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 NJ man who overdosed at party to get $4M 
#15562810 - 12/23/11 06:00 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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NJ man who overdosed at party to get $4M
The Trentonian
Published: Friday, December 23, 2011
SADDLE RIVER (AP) — A man who overdosed on stolen drugs he ingested at a party in 2007 has settled his lawsuit with a pharmacy, several guests, the party's host and the host's mother for $4.1 million.
Scott Simon, then 17, said he took Xanax that was given to him by a former employee of a Ridgewood drug store and suffered permanent nerve damage as a result.
Simon's attorney John Schepisi told The Record of Bergen County that one party guest was a former pharmacy employee who stole Xanax from the drugstore and gave it to Simon. Simon took the drugs at the party and fell into a coma.
But instead of calling for help immediately, other guests waited for a while before driving him to the hospital, his lawyer said.
Simon suffered permanent nerve damage that impaired his ability to walk and talk, Schepisi said.
"He stays at home now, trying to recuperate," Schepisi said. "He can't walk without help. He has been declared incompetent."
If Simon had been taken to a hospital right away, the injuries likely wouldn't have been permanent, the lawyer said.
Simon sued the pharmacy for not taking proper precautions to avoid the theft of drugs. He also sued several guests, the party's host and the host's parents, who were away for the weekend.
All of them will contribute toward the settlement except the host's father, who wasn't living at the home at the time.
Silvana Raso, another attorney representing Simon, said her client shares responsibility for taking the drugs. But she said the case should serve as a cautionary tale for parents whose children host parties at their homes.
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Re: NJ man who overdosed at party to get $4M [Re: Odd_Nonposter]
#15562820 - 12/23/11 06:05 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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This is like the guy who breaks into a person's house, cuts himself on the glass that he broke, then sues the homeowners.
Completely fucked up.
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Re: NJ man who overdosed at party to get $4M [Re: Beefy1]
#15562888 - 12/23/11 06:25 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Isn't there a law that says that if you break the law, you can't file a lawsuit against the victim?
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Re: NJ man who overdosed at party to get $4M [Re: Beefy1]
#15563359 - 12/23/11 08:03 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Beefy1 said:
This is like the guy who breaks into a person's house, cuts himself on the glass that he broke, then sues the homeowners.
Completely fucked up.
 
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Re: NJ man who overdosed at party to get $4M [Re: gref]
#15563383 - 12/23/11 08:07 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Wow. America, fuck yeah.
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Re: NJ man who overdosed at party to get $4M [Re: pwnasaurus]
#15563454 - 12/23/11 08:18 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Who is inviting me over this weekend for a party?
I needs ta gets paid!
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Re: NJ man who overdosed at party to get $4M [Re: pwnasaurus]
#15563651 - 12/23/11 08:47 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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pwnasaurus said:
Wow. America, fuck yeah.
Lawyers have definitely done their share to fuck over America. You know I really thought i was going to find examples of frivolous lawsuits in Canada and make you eat your words. But you learn something new everyday. I discovered that Canada as well as almost all other countries have a "looser pays" system.
Even the ancient Greeks had a looser pays systemQuote:
It is in democratic Athens that the sycophant is born: a man on the make who brings a trumped-up court case; someone who thinks he’ll be able to score off the very presence of a justice system. Sycophantai were the fifth-century legal equivalent of ambulance-chasers; citizens who brought cases on flimsy charges so they the could be paid for attending court, and might possibly even net damages. And so steep fines have been introduced – if you don’t succeed in getting any more than one-fifth of the votes, you have to pay the state back.
No doubt the man in this story would have thought twice about that lawsuit if he lived in Canada. The downside of the looser pays system is that folks with legitimate issues are discouraged. That being said, the asshole in this story does not deserve one fucking penny of that money.
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Re: NJ man who overdosed at party to get $4M [Re: limestoneman]
#15563766 - 12/23/11 09:06 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Beefy1 said:
This is like the guy who breaks into a person's house, cuts himself on the glass that he broke, then sues the homeowners.
Completely fucked up.
It isn't like that at all, he didn't do anything wrong.
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limestoneman said:
Isn't there a law that says that if you break the law, you can't file a lawsuit against the victim?
He didn't really break any law he just ate some pills someone gave him at a party then fell into a coma and people didn't help him when he clearly needed it.
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Re: NJ man who overdosed at party to get $4M [Re: muistrue]
#15563844 - 12/23/11 09:19 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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FractalDust said:
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Beefy1 said:
This is like the guy who breaks into a person's house, cuts himself on the glass that he broke, then sues the homeowners.
Completely fucked up.
It isn't like that at all, he didn't do anything wrong.
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limestoneman said:
Isn't there a law that says that if you break the law, you can't file a lawsuit against the victim?
He didn't really break any law he just ate some pills someone gave him at a party then fell into a coma and people didn't help him when he clearly needed it.
Let's all eat a bunch of random pills being handed out at the next party.
Who's responsible for what this retard eats?
Now if the guy who stole them lied to the kid and told him they were .5mg when they were actually 2mg, it would be partially the dealer's fault, but I still don't get how you can sue for it.
And sue the pharmacy? must they hand out a fact sheet to every person who steals drugs from them?
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Re: NJ man who overdosed at party to get $4M [Re: muistrue]
#15563862 - 12/23/11 09:22 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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FractalDust said:
He didn't really break any law he just ate some pills someone gave him at a party then fell into a coma and people didn't help him when he clearly needed it.
He DID break a law, Xanax is a schedule IV controlled substance and is illegal to take without a prescription.
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Re: NJ man who overdosed at party to get $4M [Re: Beefy1]
#15563934 - 12/23/11 09:38 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I was just pointing out that your analogy sucked. I agree he shouldn't of eaten prescription pills handed to him at a party.
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Re: NJ man who overdosed at party to get $4M [Re: Odd_Nonposter]
#15563950 - 12/23/11 09:42 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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well aint that some shit.. big round of "shit sux" for everyone.. lol.. fuckin have to be careful at parties for rookies that cant hang.. oh wait.. its always been like that..
still some shit though
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Re: NJ man who overdosed at party to get $4M [Re: evildee125]
#15566953 - 12/24/11 02:47 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Well, only caveat here is he was 17. And I imagine the person who gave him the drugs was over 18.
I bet some of you might be changing your tune a little if this were a 16 year old girl at a party where most the guests were 21+ and someone had shot her up with heroine instead of handing her pills.
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Re: NJ man who overdosed at party to get $4M [Re: Coolwhip]
#15567169 - 12/24/11 03:37 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Coolwhip said:
Well, only caveat here is he was 17. And I imagine the person who gave him the drugs was over 18.
I bet some of you might be changing your tune a little if this were a 16 year old girl at a party where most the guests were 21+ and someone had shot her up with heroine instead of handing her pills.
Only if they held her down and forcibly injected her.
You're responsible for what goes into your body. Nobody forces you to do drugs. If you can't handle the peer pressure, too fucking bad.
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Re: NJ man who overdosed at party to get $4M [Re: Beefy1]
#15567199 - 12/24/11 03:45 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Beefy1 said:
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FractalDust said:
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Beefy1 said:
This is like the guy who breaks into a person's house, cuts himself on the glass that he broke, then sues the homeowners.
Completely fucked up.
It isn't like that at all, he didn't do anything wrong.
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limestoneman said:
Isn't there a law that says that if you break the law, you can't file a lawsuit against the victim?
He didn't really break any law he just ate some pills someone gave him at a party then fell into a coma and people didn't help him when he clearly needed it.
Let's all eat a bunch of random pills being handed out at the next party.
Who's responsible for what this retard eats?
Now if the guy who stole them lied to the kid and told him they were .5mg when they were actually 2mg, it would be partially the dealer's fault, but I still don't get how you can sue for it.
And sue the pharmacy? must they hand out a fact sheet to every person who steals drugs from them?
this - it's the moron's own fucking fault. I for one, as damn near all of you do on here, research the fuck out of what I plan on consuming BEFORE I CONSUME IT.
welcome to the New Jersey mindset - All of my mistakes are someone else's fault - I'm PERFECT, and fuck everyone else who isn't me. Easily the most self centered and egotistical state in this country. this state is so fucked, cannot wait to get out.
graff unrelated.
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Re: NJ man who overdosed at party to get $4M [Re: Beefy1]
#15567457 - 12/24/11 04:51 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Generally a 16 year old isn't mature enough to make those decisions. This is why in most states it is illegal to have consenual sex with a 16yo, illegal to give a minor alcohol, and additional charges can be applied when an adult gives illegal drugs to a minor.
Not only does a minor generally not possess the maturity to make said decisions, the minor lacks the KNOWLEDGE to properly use said drugs. Which is why he ended up ODing. When you decide to GIVE drugs to other people, you are taking on an extra degree of responsibility. This is ESPECIALLY true when giving drugs to a minor.
If you don't want to be responsible for that person, let them find their own drugs.
If a gunshop were to sell handguns to people without performing a background check and meeting all legal requirements, and those guns were used to commit a crime, then they would be share some degree of responsibility.
I see no reason why giving drugs to a minor should be any different, especially when the minor wasn't seeking the drugs.
Or do you think we should also repeal entrapment laws? The police should be able to arrest someone for doing something illegal, even if the police enticed them into doing it???
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Re: NJ man who overdosed at party to get $4M [Re: Odd_Nonposter]
#15569630 - 12/25/11 06:58 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Simon sued the pharmacy for not taking proper precautions to avoid the theft of drugs. He also sued several guests, the party's host and the host's parents, who were away for the weekend.
And yet, he didn't sue himself for being a dumb fuck and taking an unknown substance. I didn't read anything about him being forced to take the drugs.
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Re: NJ man who overdosed at party to get $4M [Re: Seuss]
#15586372 - 12/29/11 11:51 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Article: Huffington Post
Link: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/1...6pLid%3D123356
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ANCHORAGE, Alaska — A 14-year-old Alaska girl was in critical condition days after a 26-year-old man injected her with heroin at his Anchorage home, authorities said Tuesday.
Sean Warner is charged with a drug-related felony and other counts. Court documents say he tried to revive the girl himself and didn't immediately call police.
"Her condition is dire," Assistant District Attorney Regan Williams said Tuesday, adding the girl was on an artificial respirator. "The real sadness is that there's not that much brain activity."
The girl was taken to an Anchorage hospital Friday with a drug overdose, police said. Charging documents say the girl, identified only as J.D., was found to have heroin, cocaine and methamphetamine in her system. Medics told authorities she had sustained damage to her brain and heart.
Charging documents say the type of heroin used is known on the street at "China White."
Police said the drug tends to be more potent than the more common tar heroin. It is sold in powder form and can be cut with varying ingredients in varying amounts, said Sgt. Kathy Lacey, who heads the Anchorage Police Department's vice unit.
"The problem is you don't know what it's cut with," Lacey said. "You have no idea what you're getting."
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She was a polydrug user, no one was forcing her to take drugs. Do you feel the same way?
Now I am not saying that case was fair, or he deserved all that money, or whatever. All I am saying is people can't go around handing drugs out to minors without taking any responsibility for the consequences.
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#15586494 - 12/29/11 12:30 PM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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I wonder if I could sue somebody after I got sick from eating out of their trash can.
When I was 16 I knew everything there was to know about both the history and physiological effects of any drug I used or planned too, in addition to the cocktail effects. I knew better then to eat strange pills back in kindergarten, because my parents warned me that the wrong drugs could kill me.
Freedom comes at a price, and that price is personal responsibility. Americans have been gladly trading personal responsibility for tyranny under the guise of gaining a false sense of security ever since the first act of prohibition.
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Re: NJ man who overdosed at party to get $4M [Re: sk8ordude]
#15590869 - 12/30/11 08:50 AM (1 year, 4 months ago) |
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Maybe if the homeowners prepared the meal from food they had picked out of the trash, told you it was safe, and then fed it to you with a spoon.
Yeah, you would probably be able to sue them then.
I'm glad you were a mature 16 year old. But not everyone is that mature at 16, which is why we have the laws we have. If you want to change the age of majority from 18, pursue that, but until then those are the law's we have. And those laws specify that people in the age of majority have to use special care, and take on greater responsibility, when dealing with minors.
But you are right, it is up to the people in the age of majority to act responsibly. The person who was handing out drugs to minors without supervising their use needs to take responsibility for the consequences of his actions.
Again, I imagine you would all be singing a different tune if say the homeowners were 21+ and had obtained alcohol and was making alcoholic drinks for 17 year olds, and then one of those teens died because of intoxication. So it isn't OK for adults to give alcohol to minors, but it is OK for adults to give illegal drugs to minors?
Edited by Coolwhip (12/30/11 08:54 AM)
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