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 Re: "show me the mycelium" [Re: olive]
#15710635 - 01/24/12 07:09 AM (4 months, 3 days ago) |
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Awesome stuff Olive
What are the yellow drops of liquid that form? I've seen them on one I my seeds and I thought it was a yellow slime mold contam? Yet is looks almost commonplace on those grains.... any idea what that yellow ball of liquid is?
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Re: "show me the mycelium" [Re: Vort]
#15713040 - 01/24/12 05:55 PM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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I don't know what its called Vort
I have heard it being referred to as mycellium piss, but I'm sure it has a proper name.
Have been told that it is because the myc isn't happy etc........
Don't know if it's endemic with subaeruginosa or not.
I sure would like to know what it is exactly and what's it called.
A much more experienced cultivator may know?
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Re: "show me the mycelium" [Re: olive]
#15713054 - 01/24/12 06:00 PM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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I believe the yellow liquid may be byproducts of the mycelial metabolism.
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Re: "show me the mycelium" [Re: suchen]
#15713070 - 01/24/12 06:04 PM (4 months, 2 days ago) |
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i may as well join in the fun!
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Re: "show me the mycelium" [Re: Ryath]
#15719263 - 01/25/12 11:49 PM (4 months, 1 day ago) |
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A new cyanofibrillosa jar, ready to be sprayed around the area 
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Re: "show me the mycelium" [Re: olive]
#15719809 - 01/26/12 06:32 AM (4 months, 1 day ago) |
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Quote:
olive said:
I don't know what its called Vort
I have heard it being referred to as mycellium piss, but I'm sure it has a proper name.
Have been told that it is because the myc isn't happy etc........
Don't know if it's endemic with subaeruginosa or not.
I sure would like to know what it is exactly and what's it called.
A much more experienced cultivator may know?
I think they're just referred to as metabolites (the yellow 'piss'). RR hates it being referred to as 'piss'. lulz
Anonjon says (and I paraphrase) that it's common with all mycelium, especially in response to bacterial infection, cramped spaces and neglect, and low oxygen levels. It can also eat right through aluminum. It's good shit.
It can be used to treat contams, but it's not a surefire method.
People don't really fully understand what it is or does, but that could be said for most things, right?
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Re: "show me the mycelium" [Re: singult]
#15724535 - 01/27/12 09:51 AM (4 months, 2 hours ago) |
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just cubensis mycellium no big deal but looks neat. 
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Re: "show me the mycelium" [Re: MESCALATO]
#15800331 - 02/12/12 08:56 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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I'll try to keep this going!
I hope, and I'm confident, that I've got some rapidly growing Ovoid myc here using the egg carton technique. The original source material was colonized wood I harvested last spring and have been cultivating with woodchips in an outdoor garden. I placed two chips from outside on the egg carton and kept it moist inside a zip lock. It took a week or so before anything took hold, then another week for some of those "feelers" to start exploring.
After I added a small amount of mono-sodium phosphate and ammonium nitrate to the water (less than 1% solutions), growth absolutely exploded. I don't think the carton has enough of the phosphate or nitrogen nutrients alone.
This is what the experiment looks like after three weeks:
 
This is two days of growth:
 
Kinda hard to see, but I accidentally touched the corner and the damaged myc bruised blue:
Since these photos were taken, I have added wood shavings and they are being swarmed with super fuzzy myc. I'll take photos next time.
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Re: "show me the mycelium" [Re: koods]
#15801020 - 02/12/12 10:54 PM (3 months, 14 days ago) |
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That myc looks very healthy!
The mycelium grows even better, if the Ammonium is bound to an organic acid.
Ammonium tartrate, for example, where the Ammonium is bound to tartaric acid.
Other very useful nutrients are:
- Magnesium Sulfate (300 mg / 1 L )
- Potassium dihydrogen phosphate (300 mg / 1 L )
- Thiamine (Vitamin B1, 10 mg / 1 L )
Edited by Sporulator (02/13/12 12:15 AM)
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Re: "show me the mycelium" [Re: Sporulator]
#15803168 - 02/13/12 01:00 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Added nutrients and such are a good thing when used properly, but only make a big difference when they can be used by the organism. Finding nutrients that are made from or bonded with organics work much better than their chemical counterparts. Just my 2 cents. Awesome pics by the way. Not sure what that slime is, but I would remove it.
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Re: "show me the mycelium" [Re: bfogg8706]
#15803222 - 02/13/12 01:11 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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I always thought that yellow liqiud was just condensation that had taken on the yellow colour from the wood......  maybe im wrong tho.
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Re: "show me the mycelium" [Re: m-d-m-a]
#15803306 - 02/13/12 01:26 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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NICE!
good stuff everyone!
 
cyanescens or cyanofibrillosa...
i lost track in a transfer.
i guess it will, hopefully be a surprise.
peace and love
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Quote:
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Ovoid mycelium at work... 
   
WOW !! love it
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Quote:
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NICE!
good stuff everyone!
cyanescens or cyanofibrillosa...
i lost track in a transfer.
i guess it will, hopefully be a surprise.
peace and love
bloodworm
Looks like the cyanofibrillosa. The fib mycelium stays fluffy like that, and rarely displays rhizomorphic growth. Could be cyan, but I'm sticking with the cyanofib. Growth looks identical to the tubs I did last year.
Sometimes water can take on a slight yellow color from the wood, but most of the time it's metabolites. Awesome pics everyone.
Some cyanofibrillosa growing on big leaf maple: 
P. cyanescens mycelium from spraying LC:   
More ovoid mycelium:   
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Re: "show me the mycelium" [Re: bfogg8706]
#15804624 - 02/13/12 05:38 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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Quote:
bfogg8706 said:
Added nutrients and such are a good thing when used properly, but only make a big difference when they can be used by the organism. Finding nutrients that are made from or bonded with organics work much better than their chemical counterparts. Just my 2 cents. Awesome pics by the way. Not sure what that slime is, but I would remove it.
The slime is actually a little piece of gelatinized starch. I was curious to see if the myc would be interested. The myc did grow into the area underneath, but I can't really tell if it being consumed because the size of the piece swells and shrinks too much with humidity.
As for the nutrients, I'm sure natural sources probably contain micro-nutrients that can help growth. I don't know whether you are using "organic" in the technical sense or the colloquial sense, but I think using inorganic salts to supply PO4, NH4, NO3, SO4 and metal ions makes them immediately available to the organism. Getting these nutrients from organic molecules requires metabolic activity, putrefaction or even symbiotic assistance from other microorganisms.
It seems like the phosphate was the real kick the myc needed in my case.
I've now added organic material (wood and seed husks) to the myc, so I'm not supplementing with nutrients anymore.
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Re: "show me the mycelium" [Re: koods]
#15804769 - 02/13/12 06:04 PM (3 months, 13 days ago) |
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I suspect the yellow drops contain riboflavin, which turns solutions bright yellow, even in small amounts and especially when the environment is slightly acidic (as it should be for most fungal growth)
Edited by koods (02/13/12 06:11 PM)
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Re: "show me the mycelium" [Re: koods]
#15859749 - 02/24/12 09:10 PM (3 months, 2 days ago) |
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Myc keeps growing. Started with piece of wood from an ovoid find last spring. Threw that into a small outside bed with lots of woodchips, sawdust and creek sand. In January, took some colonized woodchips from the bed and got the myc up and running on egg carton.
On Feb 12, I took this picture,
then added wood shavings, seed husks and straw covering the top and sides of the carton. You can see today a lot of growth into and around the new material, especially on the sides:
The ovoid garden outside is about 3x3 ft. It's a mix of hardwoods, mostly maple with some oak, sycamore and pear (the shitty ones that snap if you look at them wrong):
Up close, this small area has the top layer of chips removed so I could see what the myc has been up to over the winter:
So, any tips to help me maximize my chances at getting some pinning this spring? More chips? I'm thinking a few grass seeds in there to get a few blades wouldn't hurt? Maybe?
Also, I went down to the creek to see if the very warm winter could have started the season off. Saw nothing popping. I accidentally kicked up this debris and think this may be some wild ovoid myc, mainly because it's a piece from a known hot spot:
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Re: "show me the mycelium" [Re: koods]
#15860148 - 02/24/12 11:06 PM (3 months, 2 days ago) |
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nice mycelium running koods
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