) ((keith ablow one of the newer names in pop-psychology)

Also what IS that test of the mind you are talking about? Is it a study of tension-breaking/intensity? I sometimes observe that in a volatile situation...just before someone makes that first move... it seems that if there where no move, both parties might have walked away.

Meh, I dont know I would also qualify as one of those with terrible interpersonal skills.

Oh and I think I agree with Mushroom trip, you constantly try to challenge and use the mechanics of fear because you do have fear. You walk up to death because it challenges death fear.

Basically for example, one fears being dead, because it cannot conceive of being not-ness. Since one cant deal with death fear, one builds other shells of fear to cushion death. Meaning one can fear dieing in a bloody murder.
But in the back of one's mind , it can be aware that most fear is illusion and most circumstances dont play out as one fears. There is alittle play room... alittle death-fear roulette.

I imagine you are playing little games with other people's fear. And then convincing yourself that you have no fear, simply because they retreat before you do. Thats like ego. You use what you fear to be more powerful that those who fear more than you.

Anyway. Just trying to join a conversation, got me a fear of self expression i am challenging.

LOL
DD

PS. What does building a shield against transference mean? How does one do that. And I guess I misunderstood transference, I thought it was more of a patient to doctor thing. I didnt understand that is may happen the other way around. May someone clarify my understanding?

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: DharmaDomina]
#15604611 - 01/02/12 08:46 AM (4 months, 25 days ago)

It was the same week... Reading is safe, experience is not. You must have Death anxiety.

It is a test of ego, it will make or break your ego. You observe the situation, but are you ever in the situation? Doesn't a true student put himself in the experience so that he may observe it first hand??

There you are, analyzing text, take a walk with me and you'd think very different. Maybe I'll make a video of walking up and down the street, would you like that?

And that is your imagination, just to let you know. And... fearing first, then breaking down/understanding the fear, then creates no fear, maybe you should try it sometime. See you're mistake is trying to treat me as a patient, telling me that I am this and I am that, only I know what are MY limits, which are none.

You can try to tell me how I am, sure, go ahead. but I lead, I do not follow. Sorry but, baby, you don't know a thing about me.

Edited by giza (01/02/12 08:56 AM)

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]
#15604717 - 01/02/12 09:12 AM (4 months, 25 days ago)

I intended no such thing. I was trying to explain my crude understanding in the effort of being corrected.

My death anxiety is more to due with method of dieing. I think i know my mind well enough to not permit "hell", so if there is an other life i am not afraid of it. If there is nothing at all. Well may our speculations being merry and bright. I intend to be writing a book about the experience of dieing as i leave the world. Zthink that would be cool.

Sometimes i wonder what the wisdom is in eradicating all fear. When does fear become true self protection/instinct. On some days I'd like to stroll with you, on others i am far to paranoid and would mess up your thing.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: DharmaDomina]
#15604747 - 01/02/12 09:20 AM (4 months, 25 days ago)

Well method of dying is usually because of fear of pain or suffering, when you have no fear of hell you wouldn't care either way if you were going or not. The MAIN wisdom of eradicating all fear IS IF you are spiritual, you fear God, or Satan, once you fear neither of them, you then begin eradicating all fear you have. You must address your fear to overcome it, if you don't it will always be there. Put yourself in situations in which you fear, to overcome it.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]
#15604966 - 01/02/12 10:32 AM (4 months, 25 days ago)

The ultimate end of fear must come through stillness. When one has fear, one questions how to rid oneself of it. When the realization comes that our thoughts can change our feelings, after a little practice complete control comes.

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#15605269 - 01/02/12 11:47 AM (4 months, 25 days ago)

thats very interesting what you are doing!

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]
#15605374 - 01/02/12 12:04 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

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Well method of dying is usually because of fear of pain or suffering, when you have no fear of hell you wouldn't care either way if you were going or not. The MAIN wisdom of eradicating all fear IS IF you are spiritual, you fear God, or Satan, once you fear neither of them, you then begin eradicating all fear you have. You must address your fear to overcome it, if you don't it will always be there. Put yourself in situations in which you fear, to overcome it.

Absolutely right on confronting ones' fears, but care and caution is required here. Fears still work as a warning mechanism to show you possible harms to yourself.
But one learns to know the origin of possible harm only through confronting fear, right.

Btw, hell just even only could be a reflection of the reality in which we are surrounded. Or, turned around, the physical reality we are surrounded now, could even show up as a propriety of hell. Isn't there no 'spiritual' way out of it here ? :cool:

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And death shall have no dominion............................................................."Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]
#15605451 - 01/02/12 12:19 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

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I hope this is the dark part of the night which is generally just before day.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: yeah]
#15605499 - 01/02/12 12:30 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

Spirituality is nothing but a defense mechanism, an escape from current conditions, a delusion that was created to TRY and ease the minds of the conflicted, made to make people believe there's a higher state of being they can delve into without little work on themselves. Thinking that if they follow a certain set of standards they will then be able to do what they want, and that their mistakes will go unpunished.

Heaven and Hell are just mere adjectives.

Edited by giza (01/02/12 12:32 PM)

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]

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#15605666 - 01/02/12 01:05 PM (4 months, 25 days ago)

I have no clue what this is about

looks like you want some attention :tongue2:

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]
#15606253 - 01/02/12 03:10 PM (4 months, 24 days ago)

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Spirituality is nothing but a defense mechanism, an escape from current conditions, a delusion that was created to TRY and ease the minds of the conflicted, made to make people believe there's a higher state of being they can delve into without little work on themselves. Thinking that if they follow a certain set of standards they will then be able to do what they want, and that their mistakes will go unpunished.

Heaven and Hell are just mere adjectives.

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I hope this is the dark part of the night which is generally just before day.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: yeah]
#15606356 - 01/02/12 03:33 PM (4 months, 24 days ago)

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yeah said:
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giza said:
Spirituality is nothing but a defense mechanism, an escape from current conditions, a delusion that was created to TRY and ease the minds of the conflicted, made to make people believe there's a higher state of being they can delve into without little work on themselves. Thinking that if they follow a certain set of standards they will then be able to do what they want, and that their mistakes will go unpunished.

Heaven and Hell are just mere adjectives.

Wow, did you make that all by yourself?

Edited by giza (01/02/12 03:34 PM)

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]

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#15608910 - 01/03/12 03:50 AM (4 months, 24 days ago)

Hi Giza,

With regards to your thread title I feel that your enquiry has little to do with the actual discipline of psychology. Psychology is concerned with mind, brain and behaviour and relies on facts and empirical data to validate theories. The psycho-analytic and introspective aspects of the human experience popularised in pop-psych books are largely discredited by informed scholars. This does not mean that myself and others who follow the psychology discipline are living in ivory towers as we are what you call 'scientific-practitioners' and that successful theories have to conform to objective realities.

I honestly don't see what the use of your exercise is for and I hope you don't me saying this but your writing appears to suggest a schizoid temperament. I have done similar things in the past including staying up for 6 days as a "mental test" to prove I could do it. I didn't feel any wiser afterwards and looking back I think I was naive although it was an interesting challenge.

Your gazing behaviour, to an outside observer would make you appear aggressive and dominating. I'm not sure if are you attempting to emulate a 'fight club' mentality? What does real life trolling accomplish except for a smug, illusory, fleeting feeling of superiority?

Reach out to your fellow man and avoid distancing yourself, what if you smiled and said hello to strangers? I think you would be more happier that way,

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: sonar]
#15608927 - 01/03/12 04:00 AM (4 months, 24 days ago)

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sonar said:
Hi Giza,

With regards to your thread title I feel that your enquiry has little to do with the actual discipline of psychology. Psychology is concerned with mind, brain and behaviour and relies on facts and empirical data to validate theories. The psycho-analytic and introspective aspects of the human experience popularised in pop-psych books are largely discredited by informed scholars. This does not mean that myself and others who follow the psychology discipline are living in ivory towers as we are what you call 'scientific-practitioners' and that successful theories have to conform to objective realities.

I honestly don't see what the use of your exercise is for and I hope you don't me saying this but your writing appears to suggest a schizoid temperament. I have done similar things in the past including staying up for 6 days as a "mental test" to prove I could do it. I didn't feel any wiser afterwards and looking back I think I was naive although it was an interesting challenge.

Your gazing behaviour, to an outside observer would make you appear aggressive and dominating. I'm not sure if are you attempting to emulate a 'fight club' mentality? What does real life trolling accomplish except for a smug, illusory, fleeting feeling of superiority?

Reach out to your fellow man and avoid distancing yourself, what if you smiled and said hello to strangers? I think you would be more happier that way,

peace.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: MushroomTrip]
#15608970 - 01/03/12 04:32 AM (4 months, 24 days ago)

yeah to me it seems like your just building your ego to "have no fear" and now it seems your taking it to the next level by seeming dominating by playing little games in your head. Of course no one wants to just randomly stare down someone on the street staring at them. these are all just silly little games that make you feel powerful.

would you say you fear being weak?

Seriously get your ass FUCKING KICKED man. its not hard to actually do if you aren't full of fear like you say. like go up into a ghetto ass neighborhood and get jumped by a bunch of niggers. you might die.

or are you afraid?

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]

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#15609001 - 01/03/12 04:53 AM (4 months, 24 days ago)

Isn't this a bit more sociology?

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#15609018 - 01/03/12 04:59 AM (4 months, 24 days ago)

He doesn't read so he doesn't know the difference. :lol:

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: LittleDipster]
#15610202 - 01/03/12 11:57 AM (4 months, 24 days ago)

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LittleDipster said:
yeah to me it seems like your just building your ego to "have no fear" and now it seems your taking it to the next level by seeming dominating by playing little games in your head. Of course no one wants to just randomly stare down someone on the street staring at them. these are all just silly little games that make you feel powerful.

would you say you fear being weak?

Seriously get your ass FUCKING KICKED man. its not hard to actually do if you aren't full of fear like you say. like go up into a ghetto ass neighborhood and get jumped by a bunch of niggers. you might die.

or are you afraid?

Bunch of Niggers huh? Let's see you go out in public do around of bunch of ghetto 'niggers' and tell them they are a bunch of 'niggers'. You're better off playing psycological warfare behind a computer screen, maybe we should meet.

This challenge is meant to defeat your fears of the physical world, if you don't have the balls for it, then don't do it and keep cowering behind your computer screen, stay small huni.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]
#15613104 - 01/03/12 10:22 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

You completely missed my point.

how is this defeating your fears of the physical world?

I didnt mean to offend you, I just figured since you had no fear of the physical world you wouldn't be afraid to get physically hurt. I would never do something like that because I do have fear, its part of the human experience.

saying "I dont have the balls to do it" and "stay small huni" makes it obvious you have built a big ego for yourself. You fail to see that you aren't special or "fearless". theres plenty of people out there that would kick the shit out of you. just maybe for whatever reason, you may be big and intimidating and the average person doesn't want to get into a conflict.

so answer my question, are you afraid of being weak and powerless??

By the way my definition of niggers isn't just black people, its the ones that are gang banging, and a complete leech to society. theres plenty of white "niggers" too.

..and also if "littleshitster" is a refrence to me in your sig, you are very immature.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: LittleDipster]

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#15613270 - 01/03/12 10:59 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

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LittleDipster said:
Seriously get your ass FUCKING KICKED man. its not hard to actually do if you aren't full of fear like you say. like go up into a ghetto ass neighborhood and get jumped by a bunch of niggers. you might die.

or are you afraid?

Giza-

LD has raised a good point here.

Going out and doing the chest puffing thing is a good start I suppose, but it's time to up the stakes. Russian roulette. Post a video of 3 trigger pulls and you'll have proved it to all of us. Use a big caliber though so if chance catches you there's no vegetable existence in your future.

I've been meaning to start a russian roulette thread for a while now. Maybe tomorrow.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: Cups]
#15613326 - 01/03/12 11:20 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

man, giza. what's wrong with you? you're really starting to be quite the bully. just because you can i presume. because of something YOU think YOU need to prove to the world that YOU don't cower to others.

take a breather man.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: pachoo]
#15615390 - 01/04/12 01:18 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

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Cups said:
Quote:

LittleDipster said:
Seriously get your ass FUCKING KICKED man. its not hard to actually do if you aren't full of fear like you say. like go up into a ghetto ass neighborhood and get jumped by a bunch of niggers. you might die.

or are you afraid?

Giza-

LD has raised a good point here.

Going out and doing the chest puffing thing is a good start I suppose, but it's time to up the stakes. Russian roulette. Post a video of 3 trigger pulls and you'll have proved it to all of us. Use a big caliber though so if chance catches you there's no vegetable existence in your future.

I've been meaning to start a russian roulette thread for a while now. Maybe tomorrow.

I would, but because you told me to, I will not, I lead, I don't follow.

And I just moved to city, so I can do my practice all day. Don't complain to me when your on your death bed, wishing you did things you didn't do, and I guaruntee you this will be one of those things you wish you did.

It's about learning what you wish you could do if you were on your death bed and doing it now.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]
#15615453 - 01/04/12 01:33 PM (4 months, 23 days ago)

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sonar said:
What does real life trolling accomplish except for a smug, illusory, fleeting feeling of superiority?

Reach out to your fellow man and avoid distancing yourself, what if you smiled and said hello to strangers? I think you would be more happier that way

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#15615509 - 01/04/12 01:47 PM (4 months, 22 days ago)

See I'm not trolling real life, I'm serious when I go out, and you know nothing of it until you try it for yourself.
I reach out, I reach out with my thoughts and feelings, and obviously you know how to do that. When I'm in the mood I stand on Prince street, and wave and smile and mock sing to everyone that's rolling by, that's if I'm in the mood.

I'm not always looking for a fight, my mood swings apparently... and quite quickly. I am very fair.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]
#15615623 - 01/04/12 02:16 PM (4 months, 22 days ago)

Giza why?

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: xFrockx]
#15620807 - 01/05/12 02:34 PM (4 months, 21 days ago)

because he's a bully.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: blingbling]
#15620832 - 01/05/12 02:39 PM (4 months, 21 days ago)

And a man of mystery that lurks like a shadow on some of the most dangerous streets of the world. What a chap! :cheers:

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: MushroomTrip]
#15621088 - 01/05/12 03:39 PM (4 months, 21 days ago)

I think this guy should seek counseling, this seems like self-destructive behavior. I'm sure there's some statistics regarding gang violence that you can find on the web without having to actually experience it. Not to mention the concern of him trying to temp others to play roulette with their lives.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: Mafeki]
#15621711 - 01/05/12 05:42 PM (4 months, 21 days ago)

I wouldn't be too worried, I think we all know Giza is just a delusional little boy with some kind of personality disorder who posts from his mothers house. It is actually rather sad when you think about it.

The way he keeps posting about doing dangerous things is just a fabrication which I am not sure if he believes or not. The whole charade is just an obvious cry for attention though.

Amazingly enough I do agree with Giza, this really is a thread showcasing some interesting pyschology.

As a youth I spent many years homeless, it was not a pleasant experience and not something people should pretend to be doing on the internet as an 'experiment'. If Giza knew anything about having to sleep outside and starve he would not post bullshit like he does. I honestly do not think he would last a week as a homeless person, much less a homeless youth.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: Jwlst]
#15626023 - 01/06/12 02:45 PM (4 months, 20 days ago)

There are people who are homeless via major life changes and those who choose to live in a bedouin, berber or nomadic lifestyle and although they do not adhere to this society, they do adhere to another one.. as terrible as homelessness is. Its a severe form of anti-social characteristics that derive the term "severe personality disorder" - The myth of diogenes of sinope and alexander the great is a good metaphor to explain the unhousedness of the human mind and disturbances of "groupishness".

I think Giza is on to something here and all your frustrations and displays of your limits of human resources are what I would expect to see in demand characteristics; when people try to figure out what it is he's saying or putting out there. Its not about scaring the shit outta people it's about conquering something personal; and for Giza this has been a revelation; my Rx is moderation. It's good to be assertive, but don't push people away while doing it.

:peace:

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: hoodbran]
#15628666 - 01/07/12 01:45 AM (4 months, 20 days ago)

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hoodbran said:
There are people who are homeless via major life changes and those who choose to live in a bedouin, berber or nomadic lifestyle and although they do not adhere to this society, they do adhere to another one.. as terrible as homelessness is. Its a severe form of anti-social characteristics that derive the term "severe personality disorder" - The myth of diogenes of sinope and alexander the great is a good metaphor to explain the unhousedness of the human mind and disturbances of "groupishness".

I think Giza is on to something here and all your frustrations and displays of your limits of human resources are what I would expect to see in demand characteristics; when people try to figure out what it is he's saying or putting out there. Its not about scaring the shit outta people it's about conquering something personal; and for Giza this has been a revelation; my Rx is moderation. It's good to be assertive, but don't push people away while doing it.

I just saw Apocalypto yesterday, yes I know it's directed by Mel Gibson...but...

There were nice, spiritual Mayans and then there were antisocial, sociopathic Mayans. What camp would you rather be in?

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: sonar]
#15629044 - 01/07/12 07:05 AM (4 months, 20 days ago)

Sympathy can be one hell of a hindrance by which you betray yourself time and again. Befriend the devil.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: sonar]
#15629060 - 01/07/12 07:12 AM (4 months, 20 days ago)

Antisocial is just a term used to describe people who are anti establishment and sociopathy is taking established rules the extreme in some disturbed enmeshment - it's like high apoptosis for human relationships; like cancer and antisocial pd would be the Parkinson's of personality disorder; low apoptosis.

Still, I'd rather observe

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]

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#15630065 - 01/07/12 12:18 PM (4 months, 20 days ago)

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giza said:

This challenge is meant to defeat your fears of the physical world, if you don't have the balls for it, then don't do it and keep cowering behind your computer screen, stay small huni.

It sounds more like you are trying to overcome a fear of making eye contact with your fellow man?

This suggests a deeper insecurity on your part.

A lot of the people who look away maybe felt fear because you were staring, and they cowered.

A lot of them may have caught your gaze and got the distinct feeling something was wrong with you... perhaps you are angry, but whatever it is... not my prob.

Then the few that stare back at you.. most are probably just wondering why you are staring, the others know you are trying to big yourself up and accept the challenge.

But you prove nothing.. other than that you have a negative view of your peers, and get your kicks by acting in an aggressive way.. up until the point you could actually cause confrontation.

This is not fearlessness, this is arrogant, egotistical mind-masturbation.

If you want to be fearless try this instead:

Walk the streets as you mention, keep you head up and wait for another to make eye contact.
If you catch their gaze, smile and acknowledge them as a equal.
If they smile back, slow down and try to engage them in conversation.

Or are you afraid to find out you are no better than anyone else?

Dont get me wrong dude, I often stare people out.. usually when I am pissed about something. But real courage is being able to overcome all your insecurities and simply relate to people without being aggressive.

Try it.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]
#15782954 - 02/09/12 08:44 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

did giza died?

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: yeah]
#15783528 - 02/09/12 11:15 AM (3 months, 18 days ago)

I know what you are on about Giza and by accepting this challenge there is much to be learned , experienced and enhanced , this is no joke

Even gang members wont fuck with you if you are not scared at the end of the day, they operate and draw their powers from a larger group or leader, this being said many of them are just followers and will recognize you as a leader, energy speaks much louder then colours.

But these days i would rather not scare people off that's easy bringing them closer that's a bit more tricky specially when they coward to your very appearance upon first glance.

Still yet its not about scaring people off its got to do with conquering yourself and pushing boundaries

As a child i was full of such experiences , didn't have much money so would go out make the most of such situations , like going to the local shopping center and taunting random people and such,although from a place of humor , the staring is not the key point though the lack of fear is , dancing with life it can throw you the most absurd situations and experiences that you could never plan.

threes more but i seriously just cannot be fucked typing anymore

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: Withinity]

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#15783842 - 02/09/12 12:37 PM (3 months, 18 days ago)

I know when I'm on my death bed, I will be thinking; "Damn, I wish I had gone and gotten beaten to death by a group of niggers all those years ago when Giza recommended it to me.".

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: Grapefruit]

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#15784808 - 02/09/12 04:18 PM (3 months, 17 days ago)

I think a certain someone is on vacation.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: Jwlst]
#15786974 - 02/10/12 01:46 AM (3 months, 17 days ago)

Wow, your instructions are downright dangerous. If you stare at the wrong person in a threatening manner it very well could be your last stare. You have no idea what is going on in their head, and it may be enough to shoot you for disrespect.

I agree with observing people, but not in a threatening way, or if you want to act offputtish do it in an environment that is safe like the mall in a good part of town, or on campus, where people are more likely to not care enough to try to harm you, and have more reason to leave you alone.

All your advice is will create is negative attention, and more likely more of it so from the last people you want to think that you mean them harm. I don't see what the point is unless to see how many people challenge you in some way or look away from your glares.

Why not go around wearing different outfits, and appearing like different stereotypes and see the difference of treatment by people in the same are just by your clothes. I do this at the local campus, and notice a significant difference in the vibe and openess depending on how I am dressed, but act the same.

Example, I wear my hair slicked back, nice jeans, button up longsleeve shirt that is white weared with a tie that is loose and not business like, but fashion, and a long black wool coat that reminds me of a stock broker, and nice pair of expensive Jordan sneakers.

I find I get treated like I am more important or worthwhile. Lots of smiles, and a lot of looks from females. People seem to show respect, and treat me like I am important or something. I get a lot better service in stores, and at restaurants too.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: dkmonk]
#15790835 - 02/10/12 11:04 PM (3 months, 16 days ago)

This is ridiculous

its not worth typing all the reasons why

but since Giza is so fearless then up the stakes, humans are easy targets because you know what they are capable of, so if your truely fearless do this

go find a full grown silver-back gorilla and stare him down

then you will see just how fearless you actually are

also, Giza says he is a leader not a follower. Sorry dude but nobody is following your absured ego-driven ideas, so you are no leader at all

simply not following, does not make you a leader

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#15796257 - 02/12/12 04:08 AM (3 months, 15 days ago)

so is giza dead or what?

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#15797012 - 02/12/12 09:59 AM (3 months, 15 days ago)

We can only hope.

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#15811990 - 02/15/12 02:15 AM (3 months, 12 days ago)

To all of you psychology masters out there,

Confidently stare down an attractive girl with the expression screaming "I want to fuck you" and see how far you go :-P

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: sonar]

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#15812205 - 02/15/12 05:16 AM (3 months, 12 days ago)

It worked on my mother and sisters. :shrug:

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: sonar]
#15812382 - 02/15/12 06:52 AM (3 months, 12 days ago)

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To all of you psychology masters out there,

Confidently stare down an attractive girl with the expression screaming "I want to fuck you" and see how far you go :-P

The results will vary in relation to the variable of how attractive one is. :wink:

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: Icelander]
#15821791 - 02/16/12 11:59 PM (3 months, 10 days ago)

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It worked on my mother and sisters.

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: Samurai Drifter]
#15821919 - 02/17/12 12:51 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

Giza got served

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: blingbling]
#15822372 - 02/17/12 05:54 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

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blingbling said:
so is giza dead or what?

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#15822821 - 02/17/12 09:33 AM (3 months, 10 days ago)

Ya he got shot by a greal gangster holding up those gang signs

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: Cactilove]
#15928998 - 03/10/12 10:05 AM (2 months, 19 days ago)

Edited by giza (03/10/12 10:27 AM)

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]
#15929046 - 03/10/12 10:23 AM (2 months, 19 days ago)

On an added note, don't be such a pussy, Lions aren't even primates. Go stare down a gorilla. Or are you scared? Chicken? Buckaw? Buckaw?

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: giza]
#15941618 - 03/13/12 09:49 AM (2 months, 16 days ago)

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The fear others have. There is no such thing as death, therefore no such thing as death anxiety, only fear of starting over.

How Charles Manson-like! Follow Charlie, do you? No? Practically the same rhetoric!

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Re: To you Psychology Masters, Challenge here. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#15963880 - 03/18/12 03:01 PM (2 months, 10 days ago)

Okay when I get around one.. WILL DO! and I know nothing about what charles follows.

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